Windows Vista RTM pricing...

[Terje Alexander Barth]

Roger that... maybe that's why MS is doing the anti-piracy thing... they
might figure that Vista pricing will push folks to piracy... dunno.

I thought it was availability that attracted people to copyright infringement..

Looks like ULTIMATE is going to be expensive stuff.... should'nt have bought
that XBOX360 and instead saved up for VISTA it seems.

Considering how much money I will have to spend on Hardware Updates to be able to
run VISTA *properly* I suppose the VISTA Ultimate price will seem like pocket
change...

 

[deebs]

Can I purchase mail order from the USA?

I wonder if import duties and the like still weigh in less then the UK
retail price?

 

[Brian Wescombe]

Just in case anyone is interested, Vista Ultimate full install version
will
be priced at £325 in the UK with a release date of 2nd February 2007.

Mike

How much for Ultimate Upgrade? As most people will upgrade from XP, I doubt
the full Ultimate release will be popular

 

[deebs]

No disrespect to Vista but if upgrading means losing XP Pro ... well,
you know what I mean?

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Bill;
You are still quoting the prices a little to high for US prices.
Ultimate $399:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/editions/ultimate.mspx
And
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Win...6603/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-8518469-0788947?ie=UTF8

Home Premium $239
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/editions/home_premium.mspx
And
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Win...6603/ref=pd_bbs_5/102-8518469-0788947?ie=UTF8

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Price has little to do with piracy.
Thieves will steal because that is their nature.
Price is only the excuse the thieves use to justify their activities.
If the prices were lowered, the thieves would simply use another
excuse...and steal it just the same.

 

[Alias~-]

Price has little to do with piracy.

Only if you're rich.

Thieves will steal because that is their nature.

Stereotypical BS.

Price is only the excuse the thieves use to justify their activities.

Stereotypical BS.

If the prices were lowered, the thieves would simply use another
excuse...and steal it just the same.

Stereotypical BS.

Alias

 

[John Barnes]

And I will bet that when the product premiers at retail, the large computer
store will have great give-aways. With XP, stores like Best-Buy, CompUSA
etc. provided free software and hardware worth up to $150. Not junk either.
Preorder at your own risk.

 

[Will]

There are always ways around duty on imports
and it would be fair to say that there will be countries where the pricing
will be a lot cheaper than in the US or UK
I know in Australia Xp Pro retails for about $AUD 200 which is for example
much less than $US 200
And there will be financially disadvantaged countries out there in which
MSFT will be looking to really push their product and prices there will be
even lower.
And it's not that hard to obtain software through countries with cheaper
pricing And I for one wouldn't pay the full asking price in my country if I
can get a friend or contact in another country to send it to me by mail. for
a fraction of the price.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

You are probably correct.
And since local retailers will probably plan for it, you will probably get a
better deal as well as sooner than if it is ordered form a seller like
Amazon.com.

At the time of XP release, I got a free digital camera and scanner, both
still in use today.
There was also several items of free software, some of which I do not use.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

"Only if you're rich"
Define rich.
Where do you stand economically when compared to the world population?

"Stereotypical BS"
Seems to be your answer when reality conflicts with what you believe.

Most who steal Windows XP have no need since they can easily stay with their
current operating system.
If they can afford the computer, they can afford an operating system.
If Microsoft does not meet their needs, their are other options many of them
free.

There is no need for stealing.

 

[Alias~-]

"Only if you're rich"
Define rich.

Carey Frisch.

Where do you stand economically when compared to the world population?

Not relevant.

"Stereotypical BS"
Seems to be your answer when reality conflicts with what you believe.

No, that's what you are doing.

Most who steal Windows XP have no need since they can easily stay with their
current operating system.
If they can afford the computer, they can afford an operating system.

Used computers are cheaper than XP or 98 for that matter.

If Microsoft does not meet their needs, their are other options many of them
free.

None of which are acceptable. Apple is too expensive and Linux is too
complicated.

There is no need for stealing.

Then why does MS steal my time with the WGA/WPA crap? Why did MS steal
the browser market with its monopolizing ways?

Alias

 

[Robert Moir]

Amazon in USA has pricing out and is no where close to $600! I think
they have it wrong over in England!

No, we get ripped off for tech in the UK. All too often, regardless of the
exchange rate, imported tech from the US is priced here as if $1 = £1

 

[Alias~-]

No, we get ripped off for tech in the UK. All too often, regardless of the
exchange rate, imported tech from the US is priced here as if $1 = £1

Apple does the same thing with thinking that one euro equals one dollar.

