A
Ad
Bill said:
Yes, I do not think there is anyway to stop any OS from connecting to
the internet, unless the Internet system is changed. I got an Amiga
4000, which I use to connect to the net now and again, and that still
works fine.
Yes, I do not think there is anyway to stop any OS from connecting to
the internet, unless the Internet system is changed. I got an Amiga
4000, which I use to connect to the net now and again, and that still
works fine.
G
Greg R
Sorry, if duplicate post
Ad,
What browser do you use?
Even since firefox 1.0 came out. I been using firefox for almost
ever thing except a few web pages that cause a problem.
I did not upgrade to 1.1 yet. Those security fixes are for other
oses. I still want to be able to use all my plug-ins and themes.
That one think I don't like about firefox, when upgrading to a new
browser it is not backward compatible with older plug-ins and themes
Greg
Ad,
What browser do you use?
Even since firefox 1.0 came out. I been using firefox for almost
ever thing except a few web pages that cause a problem.
I did not upgrade to 1.1 yet. Those security fixes are for other
oses. I still want to be able to use all my plug-ins and themes.
That one think I don't like about firefox, when upgrading to a new
browser it is not backward compatible with older plug-ins and themes
Greg
B
Bruce Chambers
Ad said:so now you know, we can all use windows, but make sure you do not
install any software
Yup! It's just like your automobile - if you never use it, you'll
never be involved in a traffic accident.
--
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH
K
kurttrail
Bruce said:
Well that's not exactly true. You can get involved in a traffic
accident as a pedestrian. And some people have been involved in traffic
accidents in their livingroom, when a car plows through their livingroom
wall.
--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
D
Dan
Thanks Greg R.
:
: >"I think eveyones waiting on the outcome of sco lawsuit." (Can you post a
: >web-link, please)
: >
: Do a search one the web for sco lawsuit-you will find alot.
:
:
: Mslinux
: http://www.mslinux.org/
:
: There was going to be a us version. That on hold. This was reported
: on another website.
:
: Greg R
:
: >"I think eveyones waiting on the outcome of sco lawsuit." (Can you post a
: >web-link, please)
: >
: Do a search one the web for sco lawsuit-you will find alot.
:
:
: Mslinux
: http://www.mslinux.org/
:
: There was going to be a us version. That on hold. This was reported
: on another website.
:
: Greg R
D
Dan
FYI, I talked with Microsoft on Saturday. There is a remote possiblity that
98SE will be redone and released as another operating system but it will not
be called 98SE and most likely there will not be any reference to 98SE. See
my complaining and writing constantly and calling frequently is starting to
get results. By the Way, I have been doing this petitioning since 2003.
Have a nice day! I will let you know more details that I am allowed to
reveal.
: Greg R wrote:
: > On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:35:42 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
: >
: >> The reason you're installing more updates is two-fold:
: >>
: >> 1. You aren't installing many updates for 9x systems at all these days,
: >> because Microsoft isn't issuing any--even a serious handful that they
: >> should be issuing, IMNSHO.
: >>
: >> 2. WinXP is a much more complicated system, with much larger set of
: >> functionalities, and exists in a world where hacking for profit is a
: >> much larger, almost mainstream enterprise, one that I suspect is now a
: >> primary mainstay of organized crime. Because of XPs position as the
: >> leading Desktop OS, it gets attacked most often. Admittedly, another
: >> part of this equation is that the underlying vulnerability in most cases
: >> is "buffer overflow", a situation that cannot be fixed except in
: >> piecemeal fashion until the entire core structure of Windows is changed.
: >> Whether MS manages to solve that problem is the issue upon which
: >> Microsoft's continued dominance depends. Until then, however, piecemeal
: >> is the best that can be done. But *none* of that means that Win9x is any
: >> more secure than XP. Just the opposite, in fact, when so many
: >> vulnerabilities that have been patched in XP and 2k go unpatched in the
: >> older
: >>
: >> Win98, 98SE and ME *are* dead, at least in so far as being a modern
: >> convenience. Sure, you can lock your 9x system away from the internet
: >> and run obsolete programs--same way MS-DOS and Win95 are still used.
: >> But that's *all* you'll be able to decently do with it by the time this
: year
: >> has closed.
: >
: > Gary,
: > You can still get virus scanners and software for windows 98.
