winchester 3000+ running badly

H

Highlandish

below is a cpu-z dump. it all seems normal and is running on an asus
a8v-deluxe rev1 with a new install of xp-pro, I have 1gig pc3200 (2x512).

problem is that this machine is running worse than my old xp2800/nf7-s
system.

are there any tweaks or configuration settings that will improve this other
than overclocking? I have the latest asus-a8v files
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
NameAMD Athlon 64 3000+ Code NameWinchester SpecificationAMD Athlon(tm) 64
Processor 3000+ Family / Model / SteppingF F 0 Extended Family / ModelF 1F
Brand ID4 PackageSocket 939 Core SteppingDH8-D0 Technology0.09 µ Supported
Instructions SetsMMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2,
x86-64 CPU Clock Speed1802.3 MHz Clock multiplierx 9.0 HTT Bus
Frequency200.3 MHz L1 Data Cache64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes
line size L1 Instruction Cache64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes
line size L2 Cache512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size L2
Speed1802.3 MHz (Full) L2 LocationOn Chip L2 Data Prefetch Logicyes L2 Bus
Width128 bits
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 
L

LBJGH

You say runnin worse than your old 2800+?

Is the system crashing or are you getting poor benchmark results or not
getting the expected o/c results?
 
G

General Schvantzkoph

below is a cpu-z dump. it all seems normal and is running on an asus
a8v-deluxe rev1 with a new install of xp-pro, I have 1gig pc3200 (2x512).

problem is that this machine is running worse than my old xp2800/nf7-s
system.

are there any tweaks or configuration settings that will improve this other
than overclocking? I have the latest asus-a8v files
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
NameAMD Athlon 64 3000+ Code NameWinchester SpecificationAMD Athlon(tm) 64
Processor 3000+ Family / Model / SteppingF F 0 Extended Family / ModelF 1F
Brand ID4 PackageSocket 939 Core SteppingDH8-D0 Technology0.09 µ Supported
Instructions SetsMMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2,
x86-64 CPU Clock Speed1802.3 MHz Clock multiplierx 9.0 HTT Bus
Frequency200.3 MHz L1 Data Cache64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes
line size L1 Instruction Cache64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes
line size L2 Cache512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size L2
Speed1802.3 MHz (Full) L2 LocationOn Chip L2 Data Prefetch Logicyes L2 Bus
Width128 bits
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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What clock speed are you running the processor at? With Cool & Quiet
enabled you have wide control over the clock speed. With Linux the clock
speed is controlled by the files in,

/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq

In Windows there is a control panel that allows you to select the
performance mode.
 
E

Ed Light

General Schvantzkoph said:
In Windows there is a control panel that allows you to select the
performance mode.
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Where does it hide out?


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Wes Newell

below is a cpu-z dump. it all seems normal and is running on an asus
a8v-deluxe rev1 with a new install of xp-pro, I have 1gig pc3200 (2x512).

problem is that this machine is running worse than my old xp2800/nf7-s
system.

are there any tweaks or configuration settings that will improve this
other than overclocking? I have the latest asus-a8v files
Click to expand...

Well, I don't run Win, but I assume you did a new WXP install rather then
just using the old install. if not, then try a repair install.
 
G

General Schvantzkoph

Where does it hide out?
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Just look under the control panels. I don't normally run Windows so I
don't remember which one it is off hand, it's probably called system or
something like that. There are number of choices, laptop mode, desktop
mode, low power??, high performance??. They are all explained in the
control panel.
 
E

Ed Light

I have cool'n'quiet running but that panel only offers Programs and
Background Services under under Processor Scheduling.


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General Schvantzkoph

I have cool'n'quiet running but that panel only offers Programs and
Background Services under under Processor Scheduling.
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The control panel is called Power Options.
 
E

Ed Light

General Schvantzkoph said:
The control panel is called Power Options.
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That is only offering shut down and standby options.
Nothing for cool'n'quiet.
Maybe it offers more for a laptop.