Alias

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

So apparently you are unwilling or unable to define "rich", a word you used
to support your position.
That makes your position very weak if you can not even define how you use a
word.

"No, that's what you are doing."
Another answer from you that says nothing.

"No, that's what you are doing."
I call a thief a thief, what do you call a thief.

"Apple is too expensive and Linux is too complicated"
Linux is to complicated?
What difference does that make as long as time is not involved?
You complain here about Microsoft stealing your time so you must also
complain about the complicated Linux wasting your time in the appropriate
forum.
Also, hopefully you also complain in Apple forums about how they waste your
resources by being so expensive.
Time and money are very close so of course you are complaining
approximately equally about all 3 products wasting your resources in
appropriate forums.
Or perhaps cost of Apple and Linux complications are no more than an excuse
you are using not to use their products while you continue to use Microsoft
that also expends your resources.
It seems you should look beyond those three and find what is best for you.

"why does MS steal..."
They don't, if anything you chose to give it to Microsoft.
You are also free to choose any of the alternatives that use less of your
resources.

 

[Alias~-]

So apparently you are unwilling or unable to define "rich", a word you used
to support your position.
That makes your position very weak if you can not even define how you use a
word.

"No, that's what you are doing."
Another answer from you that says nothing.

"No, that's what you are doing."
I call a thief a thief, what do you call a thief.

"Apple is too expensive and Linux is too complicated"
Linux is to complicated?
What difference does that make as long as time is not involved?
You complain here about Microsoft stealing your time so you must also
complain about the complicated Linux wasting your time in the appropriate
forum.
Also, hopefully you also complain in Apple forums about how they waste your
resources by being so expensive.
Time and money are very close so of course you are complaining
approximately equally about all 3 products wasting your resources in
appropriate forums.
Or perhaps cost of Apple and Linux complications are no more than an excuse
you are using not to use their products while you continue to use Microsoft
that also expends your resources.
It seems you should look beyond those three and find what is best for you.

"why does MS steal..."
They don't, if anything you chose to give it to Microsoft.
You are also free to choose any of the alternatives that use less of your
resources.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Alias

 

[Robert Moir]

Apple does the same thing with thinking that one euro equals one
dollar.

Oh yes, it's not just one company. Actually it happens outside the computer
industry too.

 

[Lang Murphy]

Well, you could be right about availability leading to copyright
infringment. I would have thought it was more related to folks just not
wanting to pay the price for whatever it is they're infringing upon,
regardless of availability. One can download "Death Metal" songs from P2P
nets... doesn't mean that just because it's available, I'm gonna download
it. Not particularly interested in singing that sounds like a bass
vocalist's privates were just run over by a steamroller.

I haven't found a matrix that ID's the lower level capabilities of the
different flavors of Vista. I don't need domain level support on my home
PC's. And I know that XP Home was hobbled in such a fashion that, given the
opportunity, I chose XP Pro over Home. Do want multimedia, do want Complete
PC backup. Hope they're both in Home Premium.

Lang

 

[Terje Alexander Barth]

Well, you could be right about availability leading to copyright
infringment. I would have thought it was more related to folks just not
wanting to pay the price for whatever it is they're infringing upon,
regardless of availability. One can download "Death Metal" songs from P2P
nets... doesn't mean that just because it's available, I'm gonna download
it. Not particularly interested in singing that sounds like a bass
vocalist's privates were just run over by a steamroller.

I haven't found a matrix that ID's the lower level capabilities of the
different flavors of Vista. I don't need domain level support on my home
PC's. And I know that XP Home was hobbled in such a fashion that, given the
opportunity, I chose XP Pro over Home. Do want multimedia, do want Complete
PC backup. Hope they're both in Home Premium.

Lang

Hi,

There is a listing here:
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp
Do not know how accurate it is anymore.

It probably does'nt list EVERY difference.. unfortunately,
but an indication is better than nil.

Good luck.



Regarding Availability;
Customer wants to see movie X, he has seen the trailers, registered
at their web page and even talked about the movie with his friends.
Then Movie X is released on the internet in a DVD Screener before
customer can buy it in the store or watch it at the cinema.
Customer downloads movie X, and if it is really good he might buy
it on DVD or go watch it at the cinema with his friends.

If it sucks he would have saved money that he would otherwise have
spent to watch the movie legaly. I think we have all wished we
did'nt go to the cinema and watch a few movies that the advertisement
misrepresented...

Certainly some people use price to justify their actions, but I
think availability is just as an important reason.

 

[John Barnes]

More up to date
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/editions/default.mspx