: > most software excluding Microsoft say the requirements are
: > win98,me,nt, 2000,xp. Some even say software is not compatible with
: > xp.
: >
: > I don't think antivir, avast, f-prot, will stop supporting windows 98
: > or above.
: > Antivir still supports windows 95 and f-prot still support dos.
: >
: > Actual you can even get other virus scanners for windows 95 but it is
: > harder to find. Even open office 1.0 runs on windows 95
: >
: > As long i can connect to the internet. I will keep using windows
: > 98se.
: >
: > Greg R
:
: Me too, I expect. And I expect we will be able to connect to the
Internet
: with Win98SE, for a long, long time. And I'm not worried about the WU's
: either.
:
:
98SE will be redone and released as another operating system but it will not
be called 98SE and most likely there will not be any reference to 98SE. See
my complaining and writing constantly and calling frequently is starting to
get results. By the Way, I have been doing this petitioning since 2003.
Have a nice day! I will let you know more details that I am allowed to
reveal.
: Greg R wrote:
: > On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:35:42 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
: >
: >> The reason you're installing more updates is two-fold:
: >>
: >> 1. You aren't installing many updates for 9x systems at all these days,
: >> because Microsoft isn't issuing any--even a serious handful that they
: >> should be issuing, IMNSHO.
: >>
: >> 2. WinXP is a much more complicated system, with much larger set of
: >> functionalities, and exists in a world where hacking for profit is a
: >> much larger, almost mainstream enterprise, one that I suspect is now a
: >> primary mainstay of organized crime. Because of XPs position as the
: >> leading Desktop OS, it gets attacked most often. Admittedly, another
: >> part of this equation is that the underlying vulnerability in most cases
: >> is "buffer overflow", a situation that cannot be fixed except in
: >> piecemeal fashion until the entire core structure of Windows is changed.
: >> Whether MS manages to solve that problem is the issue upon which
: >> Microsoft's continued dominance depends. Until then, however, piecemeal
: >> is the best that can be done. But *none* of that means that Win9x is any
: >> more secure than XP. Just the opposite, in fact, when so many
: >> vulnerabilities that have been patched in XP and 2k go unpatched in the
: >> older
: >>
: >> Win98, 98SE and ME *are* dead, at least in so far as being a modern
: >> convenience. Sure, you can lock your 9x system away from the internet
: >> and run obsolete programs--same way MS-DOS and Win95 are still used.
: >> But that's *all* you'll be able to decently do with it by the time this
: year
: >> has closed.
: >
: > Gary,
: > You can still get virus scanners and software for windows 98.
: > most software excluding Microsoft say the requirements are
: > win98,me,nt, 2000,xp. Some even say software is not compatible with
: > xp.
: >
: > I don't think antivir, avast, f-prot, will stop supporting windows 98
: > or above.
: > Antivir still supports windows 95 and f-prot still support dos.
: >
: > Actual you can even get other virus scanners for windows 95 but it is
: > harder to find. Even open office 1.0 runs on windows 95
: >
: > As long i can connect to the internet. I will keep using windows
: > 98se.
: >
: > Greg R
:
: Me too, I expect. And I expect we will be able to connect to the
Internet
: with Win98SE, for a long, long time. And I'm not worried about the WU's
: either.
:
:
D
Dan
PCI Express and some newer technology will require XP or at least 2000. XP
has some more services and some software and hardware is only set up to run
on XP or 2000 but I think this is because Microsoft is trying to get rid of
98, 98SE, ME because of the expense, time and effort of supporting 2 lines of
code. However, having 2 lines of code is a plus because hackers will have to
spend more time and target 2 lines of code rather than just focusing on 1
single line of code.
:
: : > Greg R wrote:
: > > On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:35:42 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
: > >
: > >> The reason you're installing more updates is two-fold:
: > >>
: > >> 1. You aren't installing many updates for 9x systems at all these
days,
: > >> because Microsoft isn't issuing any--even a serious handful that they
: > >> should be issuing, IMNSHO.
