G
Guest
I am currently running XP Pro and have an upgrade to Vista Pro. What are the
advantages of upgrading to Vista over staying with XP Pro?
advantages of upgrading to Vista over staying with XP Pro?
J
Justin
Alan said:
Collaborated from this NG (mostly Paul Smith):
1) New fonts, much easier on the eyes.
2) Restore previous versions of files (volume shadow copies).
3) Far better security, user rights being used, address space randomization
on boot etc.
4) UI rendered through DirectX (no tearing windows anymore when you drag em
around!)
5) Search, being able to save search results as virtual folders, network
searching.
6) Offline files that take seconds to sync, and does it without annoying
you.
7) Windows Mail has these groups all set to go.
8) Diagnostics, loads of them can keep you busy for ages.
9) IPv6 and IPv6 over IPv4, brand new network stack, makes communicating
behind a NAT easier.
10) New faster audio stack.
11) New driver model, puts more drivers into user mode so they don't bring
down the system if they crash.
12) Ad Hoc networking support, in Meeting Space and available to 3rd
parties.
13) Photo Gallery, plus image tagging that isn't in a separate database but
stored in the files themselves so you don't need to retag them on different
machines.
14) Networking is easy to set up now.
15) Parental Controls, great for locking down what your parents (or
children) can break on their systems and for seeing what they've been up to.
16) Multiple clocks.
17) Sidebar.
18) Superfetch pages applications into memory so they start up instantly,
ReadyBoost and ReadyDrive too.
19) Speech recognition now built in.
20) Tablet features now built in, you can even use a regular drawing tablet
to unlock the hand writing recognition and all that.
21) Instant search feature. Find files in a flash.
22) WinPE 2.0 (based on Vista) allows hot plug n' play of USB devices (among
other improvements over previous versions of PE)
23) Windows Easy Transfer
24) New media tools like DVD maker, etc.
25) Parental controls.
Before upgrading, you need to make sure you have proper drivers for ALL your
hardware. Unless you plan on buying a new machine. Either way, if you need
help with any of that, just holler!
J
Jdr
5) Search, being able to save search results as virtual folders, network
One thing should be cleared here. The "Search" in Vista so far is inferior
to www.google.com or to every other simple search.
Even on www.google.com using Vista give less searching results than in Win
XP does.
==================
Results - Windows XP
Results 1 - 10 of about 53,400,000 for upgrade to Vista. (0.11 seconds)
http://tinyurl.com/3c35wy
Results - Vista Ultimate:
Results 1 - 10 of about 38,700,000 for upgrade to Vista. (0.06 seconds)
http://tinyurl.com/3chpdz
=================
Desktop results are even worse to my surprise as I also
trusted Microsoft unreservedly, in this case.
Jdr
One thing should be cleared here. The "Search" in Vista so far is inferior
to www.google.com or to every other simple search.
Even on www.google.com using Vista give less searching results than in Win
XP does.
==================
Results - Windows XP
Results 1 - 10 of about 53,400,000 for upgrade to Vista. (0.11 seconds)
http://tinyurl.com/3c35wy
Results - Vista Ultimate:
Results 1 - 10 of about 38,700,000 for upgrade to Vista. (0.06 seconds)
http://tinyurl.com/3chpdz
=================
Desktop results are even worse to my surprise as I also
trusted Microsoft unreservedly, in this case.
Jdr
A
Alias
Justin said:Collaborated from this NG (mostly Paul Smith):
1) New fonts, much easier on the eyes.
2) Restore previous versions of files (volume shadow copies).
3) Far better security, user rights being used, address space
randomization on boot etc.
4) UI rendered through DirectX (no tearing windows anymore when you drag
em around!)
5) Search, being able to save search results as virtual folders, network
searching.
6) Offline files that take seconds to sync, and does it without annoying
you.
7) Windows Mail has these groups all set to go.
