Why can't I see my web in Netscape?

[Guest]

I have designed a web site in Frontpage 2003.
When I go to check how my website looks in Netscape, all I get is a blank
screen.
It works and looks fine in Explorer.
Does this mean that nothing works in Netscape, or am I just missing something?

 

[fido]

I have designed a web site in Frontpage 2003.
When I go to check how my website looks in Netscape, all I get is a blank
screen.
It works and looks fine in Explorer.
Does this mean that nothing works in Netscape, or am I just missing something?

If the site is online, what is the URL?

fido

 

[Guest]

Try Netscape 6. Netscape 7 has problems with FP websites.

 

[Murray]

I don't think so. NN6 is useless as a test since it's even smaller in
market share than Opera.

NN7 will render any well formed (and valid) web page regardless of what was
used to create it.

 

[Craig Schiller]

Nonsense.
Craig

Try Netscape 6. Netscape 7 has problems with FP websites.

 

[Guest]

No, it is not online yet, which is my next challenge. This website will
replace another. I need to figure out how that is done.

 

[Guest]

I have downloaded netscape 8, just last night.
You say that NS 7 has a problem with FP. Does that mean the site will
possibly show up in others, but not that one?
Thanks.

 

[Guest]

Thanks.
I downloaded NN 8 last night. And apparently it has the same problem as
with NN 6.

 

[Murray]

What you mean to say is that your site's coding renders as poorly in NN8 as
it does in NN6, right? The answer is not in browser versions, it's in the
code. Without seeing that, nobody can help you.

Just upload the page to a new folder on your existing website. Post that
link here.

 

[Guest]

OK, thanks.

What you mean to say is that your site's coding renders as poorly in NN8 as
it does in NN6, right? The answer is not in browser versions, it's in the
code. Without seeing that, nobody can help you.

Just upload the page to a new folder on your existing website. Post that
link here.

 

[Guest]

Are you saying that FP 2000 doesn't write "well formed (and valid) code?"
Since I have not yet learned to write html code, I use FP 2000 exclusively
and Netscape 7 (and Firefox without extentions) does not effectively show my
site.

 

[Murray]

Not at all. What I'm saying is that in the hands of someone unfamiliar
with HTML, it is quite possible to direct FP to do things that produce
non-well formed and valid code. If you will post a link to your page(s),
I'll tell you how to avoid such things.

The bottom line is this: the more you know about HTML, the more your pages
will become cross-browser compliant, even though you only ever use FP in
design mode. It will happen like magic! 8)

 

[Guest]

Thanks, Murray. Here's the url: http://lifeofrileycollectiques.net

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

For starters you have broken table tags, broken font tags, and illegal embed in the body and a missing </html> tag
To start cleaning up you home page
In FP 2003 right click the page in code view and select Reformat Html
Then use Tools Browser Compatibility

--




| Thanks, Murray. Here's the url: http://lifeofrileycollectiques.net
|
| "Murray" wrote:
|
| > Not at all. What I'm saying is that in the hands of someone unfamiliar
| > with HTML, it is quite possible to direct FP to do things that produce
| > non-well formed and valid code. If you will post a link to your page(s),
| > I'll tell you how to avoid such things.
| >
| > The bottom line is this: the more you know about HTML, the more your pages
| > will become cross-browser compliant, even though you only ever use FP in
| > design mode. It will happen like magic! 8)
| >
| > --
| > Murray
| > ============
| >
| > | > > Are you saying that FP 2000 doesn't write "well formed (and valid) code?"
| > > Since I have not yet learned to write html code, I use FP 2000 exclusively
| > > and Netscape 7 (and Firefox without extentions) does not effectively show
| > > my
| > > site.
| > >
| > > "Murray" wrote:
| > >
| > >> I don't think so. NN6 is useless as a test since it's even smaller in
| > >> market share than Opera.
| > >>
| > >> NN7 will render any well formed (and valid) web page regardless of what
| > >> was
| > >> used to create it.
| > >>
| > >> --
| > >> Murray
| > >> ============
| > >>
| > >> | > >> > Try Netscape 6. Netscape 7 has problems with FP websites.
| > >> >
| > >> > "Yonkers" wrote:
| > >> >
| > >> >> I have designed a web site in Frontpage 2003.
| > >> >> When I go to check how my website looks in Netscape, all I get is a
| > >> >> blank
| > >> >> screen.
| > >> >> It works and looks fine in Explorer.
| > >> >> Does this mean that nothing works in Netscape, or am I just missing
| > >> >> something?
| > >> >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| >
| >
| >

 

[Murray]

OK - if you are going to put sound on your page, it's a good idea to also
put a "Sound Off" button so that people who don't want to hear your music
can just turn it off (my opinion, at least). Or maybe only play it once
rather than a loop into perpetuity!

Here's what Stefan means by "broken font tags" -

<font size="5" color="#000080"><font color="#000080"><img border="0"
src="images/ampersand.gif" width="79" height="87"></font><b>

Note that you have two opening (and redundant) font tags before <img> and
one after (before the <b>). That's an improperly nested arrangement. Both
opening font tags would need to be closed before that <b> could be applied -
or better yet, just delete the second one, e.g.,

<font size="5" color="#000080"><img border="0" src="images/ampersand.gif"
width="79" height="87"></font><b>

Here's another example -

</div>
<center>
<p align="center" style="background-color: ##000000"><font
color="#000000">
<!--webbot ...snip... -->
<img src="_vti_bin/fpcount.exe/?Page=index.html|Image=2" alt="Hit
Counter">
<!--webbot ...snip... -->
</font>
</center>
</font>

(I have snipped out code for clarity)

The nesting here is completely wrong. First the center tag, then a
(unclosed) <p> tag, then a font tag. The closing order should then be
font - p - center, but you have font - center - font! (there is no opening
font to correspond to that one).

(I didn't see any broken table tags, though)

Finally, a well-formed HTML page should always end with </body></html>, but
yours just ends with </body>.

So - the bottom line is that Netscape is just choking on this 'hinky'
markup.

Now, you will probably say "but I don't know HTML, and I haven't touched any
code on the page!", and I would believe you. How did the page get like
this? Honestly, I don't know. When you work ONLY in design view, I do know
that it's possible to *get your design into a place where you cannot get it
back out*, in other words, there are things that you will see on the screen
that you *cannot* delete or change. People who do not know HTML are
frustrated by this all the time. I can only guess that in attempting to
change some of those things, you have invoked some operations that caused
this improper nesting of tags. What would lead to the missing </html> tag,
though, I just cannot imagine.

What is the solution? For this page, the only thing I can see to do would
be to 'heal' it in code view - that shouldn't be too hard, even for someone
new to code view. Or to start over. Or to get someone to do it for you.

Like here - http://www.murraytestsite.com/lifeofriley.html

(note that this displays in Netscape - all I did was to fix the errors
pointed out by Stefan)
(also note that I made all of your image links into absolute links - you may
want to change that back to relative linking)
(also note that I did not enable the sound or the hit counter)

 

[Guest]

Thank you, Stefan for your response. I take it that in FP 2000 one cannot
reformat Html. Is that correct?

 

[Guest]

Wow! Murrary, thank you for your lengthy and helpful response. I will go to
work with your suggestions and try to do a needed cleanup.

 

[Murray]

I already did that for you. Grap the markup from the page to which I linked
and use it. No charge. 8)