: > >>
: > >> 2. WinXP is a much more complicated system, with much larger set of
: > >> functionalities, and exists in a world where hacking for profit is a
: > >> much larger, almost mainstream enterprise, one that I suspect is now a
: > >> primary mainstay of organized crime. Because of XPs position as the
: > >> leading Desktop OS, it gets attacked most often. Admittedly, another
: > >> part of this equation is that the underlying vulnerability in most
: cases
: > >> is "buffer overflow", a situation that cannot be fixed except in
: > >> piecemeal fashion until the entire core structure of Windows is
: changed.
: > >> Whether MS manages to solve that problem is the issue upon which
: > >> Microsoft's continued dominance depends. Until then, however,
piecemeal
: > >> is the best that can be done. But *none* of that means that Win9x is
: any
: > >> more secure than XP. Just the opposite, in fact, when so many
: > >> vulnerabilities that have been patched in XP and 2k go unpatched in
the
: > >> older
: > >>
: > >> Win98, 98SE and ME *are* dead, at least in so far as being a modern
: > >> convenience. Sure, you can lock your 9x system away from the internet
: > >> and run obsolete programs--same way MS-DOS and Win95 are still used.
: > >> But that's *all* you'll be able to decently do with it by the time
this
: > year
: > >> has closed.
: > >
: > > Gary,
: > > You can still get virus scanners and software for windows 98.
: > > most software excluding Microsoft say the requirements are
: > > win98,me,nt, 2000,xp. Some even say software is not compatible with
: > > xp.
: > >
: > > I don't think antivir, avast, f-prot, will stop supporting windows 98
: > > or above.
: > > Antivir still supports windows 95 and f-prot still support dos.
: > >
: > > Actual you can even get other virus scanners for windows 95 but it is
: > > harder to find. Even open office 1.0 runs on windows 95
: > >
: > > As long i can connect to the internet. I will keep using windows
: > > 98se.
: > >
: > > Greg R
: >
: > Me too, I expect. And I expect we will be able to connect to the
: Internet
: > with Win98SE, for a long, long time. And I'm not worried about the WU's
: > either.
: >
: >
:
: I run 98SE alongside XP and to be truthfull I really don't see what all the
: hype about XP is??? It's only attribute seems to be it's more complicated.
: It seems capable of crashing just as often (although granted it traps
: crashing better). I have yet to find anything that really matters that I
can
: only accomplish under XP or for that matter is even significantly easier
and
: /or faster..
:
:
has some more services and some software and hardware is only set up to run
on XP or 2000 but I think this is because Microsoft is trying to get rid of
98, 98SE, ME because of the expense, time and effort of supporting 2 lines of
code. However, having 2 lines of code is a plus because hackers will have to
spend more time and target 2 lines of code rather than just focusing on 1
single line of code.
:
: : > Greg R wrote:
: > > On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:35:42 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
: > >
: > >> The reason you're installing more updates is two-fold:
: > >>
: > >> 1. You aren't installing many updates for 9x systems at all these
days,
: > >> because Microsoft isn't issuing any--even a serious handful that they
: > >> should be issuing, IMNSHO.
: > >>
: > >> 2. WinXP is a much more complicated system, with much larger set of
: > >> functionalities, and exists in a world where hacking for profit is a
: > >> much larger, almost mainstream enterprise, one that I suspect is now a
: > >> primary mainstay of organized crime. Because of XPs position as the
: > >> leading Desktop OS, it gets attacked most often. Admittedly, another
: > >> part of this equation is that the underlying vulnerability in most
: cases
: > >> is "buffer overflow", a situation that cannot be fixed except in
: > >> piecemeal fashion until the entire core structure of Windows is
: changed.
: > >> Whether MS manages to solve that problem is the issue upon which
: > >> Microsoft's continued dominance depends. Until then, however,
piecemeal
: > >> is the best that can be done. But *none* of that means that Win9x is
: any
: > >> more secure than XP. Just the opposite, in fact, when so many
: > >> vulnerabilities that have been patched in XP and 2k go unpatched in
the
: > >> older
: > >>
: > >> Win98, 98SE and ME *are* dead, at least in so far as being a modern
: > >> convenience. Sure, you can lock your 9x system away from the internet
: > >> and run obsolete programs--same way MS-DOS and Win95 are still used.
: > >> But that's *all* you'll be able to decently do with it by the time
this
: > year
: > >> has closed.
: > >
: > > Gary,
: > > You can still get virus scanners and software for windows 98.