8) Diagnostics, loads of them can keep you busy for ages.
9) IPv6 and IPv6 over IPv4, brand new network stack, makes communicating
behind a NAT easier.
10) New faster audio stack.
11) New driver model, puts more drivers into user mode so they don't
bring down the system if they crash.
12) Ad Hoc networking support, in Meeting Space and available to 3rd
parties.
13) Photo Gallery, plus image tagging that isn't in a separate database
but stored in the files themselves so you don't need to retag them on
different machines.
14) Networking is easy to set up now.
15) Parental Controls, great for locking down what your parents (or
children) can break on their systems and for seeing what they've been up
to.
16) Multiple clocks.
LOL! What for?
What's the difference between point 15 and point 25?
Alias
J
Justin
Jdr said:
??? Can you expand on that with examples? Do you mean google desktop?
J
Justin
Alias said:
Off the top of my head....people who travel. Same reason people buy watches
that handle multiple time zones.
Nothing. 25 needs to be removed.
A
Alias
Justin said:
Some people don't need that because they can add and subtract in their
head and, if you double click on the XP clock, you get all the times
zones there are. Just curious, are you forced to have clock in the side
bar? For that matter, are you forced to have a side bar or can that be
disabled?
Fair enough.
Alias
J
Justin
I don't care if 99.99% of Vista users don't need it. It's a feature and
features were asked for. Whether or not some people do or do not need it is
in no way relevant to this topic. It's up to the OP to decide if it's
relevant to him.
When I showed our sales guys that they can have two+ clocks showing they
grinned. We have guys that travel the WORLD. Who wants to do that much
math in their head all the time? We have an app that I install on our XP
laptops for them to use. Vista relieves the need for that app.
Besides, Windows XP:
1. Double click clock.
2. Click time zones tab.
3. Drop menu down.
4. Search for needed time zone.
5. Click apply.
Vista is much easier!
Nope. You can have whatever you want.
You can turn it off.
A
Alias
Justin said:
I do business with people all over the world and call them on the phone.
It takes me less than 20 seconds to figure out what time it is where I
am calling and I can do it without a computer, just by looking at my watch.
Wonderful. Now if you're wrong about WGA/N being loaded with Vista like
you were with XPSP2b, I may consider buying it.
Alias
J
john
Justin said:
how's this for an example?
J
Justin
Alias said:
1. 20 seconds is 19 seconds to long.
2. I seriously doubt you have all 26 time zones memorized and all the
regions they belong to. But if you claim to be that high speed then I guess
I'll have to believe you.
3. Your opinion of the feature does not negate the feature.
However, I wasn't wrong about SP2. You can't be wrong when asking a
question. Note the "?" at the end of the sentence
I believe SP2 contains WGA?
J
Justin
You'll have to do better then that. That video is complete BS.
March 12th my rear!
There's a reason they stretched the video AND cut off the right portion of
the menu. It's NOT RTM!
1. They had to stretch the menu because the ratio of the left to right side
areas of the menu would be a quick clue.
2. The power button is the wrong color.
3. The power button has the wrong graphic. The RTM graphic does not have a
line that breaks the circle.
The only thing that video proves is that the beta had bugs.
Whoopty Doo!
I just performed every task in that video and had no problems.
March 12th my rear!
There's a reason they stretched the video AND cut off the right portion of
the menu. It's NOT RTM!
1. They had to stretch the menu because the ratio of the left to right side
areas of the menu would be a quick clue.
2. The power button is the wrong color.
3. The power button has the wrong graphic. The RTM graphic does not have a
line that breaks the circle.
The only thing that video proves is that the beta had bugs.
Whoopty Doo!
I just performed every task in that video and had no problems.
C
Charlie Tame
At this time possibly none, so before you try it make sure you have your
original XP install media and key numbers or better still get a new hard
drive, install XP on it (With the original drive completely removed) and
then upgrade the new install to Vista.