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Ed Light

Ed said:
To enable CnQ in Window XP desktop, enable CnQ and APCI in bios, install
AMD64 CPU driver, Open control panel, select Power options, set to
Minimal Power Management.
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That turns off the monitor after 15 minutes. I don't think it affect
cool'n'quiet. I have that set to never and the amd cool'n'quiet panel shows
it working.


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Highlandish

Qoth The Raven "LBJGH said:
You say runnin worse than your old 2800+?

Is the system crashing or are you getting poor benchmark results or
not getting the expected o/c results?
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not o/c'd, just getting very poor benchmark results
 
H

Highlandish

Qoth The Raven "General Schvantzkoph said:
What clock speed are you running the processor at? With Cool & Quiet
enabled you have wide control over the clock speed. With Linux the
clock speed is controlled by the files in,

/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq

In Windows there is a control panel that allows you to select the
performance mode.
Click to expand...

its running at the standard 1800 with the x9 setting
 
H

Highlandish

Qoth The Raven "Wes Newell said:
Well, I don't run Win, but I assume you did a new WXP install rather
then just using the old install. if not, then try a repair install.
Click to expand...

its a new install
 
M

Michael Paul

Hi,

Ed said:
That turns off the monitor after 15 minutes. I don't think it affect
cool'n'quiet.
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Of course, it does. This power management option enables the dynamic
switching of the CPU speed as documented by AMD.
The other settings you are able to change (like monitor off) indeed
don't influence CnQ.
If you want to get full speed, try another power scheme like "Always
On" or "Desktop".

Michael
 
E

Ed Light

Michael Paul said:
Hi,



Of course, it does. This power management option enables the dynamic
switching of the CPU speed as documented by AMD.
The other settings you are able to change (like monitor off) indeed
don't influence CnQ.
If you want to get full speed, try another power scheme like "Always
On" or "Desktop".
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I know AMD says so, but their own PowerNow Dashboard shows the action.


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Michael Paul

Ed said:
I know AMD says so, but their own PowerNow Dashboard shows the
action.
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Sorry, let me see, if I understood you correctly:
If your power management is set to "Minimal Power Management" (and CnQ
is enabled in BIOS), then you should see CnQ working: CPU speed varies
with load. Right?
And what happens, if you set the power scheme to something different,
like "Always On", "Presentation", "Desktop"?

I am running W2k, there is a slightly different behaviour. After
installation of the AMD software, I get an additional register that
allows me to set CnQ directly to dynamic switching, or full speed.

greets, Michael
 
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Ed

And what happens, if you set the power scheme to something different,
like "Always On", "Presentation", "Desktop"?
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Then CnQ is disabled and the CPU should run at full speed no matter what
the load is.
 
M

Michael Paul

Am Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:55:43 -0600 schrieb Ed:
Then CnQ is disabled and the CPU should run at full speed no matter what
the load is.
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Seems it works like designed:)

Michael
 
E

Ed

below is a cpu-z dump. it all seems normal and is running on an asus
a8v-deluxe rev1 with a new install of xp-pro, I have 1gig pc3200 (2x512).

problem is that this machine is running worse than my old xp2800/nf7-s
system.

are there any tweaks or configuration settings that will improve this other
than overclocking? I have the latest asus-a8v files
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
NameAMD Athlon 64 3000+ Code NameWinchester SpecificationAMD Athlon(tm) 64
Processor 3000+ Family / Model / SteppingF F 0 Extended Family / ModelF 1F
Brand ID4 PackageSocket 939 Core SteppingDH8-D0 Technology0.09 µ Supported
Instructions SetsMMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2,
x86-64 CPU Clock Speed1802.3 MHz Clock multiplierx 9.0 HTT Bus
Frequency200.3 MHz L1 Data Cache64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes
line size L1 Instruction Cache64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes
line size L2 Cache512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size L2
Speed1802.3 MHz (Full) L2 LocationOn Chip L2 Data Prefetch Logicyes L2 Bus
Width128 bits
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Click to expand...

Command Rate @ 2T instead of 1T and/or running the ram at lower MHz then
the CPU bus would slow it down, check all your settings?

Ed
 

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