: > > most software excluding Microsoft say the requirements are
: > > win98,me,nt, 2000,xp. Some even say software is not compatible with
: > > xp.
: > >
: > > I don't think antivir, avast, f-prot, will stop supporting windows 98
: > > or above.
: > > Antivir still supports windows 95 and f-prot still support dos.
: > >
: > > Actual you can even get other virus scanners for windows 95 but it is
: > > harder to find. Even open office 1.0 runs on windows 95
: > >
: > > As long i can connect to the internet. I will keep using windows
: > > 98se.
: > >
: > > Greg R
: >
: > Me too, I expect. And I expect we will be able to connect to the
: Internet
: > with Win98SE, for a long, long time. And I'm not worried about the WU's
: > either.
: >
: >
:
: I run 98SE alongside XP and to be truthfull I really don't see what all the
: hype about XP is??? It's only attribute seems to be it's more complicated.
: It seems capable of crashing just as often (although granted it traps
: crashing better). I have yet to find anything that really matters that I
can
: only accomplish under XP or for that matter is even significantly easier
and
: /or faster..
:
:
D
Dan
XP does use more resources and that leads to problems
Sure it has better memory management for large amounts of memory but what
about the poor people in 3rd world countries that will turn to Linux when
they find XP is too expensive to buy. Also, since computers are very TOXIC
to the Environment Microsoft could be shown as having good will towards the
community by having a Classics line of 98SE reworked to allow it to be used
on older computers. Sure these older computers would not being able to run
some of the latest software but at least Microsoft could make them secure
through critical Windows Updates so that the whole Internet community could
be safer as a whole. Imagine the Press:
Microsoft Creates Classics Line of Software To Be Used On Older Computers
Grateful Nations thank Microsoft for Helping to Solve Disposal Problems with
Older Computers
People and Nations Can Now Save Money Using Older Microsoft Technology
Microsoft Has Discovered Another Cash Cow by harnassing power of older 9x
Technolgy
(No one said that I cannot dream big and shoot for the moon even if I just
hit the wood pile) LOL From It's a Wonderful Life with Jimmy Stewart and
Donna Reed -- Paraphrased
: pjp wrote:
:
: >
: >
: > I run 98SE alongside XP and to be truthfull I really don't see what all
the
: > hype about XP is??? It's only attribute seems to be it's more
complicated.
:
: XP is suppose to be more secure and more reliable, the problem is, it
: uses a lot more resouces.
:
:
: > It seems capable of crashing just as often (although granted it traps
: > crashing better). I have yet to find anything that really matters that I
can
: > only accomplish under XP or for that matter is even significantly easier
and
: > /or faster..
: >
: >
: Someone told me once that Windows is great and will run very nicely
: without crashing as long as you do not put any software on it. In his
: mind it was not windows that crash, but the software that is running.
:
: so now you know, we can all use windows, but make sure you do not
: install any software
Sure it has better memory management for large amounts of memory but what
about the poor people in 3rd world countries that will turn to Linux when
they find XP is too expensive to buy. Also, since computers are very TOXIC
to the Environment Microsoft could be shown as having good will towards the
community by having a Classics line of 98SE reworked to allow it to be used
on older computers. Sure these older computers would not being able to run
some of the latest software but at least Microsoft could make them secure
through critical Windows Updates so that the whole Internet community could
be safer as a whole. Imagine the Press:
Microsoft Creates Classics Line of Software To Be Used On Older Computers
Grateful Nations thank Microsoft for Helping to Solve Disposal Problems with
Older Computers
People and Nations Can Now Save Money Using Older Microsoft Technology
Microsoft Has Discovered Another Cash Cow by harnassing power of older 9x
Technolgy
(No one said that I cannot dream big and shoot for the moon even if I just
hit the wood pile) LOL From It's a Wonderful Life with Jimmy Stewart and
Donna Reed -- Paraphrased
: pjp wrote:
:
: >
: >
: > I run 98SE alongside XP and to be truthfull I really don't see what all
the
: > hype about XP is??? It's only attribute seems to be it's more
complicated.
:
: XP is suppose to be more secure and more reliable, the problem is, it
: uses a lot more resouces.
:
:
: > It seems capable of crashing just as often (although granted it traps
: > crashing better). I have yet to find anything that really matters that I
can
: > only accomplish under XP or for that matter is even significantly easier
and
: > /or faster..