Why go to this trouble? Well, some of your software may not work under
Vista, some of your hardware might need you to go hunting for drivers or
need to be replaced, or there might be something wrong with the present XP
install that just hasn't come to light yet but will do when making the
update.
Over cautious? Maybe but I have been caught in traps before and it's really
annoying when such things happen and for $100 could have been totally
avoided.
Do not rely on anything that tells you your hardware is "Compatible", it may
be so and still not work and you end up with an expensive desk ornament.
Please do not let this put you off but consider buying something like
"Acronis" and a new (Bigger) drive and "Clone" your XP drive first, then
completely remove it and work with the image. That way if Vista doesn't like
something or just doesn't work you buy time to locate and obtain anything
you need to try again. As you get settled with Vista the spare drive can be
re used for storage or better yet to keep onboing backups.
Charlie
original XP install media and key numbers or better still get a new hard
drive, install XP on it (With the original drive completely removed) and
then upgrade the new install to Vista.
Why go to this trouble? Well, some of your software may not work under
Vista, some of your hardware might need you to go hunting for drivers or
need to be replaced, or there might be something wrong with the present XP
install that just hasn't come to light yet but will do when making the
update.
Over cautious? Maybe but I have been caught in traps before and it's really
annoying when such things happen and for $100 could have been totally
avoided.
Do not rely on anything that tells you your hardware is "Compatible", it may
be so and still not work and you end up with an expensive desk ornament.
Please do not let this put you off but consider buying something like
"Acronis" and a new (Bigger) drive and "Clone" your XP drive first, then
completely remove it and work with the image. That way if Vista doesn't like
something or just doesn't work you buy time to locate and obtain anything
you need to try again. As you get settled with Vista the spare drive can be
re used for storage or better yet to keep onboing backups.
Charlie
P
philo
Here is what I noticed with Vista (as compared to Win2k or XP)
Vista's serach function (for searching the HD) was touted as being
superior.To paraphrase:
'As soon as you start to type...the search begins and what you are looking
for mey be found
after typing a few letters. '
I tried it and though it does work to some extent...it really only seraches
in the most
common places...such as "My Documents"...the places where most people would
look anyway.
I tried to find some system files by entering their complete name...and the
search came up with nothing...
so I had to perform an advanced serach to find them...So Vista actually
takes longer to find files that XP or Win2k
would catch on the first run!
A
Alias
Justin said:
"less than 20 seconds".
I don't need to know all of them, just the ones I do business with.
Gadgets are gimmicks and pretty much useless and they use up desktop
real estate.
However, I wasn't wrong about SP2. You can't be wrong when asking a
question. Note the "?" at the end of the sentence
I believe SP2 contains WGA?
Not my fault that English isn't your strong suit. You either believe it
or you don't. Now, had you phrased the question like this, "Does SP2
contain WGA?", you would have a point. Note that we are talking about
WGA/N, not WGA activex. You do know the difference, don't you?
Alias
M
MICHAEL
Great advice, Charlie.
-Michael
-Michael
Charlie Tame said:
J
Justin
You can extend to where Vista will look.
Where were these files? I'd like to see if I can reproduce this.
J
Justin
Alias said:
2 seconds is 1 second too long ;p
Ok? Again, your opinion of the feature does not negate the feature.
Again, your opinion of the feature does not negate the feature.
Hahaha, I wasn't asking again. I repeated what I said to go along with my
statement.
Not my fault that English isn't your strong suit. I guess it'll never
change with you. Too bad really. That was a decent conversation for a
while. You just can't refrain from the attacks.
P
philo
They were in system32...
give it a try and post back with your results
J
Justin
philo said:
Yes, by default Vista will not search that folder. For good reason. Why
search a folder the average user has no business messing with?
Click start - type index and make sure you launch Indexing Options. Then
click Modify. Then click Show All Locations.
Make sure you only add what you need. No sense in indexing more then you
need.