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hhatkin
I haven't used this group before and find its structure confusing,
thus missing the fact that my question has been answered many times!
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hhatkin
To find where they are stored you have to do in WMail: Tools, Options,Jim Parker said:where do they go?
I have not been able to locate e mails like I could with OUTLOOK
Advanced, Maintenance, Store Folder.
I'm pretty sure OE WAS a lot easier for finding them!
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Guest
hhatkin said:Yes, that one, and it doesn't appear for ME every time I read an e-mail,
but it does appear every time I close WMail and it IS annoying then!
You need to compact it now and then to get rid of references to deleted
messages.
However, you may have Windows Mail set up to do it too often.
Click on Tools, then Options, then Advanced, then Maintenance.
You can adjust the number after Compact the database on
shutdown every; 100 is a good choice. Click on Close, then Apply,
then OK. Once you let it compact the database, it will remove the
message for that number of shutdowns.
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Guest
By default, every 100 times you close Windows Mail, it will offer to
compact the message store (mostly removing references to deleted
messages), and then every time until you let it do so.
If you let it compact the message store, the message will go away
until you close the program that number of times again.
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bizzy lizzy
I also get this message but always thought if I empted the delete box the
mail were gone for good
mail were gone for good
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Guest
The messages are gone, but some references to them in the message
store file are not. That message will keep appearing until you let it
compact the message store file, then go away for a number of times
you close the program - usually 100 times.
store file are not. That message will keep appearing until you let it
compact the message store file, then go away for a number of times
you close the program - usually 100 times.
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jkordosky
Carol in GA said:I've had Vista installed for almost a month now and this evening I keep
getting a message when I close Windows Mail that says:
"Windows Mail can compact the message store. This can take a few minutes."
and asks "OK or Cancel"
What is this?
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Guest
Windows Mail is offering to compact the index file for email messages, to
remove
the references to deleted messages, and will keep doing so until you let it
do this.
The actual messages are stored in separate files. Once you let it do this,
this
message will disappear until you close Windows Mail a certain number of
times -
usually 100 times.
remove
the references to deleted messages, and will keep doing so until you let it
do this.
The actual messages are stored in separate files. Once you let it do this,
this
message will disappear until you close Windows Mail a certain number of
times -
usually 100 times.
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MitchOttawa
I have been running Vista for 2 months and the message asking if I wanted to
compact just started appearing. It does so every time I log onto my windows
mail. After reading these threads, I still do not understand what the program
will do if I respond "yes". Someone else asked that question a few threads
ago and did not get an answer as well. What the heck is this?
Mitch
compact just started appearing. It does so every time I log onto my windows
mail. After reading these threads, I still do not understand what the program
will do if I respond "yes". Someone else asked that question a few threads
ago and did not get an answer as well. What the heck is this?
Mitch
Gary VanderMolen said:What does the windows say?
You mean the one about compacting the message store? That one
should not come up every time you read an email.
Gary VanderMolen [MS MVP-WLM]
slee said:How do you stop the window that keeps popping up everytime you read an email?
This is very annoying.
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Gary VanderMolen
By default the compaction process asks to run after you've opened
and closed Windows Mail 100 times. That frequency can be adjusted
under Tools, Options, Advanced, Maintenance. Once you let it do its
thing, it should not bother you again for another 100 runs.
What it does, it removes blank spaces that have developed in the
database. Every time you delete an email, that slot in the database
is made into a blank. Periodic removal of the blanks will make database
accesses faster.
--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
and closed Windows Mail 100 times. That frequency can be adjusted
under Tools, Options, Advanced, Maintenance. Once you let it do its
thing, it should not bother you again for another 100 runs.
What it does, it removes blank spaces that have developed in the
database. Every time you delete an email, that slot in the database
is made into a blank. Periodic removal of the blanks will make database
accesses faster.
--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
MitchOttawa said:I have been running Vista for 2 months and the message asking if I wanted to
compact just started appearing. It does so every time I log onto my windows
mail. After reading these threads, I still do not understand what the program
will do if I respond "yes". Someone else asked that question a few threads
ago and did not get an answer as well. What the heck is this?
Mitch
Gary VanderMolen said:What does the windows say?
You mean the one about compacting the message store? That one
should not come up every time you read an email.
Gary VanderMolen [MS MVP-WLM]
slee said:How do you stop the window that keeps popping up everytime you read an email?
This is very annoying.
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Clarissa
Does Windows Mail compact everything, like inbox, outbox, sent, deleted,
drafts, etc. etc?
Also, when I had Win 98 SE I used to go in and delete the sent folder,
delete folder, and occasionally the outbox folder. I'd restart OE and the
files would recreate themselves, enabling me to have a cleaner and faster
database in OE.
Can I do this in Windows Mail? Will the folders recreate themselves when I
restart Win Mail?
drafts, etc. etc?
Also, when I had Win 98 SE I used to go in and delete the sent folder,
delete folder, and occasionally the outbox folder. I'd restart OE and the
files would recreate themselves, enabling me to have a cleaner and faster
database in OE.
Can I do this in Windows Mail? Will the folders recreate themselves when I
restart Win Mail?
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Gary VanderMolen
Windows Mail (WM) uses a different storage method than OE.