: >
: >
: Someone told me once that Windows is great and will run very nicely
: without crashing as long as you do not put any software on it. In his
: mind it was not windows that crash, but the software that is running.
:
: so now you know, we can all use windows, but make sure you do not
: install any software
D
Dan
Heck older automobiles are redone and run as Classics. Why not do the same
with computers and software technology?
: Ad wrote:
:
: >
: > so now you know, we can all use windows, but make sure you do not
: > install any software
:
:
: Yup! It's just like your automobile - if you never use it, you'll
: never be involved in a traffic accident.
:
:
: --
:
: Bruce Chambers
:
: Help us help you:
:
:
:
: You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
: both at once. - RAH
with computers and software technology?
: Ad wrote:
:
: >
: > so now you know, we can all use windows, but make sure you do not
: > install any software
:
:
: Yup! It's just like your automobile - if you never use it, you'll
: never be involved in a traffic accident.
:
:
: --
:
: Bruce Chambers
:
: Help us help you:
:
:
:
: You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
: both at once. - RAH
D
Dan
Exactly Kurt and a computer is unlikely to kill you. Sure problems can lead
to identity theft but death is very unlikely.
: Bruce Chambers wrote:
: > Ad wrote:
: >
: >>
: >> so now you know, we can all use windows, but make sure you do not
: >> install any software
: >
: >
: > Yup! It's just like your automobile - if you never use it, you'll
: > never be involved in a traffic accident.
:
: Well that's not exactly true. You can get involved in a traffic
: accident as a pedestrian. And some people have been involved in traffic
: accidents in their livingroom, when a car plows through their livingroom
: wall.
:
: --
: Peace!
: Kurt
: Self-anointed Moderator
: microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
: http://microscum.com/mscommunity
: "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
: "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
:
:
to identity theft but death is very unlikely.
: Bruce Chambers wrote:
: > Ad wrote:
: >
: >>
: >> so now you know, we can all use windows, but make sure you do not
: >> install any software
: >
: >
: > Yup! It's just like your automobile - if you never use it, you'll
: > never be involved in a traffic accident.
:
: Well that's not exactly true. You can get involved in a traffic
: accident as a pedestrian. And some people have been involved in traffic
: accidents in their livingroom, when a car plows through their livingroom
: wall.
:
: --
: Peace!
: Kurt
: Self-anointed Moderator
: microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
: http://microscum.com/mscommunity
: "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
: "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
:
:
D
Dan
Wow, do you ever get any viruses or spyware on that system, Ad?
: Bill in Co. wrote:
:
: >
: > Me too, I expect. And I expect we will be able to connect to the
Internet
: > with Win98SE, for a long, long time. And I'm not worried about the WU's
: > either.
: >
:
:
: Yes, I do not think there is anyway to stop any OS from connecting to
: the internet, unless the Internet system is changed. I got an Amiga
: 4000, which I use to connect to the net now and again, and that still
: works fine.
: Bill in Co. wrote:
:
: >
: > Me too, I expect. And I expect we will be able to connect to the
Internet
: > with Win98SE, for a long, long time. And I'm not worried about the WU's
: > either.
: >
:
:
: Yes, I do not think there is anyway to stop any OS from connecting to
: the internet, unless the Internet system is changed. I got an Amiga
: 4000, which I use to connect to the net now and again, and that still
: works fine.
D
Dan
Thanks for the warning, Greg R. about upgrading. I guess a user must realize
that she/he must upgrade all plug-ins before upgrading to the newest browser.
: Sorry, if duplicate post
:
: On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 11:57:19 +0000, Ad <[email protected]>
: wrote:
:
: >Bill in Co. wrote:
: >
: >>
: >> Me too, I expect. And I expect we will be able to connect to the
Internet
: >> with Win98SE, for a long, long time. And I'm not worried about the
WU's
: >> either.
: >>
: >
: >
: >Yes, I do not think there is anyway to stop any OS from connecting to
: >the internet, unless the Internet system is changed. I got an Amiga
: >4000, which I use to connect to the net now and again, and that still
: >works fine.
:
: Ad,
: What browser do you use?
: Even since firefox 1.0 came out. I been using firefox for almost
: ever thing except a few web pages that cause a problem.
