Why Only On One PC?

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Alias

Miss Perspicacia Tick said:
Not really no. I don't find it inconvenient in the slightest. I have nothing
to hide, I paid for my Windows, it takes a couple of seconds to activate
online, or a couple of minutes over the phone - you don't have to speak to
anyone!

All of which a "pirate" doesn't have to do. Please explain how you call
someone and not talk to them. This should be good.
It isn't intrusive, and has been made necessary by pirates like you.

I have a legitimate copy of XP that I PAID for. I am not a pirate. The fact
that I don't like MS' policies does not therefore mean I am a pirate.
MS invested greatly in development, and WPA is just their way of protecting
that investment - think of it as an insurance policy. You have insurance
against someone stealing your car, don't you?

No, I don't own a car and never will. Why would I want to own the most
dangerous thing to get into in the entire world?
MS has insurance against
people, like you, stealing their software.

How did you come to the conclusion that I steal software?
Pirates can't update their software either. So if you don't mind leaving
your system open to Hades-knows-what then, yes, go ahead and pirate if it
makes you feel you're 'railing against the machine' but don't be surprised
if you're caught out sooner or later.

Like I said, my copy is legit. That said, the updates have been cracked too,
so your fear mongering is unwarranted and your accusations baseless.

Alias, waiting for an apology.
 
J

Jone Doe

Alias said:
All of which a "pirate" doesn't have to do. Please explain how you call
someone and not talk to them. This should be good.


I have a legitimate copy of XP that I PAID for. I am not a pirate. The fact
that I don't like MS' policies does not therefore mean I am a pirate.


No, I don't own a car and never will. Why would I want to own the most
dangerous thing to get into in the entire world?


How did you come to the conclusion that I steal software?


Like I said, my copy is legit. That said, the updates have been cracked too,
so your fear mongering is unwarranted and your accusations baseless.

Alias, waiting for an apology.
Still waiting? Let us know when you're done.
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

Then quit suggesting someone else take it to court.
Why do you want someone else to fail?
You can take to court yourself and fail.
Unless you do not think you really have a case?

"When have I told you how to protect your property?"
Never that I know of.
Just like you have no right to tell anyone else...including Microsoft.
You can make suggestions and they are in their right to ignore your
suggestions on their property.

Lastly if you do not know what this is about as your last question
suggests you are either an ignorant fool or a troll.
But I do think you know exactly what this is about and now you are
trolling about semantics.
I do not see any point in dealing with you in either event.

Post back if your ego demands the last word, otherwise your response
is pointless.
 
R

Roger_over&out

Two pieces of advice for you Jupiter, as well as the others who seem
intent to keep this thread going until carpal-tunnel syndrome sets in to
their opponent and they can then declare themselves the winner:

1. Judge not lest ye be judged.

2. Get a life. You are NOT going to convince anyone of anything by
arguing in this newsgroup.
 
J

Jone Doe

Two pieces of advice for you Jupiter, as well as the others who seem
intent to keep this thread going until carpal-tunnel syndrome sets in to
their opponent and they can then declare themselves the winner:

1. Judge not lest ye be judged.

Nobody ever finishes the quote and keeps it in context. "For with what
judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged; and with what measure ye mete, it
shall be measured to you again."

Nothing wrong with rigtheous, correct judgment.
 
H

hermes

Jupiter said:
Then quit suggesting someone else take it to court.
It is not my responsibility to prove that M$'s eula would stand up in
court. It is noone's responsibility but M$s.
Why do you want someone else to fail?
Your attitude in the above statement shows that you don't think it would
stand up in a court of law either.
You can take to court yourself and fail.
Unless you do not think you really have a case?
Again, not my eula that needs to be proved.
"When have I told you how to protect your property?"
Never that I know of.
Just like you have no right to tell anyone else...including Microsoft.
How is coming in here and posting my opinion telling M$ how to protect
their property?
You can make suggestions and they are in their right to ignore your
suggestions on their property.
Of course they are in their right to ignore my suggestions. I only
express my opinions.
Lastly if you do not know what this is about as your last question
suggests you are either an ignorant fool or a troll.
But I do think you know exactly what this is about and now you are
trolling about semantics.
I do not see any point in dealing with you in either event.

Post back if your ego demands the last word, otherwise your response
is pointless.
Posting in here to express my opinions and to have coversations about
them does not mean I have an ego. I ask the question not because I
don't know how I would answer it, but it is nice to know we are on the
same page and referring to the same thing. I would answer that question
like this: The product is the copy of software on a cd that one owns
because one paid for it.

--
hermes
DRM sux! Treacherous Computing kills our virtual civil liberties!
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/index.html
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
http://anti-dmca.org/
http://www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/unintended_consequences.php

Windows XP crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams
 
H

hermes

R. McCarty said:
People are just ticked that they can't buy a single copy and use it
on every PC they own, like in previous versions.
Wrong, I am ticked because corporations like M$ are trampling all over
my fair use rights for non-commercial purposes with their "shrink wrap
license" scheme.
Microsoft just uses WPA/DRM to limit it's use to a single computer.
After years of a "Free Ride", many folks can't get over the end of
that. I still encounter people who won't buy/use any software that
uses "Activation".