In OE, all the messages were grouped together in .dbx files.
IN WM, each message occupies its own file, so no message
compaction needed. The 'compaction' mentioned in WM is
internal to the message database. Each time you delete a message,
it leaves in empty spot in the database (index). Compaction
removes the empty spaces, thereby speeding up database access.
I don't recommend deleting folders in WM.
In OE, all the messages were grouped together in .dbx files.
IN WM, each message occupies its own file, so no message
compaction needed. The 'compaction' mentioned in WM is
internal to the message database. Each time you delete a message,
it leaves in empty spot in the database (index). Compaction
removes the empty spaces, thereby speeding up database access.
I don't recommend deleting folders in WM.
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Laura
What is the purpose of the Clean up function in WM? I see an option to delete messages? Is that for news group message only?
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Gary VanderMolen
It is not clear to me whether the Clean Up Now function applies
only to newsgroup messages, or also to emails. I've never used it.
Perhaps someone who has used it can brief us.
only to newsgroup messages, or also to emails. I've never used it.
Perhaps someone who has used it can brief us.
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Laura
Well, I played guinea pig on my own machine. I ran the "clean up". It
appears that it only works on newsgroup messages. It deleted the locally
cached *.nws files on my hard drive. I'm not sure about "compacting" as
there was not option to compact the database. There is a database file found
in c:\Owner\AppData\Local\Microsoft\windows mail\backup\new. The timestamp
of the file is from last night so it did not get impacted by the cleanup
process. At least the process does free up space by deleting the locally
stored nws files.
appears that it only works on newsgroup messages. It deleted the locally
cached *.nws files on my hard drive. I'm not sure about "compacting" as
there was not option to compact the database. There is a database file found
in c:\Owner\AppData\Local\Microsoft\windows mail\backup\new. The timestamp
of the file is from last night so it did not get impacted by the cleanup
process. At least the process does free up space by deleting the locally
stored nws files.
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Clarissa
Gary, my reply to your post yesterday at 6:06pm -
It was great cleaning the OE database. It was easy and convenient, and I
loved having the control of making my email program work faster.
I noticed that OE kept an inaccurate kilobyte count. OE said my Inbox was
37MB. I only had about 29 messages in my inbox. I created a new folder in
OE and dumped the messages from the Inbox into the new folder I created.
Then I deleted inbox.dbx and it recreated itself just as I knew it would. I
then put the messages back into the newly created Inbox in my OE.
Last thing: I re-checked the inbox.dbx and it was then correct. It
registered about 2MB or something like that. In other words the database was
small again, and accurate.
Apparently OE kept inaccurate kilobyte/megabyte numbers. Shame on OE!!!
I just hope WM doesn't do this very same thing. It doesn't appear that I
have that much control with Vista, plus my machine is formatted with an NTFS.
It was great cleaning the OE database. It was easy and convenient, and I
loved having the control of making my email program work faster.
I noticed that OE kept an inaccurate kilobyte count. OE said my Inbox was
37MB. I only had about 29 messages in my inbox. I created a new folder in
OE and dumped the messages from the Inbox into the new folder I created.
Then I deleted inbox.dbx and it recreated itself just as I knew it would. I
then put the messages back into the newly created Inbox in my OE.
Last thing: I re-checked the inbox.dbx and it was then correct. It
registered about 2MB or something like that. In other words the database was
small again, and accurate.
Apparently OE kept inaccurate kilobyte/megabyte numbers. Shame on OE!!!
I just hope WM doesn't do this very same thing. It doesn't appear that I
have that much control with Vista, plus my machine is formatted with an NTFS.
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Gary VanderMolen
Thanks for your feedback. It makes sense that Clean Up applies only
to news messages, but Microsoft should make that distinction clearer.
to news messages, but Microsoft should make that distinction clearer.
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Gary VanderMolen
Not sure which post of mine you are replying to, because we are
(apparently) not in the same time zone.
I haven't done anything with OE for over 16 months now, so I tend
to forget how it compared to Windows Mail.
(apparently) not in the same time zone.
I haven't done anything with OE for over 16 months now, so I tend
to forget how it compared to Windows Mail.
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David Gleeson
Thanks, Gary,
A clear, understandble answer.
I'm having same issue.
David
A clear, understandble answer.
I'm having same issue.
David
Gary VanderMolen said:By default the compaction process asks to run after you've opened
and closed Windows Mail 100 times. That frequency can be adjusted
under Tools, Options, Advanced, Maintenance. Once you let it do its
thing, it should not bother you again for another 100 runs.
What it does, it removes blank spaces that have developed in the
database. Every time you delete an email, that slot in the database
is made into a blank. Periodic removal of the blanks will make database
accesses faster.
--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
MitchOttawa said:I have been running Vista for 2 months and the message asking if I wanted to
compact just started appearing. It does so every time I log onto my windows
mail. After reading these threads, I still do not understand what the program
will do if I respond "yes". Someone else asked that question a few threads
ago and did not get an answer as well. What the heck is this?
Mitch
Gary VanderMolen said:What does the windows say?
You mean the one about compacting the message store? That one
should not come up every time you read an email.
Gary VanderMolen [MS MVP-WLM]
How do you stop the window that keeps popping up everytime you read an email?
This is very annoying.
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