:
: I did not upgrade to 1.1 yet. Those security fixes are for other
: oses. I still want to be able to use all my plug-ins and themes.
: That one think I don't like about firefox, when upgrading to a new
: browser it is not backward compatible with older plug-ins and themes
:
:
: Greg
that she/he must upgrade all plug-ins before upgrading to the newest browser.
: Sorry, if duplicate post
:
: On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 11:57:19 +0000, Ad <[email protected]>
: wrote:
:
: >Bill in Co. wrote:
: >
: >>
: >> Me too, I expect. And I expect we will be able to connect to the
Internet
: >> with Win98SE, for a long, long time. And I'm not worried about the
WU's
: >> either.
: >>
: >
: >
: >Yes, I do not think there is anyway to stop any OS from connecting to
: >the internet, unless the Internet system is changed. I got an Amiga
: >4000, which I use to connect to the net now and again, and that still
: >works fine.
:
: Ad,
: What browser do you use?
: Even since firefox 1.0 came out. I been using firefox for almost
: ever thing except a few web pages that cause a problem.
:
: I did not upgrade to 1.1 yet. Those security fixes are for other
: oses. I still want to be able to use all my plug-ins and themes.
: That one think I don't like about firefox, when upgrading to a new
: browser it is not backward compatible with older plug-ins and themes
:
:
: Greg
D
Dan
Same here, <smile> Have a great day!
:
: > "Learn to think before you talk, that'll help." That is a lesson that I
: > am
: > learning everyday. Have a great day!
:
: LOL! Me too, it's a lesson I hope to never stop learning.
:
:
:
: > "Learn to think before you talk, that'll help." That is a lesson that I
: > am
: > learning everyday. Have a great day!
:
: LOL! Me too, it's a lesson I hope to never stop learning.
:
:
G
Greg R
Dan,
What will it be called?
G
Gary S. Terhune
Windows 9X, <gd&r>
A
Ad
On the Amiga? No, Spyware was not really a thing on the Amiga, there wasDan said:
viruses, but very few of them are about now.
A
Ad
Dan said:
It can do if you are using a 233 computer.
Then they will turn to Linux.
But you can still use Windows 98SE, you can not expect a company to
support something for ever, but I must admit, that Me could have been
supported for a little longer, since it is the last of the win9X system.
A
Ad
Dan said:
This is the problem, I was shocked to be able to run my SATA drives on
Windows ME, In fact almost everything on my computer will work with ME,
the only bit that will not work is the Dolby part of my sound card, but
since I do not use that bit anyway, it makes no odds.
They want to get rid of dos based systems.
Yea, I never thought of it like that.
D
Dan
Exactly and until DOS has a true maintenance operating system replacement as
Chris Quirke, MVP has pointed out we will continue to have serious problems.
According to Kurt, the problem(s) XP faces is the attachment of legacy
support to XP and this makes it more vulnerable. Well, I think regardless of
the fact of whether XP needs to be overhauled at the core level is a major
concern to Microsoft. The core level is what appears to be targetted by
hackers. These hackers are really smart. Heck, we have bad people who have
stolen records from ChoicePoint by setting up dummy accounts, T-Mobile was
hacked I think in 2003, Bank of America has had backups stolen by people and
this could lead to a security problem for government officials, the census
bureau wants all this information on people but can we trust them to keep it
secure in this day and age (???) I for one am not so sure because the
criminal element is brilliant. What motivates some is financial gain but for
others it is simply the thrill of being able to hack into systems. I suggest
watching the Matrix and Sneakers for entertainment as well as seeing how
people might be encouraged to do bad things. Finally, the book 1984 and
Animal Farm by George Orwell will open people's mind to the past as in the
case of Animal Farm and of the uncertain future if the government(s) get too
powerful and usurp people's freedoms and rights to liberty. I am not
anti-government. I want a strong government in the States to keep us safe
from terriorists. I do not want this government to grow so strong that
people have no freedom to choose their own path and must have it dictated to
them by the government. For instance, you send your child to school to
learn. This sounds okay, right. Well, you must consider they are being
exposed to things that your moral code may object to. I think this is why
home-schooling has caught on so much in the nation. Home-schoolers may be
more naive then kids taught in the public schools but they are usually
smarter if they came from a two parent home and had the parents take the time
to teach them correctly. Therefore, we do have the need for the state have
them complete tests to make sure they are performing at least as well as
their peers in public schools. Anyway, I am way off-topic but I just wanted
to express myself. Have a great night, Ad.