WPA just technologically enforces their long standing EULA.
One Disk, One PID, One Hardware Hash ->One Computer

But even that doesn't stop VLK, KeyGens and "White Lies" to the
product activation center.

I don't think there is an analogy to other commercial products
because few if any have Digital Rights Management built in.

--

hermes
DRM sux! Treacherous Computing kills our virtual civil liberties!
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/index.html
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
http://anti-dmca.org/
http://www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/unintended_consequences.php

Windows XP crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

Ah, I see. It's an inconvenience for legitimate users simply
because _you_ say it is. How could I have been so obtuse?

Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:



You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

Actually, the "most dangerous thing in the entire world" isn't the
automobile. Not even close. The most dangerous "thing" is the world
is the willfully ignorant mind.

Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:



You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH
 
A

Alias

Bruce Chambers said:
Greetings --

Ah, I see. It's an inconvenience for legitimate users simply
because _you_ say it is. How could I have been so obtuse?

Bruce Chambers

You don't get it.

Sigh.

Alias
 
A

Alex Nichol

R. McCarty said:
People are just ticked that they can't buy a single copy and use it
on every PC they own, like in previous versions.

Microsoft just uses WPA/DRM to limit it's use to a single computer.
After years of a "Free Ride", many folks can't get over the end of
that. I still encounter people who won't buy/use any software that
uses "Activation".

And I think the major point of the activation system was to bring the
point home to people. Ten years ago the house with more than one
computer was a rarity. Now the house with less than two or three is
almost as rare. And people got the idea that their one copy was
available to install on every machine in sight, without realising it
wasn't. Hence WPA to bring them up short, in the belief that *most*
people are honest and will not tell deliberate lies, without any serious
inconvenience to those making legitimate changes

Which is not to say that I entirely agree with the licensing policy.
There ought to be a means for families to get multiple licences at a far
bigger discount than the derisory one offered, and without having to do
it by applying that to a purchase of a new box. This would recognise
the saving on manufacture, distribution and third party markups
(remembering that the retailers were not involved in the previous
freeloading, and got nothing out), and most importantly that the
additional licenses would carry no additional support. This I think
would make better commercial sense, too, and that is a view I have
pressed at top level - but I am not holding my breath.
 
A

Alexander Grigoriev

OK.

How about example:

A private teacher gives a group lesson, and every listener pays a fixed fee.
You pay for you only, but bring another non-paying person with you (variant:
you use your phone to allow another person to listen to the lecture). Will
it be fair? The teacher doesn't overwork just because one more person is
attending. Do you think it's fair use of the lecturer?
 
P

Plato

Alexander said:
A private teacher gives a group lesson, and every listener pays a fixed fee.
You pay for you only, but bring another non-paying person with you (variant:
you use your phone to allow another person to listen to the lecture). Will
it be fair? The teacher doesn't overwork just because one more person is
attending. Do you think it's fair use of the lecturer?

Please crawl back into your whole.
 
G

Greg R

Miss Perspicacia Tick,
If you have 25 computer. You could get a volume license. No
activation is required for those machines.

Greg R
 
M

Miss Perspicacia Tick

This scumbag {Jupiter Jones [Most Valuable Pirate]}said: "You agree to the
terms or return the product" Unfortunately, you can't return the product
once you have opened it. Therefore, M$ is at fault for not bringing the
terms to my attention before the contract for sale was agreed i.e. before
I parted with my hard earned do$h! I can use the product on as many PCs I
want as the terms of the contract were not brought to my attention. I m
doing exactly that at present!!!!! Hooray!!! Activation is a joke!!!!!!!
 
M

Miss Perspicacia Tick

Bill the scumbag is now Chief Software Architect, whatever this means but in
reality he is still the top guy at M$ HQ. What he is not is the richest man on
this planet as this title has gone to a 77 years old Swede running IKEA.
Perhaps this says everything you want to know about activation and what it can
do with company's revenues!!!!!!!!!!
 
M

Miss Perspicacia Tick

I don't know what you are worried about. Most new computers from Dell, HP
etc come with OS preinstalled whether you like it or not. Also, M$ database
of products already activated is wiped clean every 120 days. This can be
proved by reinstalling the product and trying to reactivate it online (not
using the telephone line). Therefore, potentially you could buy a PC every
120 days and use the only OS and/or Office you have on CD. I have done it
on 25 machines (i.e. installed upgrade version of Office XP professional).
All activated fine and now I am running an internet cafe charging people for
my ingenuity!!!!
 
M

Miss Perspicacia Tick

This unknow idot said: "By the way, automobile license plates are a product
maufactured in most states by the prison population. Do you transfer the plate to
multiple cars?"

Yes in some countries if you have private number plates you can transfer it on to
another car when you scrap the first one. This also applies to M$ retail versions
of OS and Application packages. But I have said many times that you can use the
120 days loop hole!!!
 

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