: Dan wrote:
: > PCI Express and some newer technology will require XP or at least 2000.
XP
:
: This is the problem, I was shocked to be able to run my SATA drives on
: Windows ME, In fact almost everything on my computer will work with ME,
: the only bit that will not work is the Dolby part of my sound card, but
: since I do not use that bit anyway, it makes no odds.
:
:
: > has some more services and some software and hardware is only set up to
run
: > on XP or 2000 but I think this is because Microsoft is trying to get rid
of
: > 98, 98SE, ME because of the expense, time and effort of supporting 2
lines of
:
: They want to get rid of dos based systems.
:
:
: > code. However, having 2 lines of code is a plus because hackers will
have to
: > spend more time and target 2 lines of code rather than just focusing on 1
: > single line of code.
:
: Yea, I never thought of it like that.
Chris Quirke, MVP has pointed out we will continue to have serious problems.
According to Kurt, the problem(s) XP faces is the attachment of legacy
support to XP and this makes it more vulnerable. Well, I think regardless of
the fact of whether XP needs to be overhauled at the core level is a major
concern to Microsoft. The core level is what appears to be targetted by
hackers. These hackers are really smart. Heck, we have bad people who have
stolen records from ChoicePoint by setting up dummy accounts, T-Mobile was
hacked I think in 2003, Bank of America has had backups stolen by people and
this could lead to a security problem for government officials, the census
bureau wants all this information on people but can we trust them to keep it
secure in this day and age (???) I for one am not so sure because the
criminal element is brilliant. What motivates some is financial gain but for
others it is simply the thrill of being able to hack into systems. I suggest
watching the Matrix and Sneakers for entertainment as well as seeing how
people might be encouraged to do bad things. Finally, the book 1984 and
Animal Farm by George Orwell will open people's mind to the past as in the
case of Animal Farm and of the uncertain future if the government(s) get too
powerful and usurp people's freedoms and rights to liberty. I am not
anti-government. I want a strong government in the States to keep us safe
from terriorists. I do not want this government to grow so strong that
people have no freedom to choose their own path and must have it dictated to
them by the government. For instance, you send your child to school to
learn. This sounds okay, right. Well, you must consider they are being
exposed to things that your moral code may object to. I think this is why
home-schooling has caught on so much in the nation. Home-schoolers may be
more naive then kids taught in the public schools but they are usually
smarter if they came from a two parent home and had the parents take the time
to teach them correctly. Therefore, we do have the need for the state have
them complete tests to make sure they are performing at least as well as
their peers in public schools. Anyway, I am way off-topic but I just wanted
to express myself. Have a great night, Ad.
: Dan wrote:
: > PCI Express and some newer technology will require XP or at least 2000.
XP
:
: This is the problem, I was shocked to be able to run my SATA drives on
: Windows ME, In fact almost everything on my computer will work with ME,
: the only bit that will not work is the Dolby part of my sound card, but
: since I do not use that bit anyway, it makes no odds.
:
:
: > has some more services and some software and hardware is only set up to
run
: > on XP or 2000 but I think this is because Microsoft is trying to get rid
of
: > 98, 98SE, ME because of the expense, time and effort of supporting 2
lines of
:
: They want to get rid of dos based systems.
:
:
: > code. However, having 2 lines of code is a plus because hackers will
have to
: > spend more time and target 2 lines of code rather than just focusing on 1
: > single line of code.
:
: Yea, I never thought of it like that.
D
Dan
I wonder how many others use systems as ancient as the Amiga to connect to
the net. <smile>
: Dan wrote:
: > Wow, do you ever get any viruses or spyware on that system, Ad?
: >
: >
: On the Amiga? No, Spyware was not really a thing on the Amiga, there was
: viruses, but very few of them are about now.
the net. <smile>
: Dan wrote:
: > Wow, do you ever get any viruses or spyware on that system, Ad?
: >
: >
: On the Amiga? No, Spyware was not really a thing on the Amiga, there was
: viruses, but very few of them are about now.