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jane
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welcome back/home.
how was life without the comp'?
regards Jane
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Dan
Great, my eyes stopped burning from too much computer use and my involuntary
left eye twitch went away. I needed that vacation, I was too stressed and
now I am ready for another one. LOL!!
: Hi Dan,,
: welcome back/home.
: how was life without the comp'?
:
: regards Jane
:
:
left eye twitch went away. I needed that vacation, I was too stressed and
now I am ready for another one. LOL!!
: Hi Dan,,
: welcome back/home.
: how was life without the comp'?
:
: regards Jane
:
:
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Dan
Hopefully that will change. I only use GoBack by Roxio which is now a
Symantec product since Symantec bought the product line of GoBack from Roxio.
I agree Symantec Systemworks is like a virus. Ad, what do you think about
McAfee. The full stuff and I do not care if you slam them. LOL!!
: Dan wrote:
: > Well with crappy Symantec and their poor support I hope Microsoft can do
a
: > little better. Perhaps Symantec will shape up their act too. Now if we
can
: > only have a good competitor to Microsoft in the operating system arena
then
: > life will be good indeed. :>
:
:
: I do not use Symantec as there software is like a virus in itself, it
: seems to take over the computer. The only software I use of theirs is
: Ghost. Symantec got plenty of competition. It just that some people
: seems to buy the first package they see.
: Also plenty of free Virus checkers that work just as well if not better
: than anything symantec produce.
:
: As for OS, there is Linux which is getting more of a foot hold, it is a
: shame that the software is not available for it and that it is not easy
: to use.
:
:
: ---
: avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
: Virus Database (VPS): 0508-2, 23/02/2005
: Tested on: 24/02/2005 07:50:07
: avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software.
: http://www.avast.com
:
:
:
Symantec product since Symantec bought the product line of GoBack from Roxio.
I agree Symantec Systemworks is like a virus. Ad, what do you think about
McAfee. The full stuff and I do not care if you slam them. LOL!!
: Dan wrote:
: > Well with crappy Symantec and their poor support I hope Microsoft can do
a
: > little better. Perhaps Symantec will shape up their act too. Now if we
can
: > only have a good competitor to Microsoft in the operating system arena
then
: > life will be good indeed. :>
:
:
: I do not use Symantec as there software is like a virus in itself, it
: seems to take over the computer. The only software I use of theirs is
: Ghost. Symantec got plenty of competition. It just that some people
: seems to buy the first package they see.
: Also plenty of free Virus checkers that work just as well if not better
: than anything symantec produce.
:
: As for OS, there is Linux which is getting more of a foot hold, it is a
: shame that the software is not available for it and that it is not easy
: to use.
:
:
: ---
: avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
: Virus Database (VPS): 0508-2, 23/02/2005
: Tested on: 24/02/2005 07:50:07
: avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software.
: http://www.avast.com
:
:
:
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Dan
Thank you for your comments, Leythos. I feel you are a good man despite what
Kurt says. I think Symantec corporate products may be okay but their home
products are terrible. Likewise, I tried contacting corporate support talked
to a live person in under a minute. Now try and contact them as a home user
and you get nowhere. At least I could not even after 1 certified letter with
a return receipt to them. I have also reported Symantec scams to the FTC
(Federal Trade Commission) and they are investigating and may file charges
against the Symantec Corporation. I DO NOT MESS AROUND! Have a nice day!
GodSpeed!!!
: On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:28:47 -0700, Dan wrote:
:
: > Well with crappy Symantec and their poor support I hope Microsoft can do
: > a little better. Perhaps Symantec will shape up their act too.
:
: I've always found Symantec non-suite products to work well on our machines
: as well as our clinet machines. We only purchase the Symantec Corporate
: Edition AV products and some of the Norton AV product, never the Security
: products.
:
: > Now if we can only have a good competitor to Microsoft in the operating
: > system arena then life will be good indeed.
:
: There are plenty of OS's that are as good, the problem is not those OS's
: being on the same level, but being able to run MS applications on those
: OS's. As many version of Linux are now very good looking desktop OS's the
: only problem is that the applications don't fully support
: importing/exporting to the complementary Widnows application.
:
: As an example of how far they have come, I can give my mother in-law a
: Fedora Core 3 cd-set and she can install it as easily as Windows XP, the
: difference is that she's secure at the OS when it's done installing.
:
: Another example of how far they've come is the product called CrossOver,
: it actually allows you to run MS Office XP on a Linux box - you install
: office from the MS cd just like you do on Windows 2000/XP.
:
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:
Kurt says. I think Symantec corporate products may be okay but their home
products are terrible. Likewise, I tried contacting corporate support talked
to a live person in under a minute. Now try and contact them as a home user
and you get nowhere. At least I could not even after 1 certified letter with
a return receipt to them. I have also reported Symantec scams to the FTC
(Federal Trade Commission) and they are investigating and may file charges
against the Symantec Corporation. I DO NOT MESS AROUND! Have a nice day!
GodSpeed!!!
: On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:28:47 -0700, Dan wrote:
:
: > Well with crappy Symantec and their poor support I hope Microsoft can do
: > a little better. Perhaps Symantec will shape up their act too.
:
: I've always found Symantec non-suite products to work well on our machines
: as well as our clinet machines. We only purchase the Symantec Corporate
: Edition AV products and some of the Norton AV product, never the Security
: products.
:
: > Now if we can only have a good competitor to Microsoft in the operating
: > system arena then life will be good indeed.
:
: There are plenty of OS's that are as good, the problem is not those OS's
: being on the same level, but being able to run MS applications on those
: OS's. As many version of Linux are now very good looking desktop OS's the
: only problem is that the applications don't fully support
: importing/exporting to the complementary Widnows application.
:
: As an example of how far they have come, I can give my mother in-law a
: Fedora Core 3 cd-set and she can install it as easily as Windows XP, the
: difference is that she's secure at the OS when it's done installing.
:
: Another example of how far they've come is the product called CrossOver,
: it actually allows you to run MS Office XP on a Linux box - you install
: office from the MS cd just like you do on Windows 2000/XP.
:
: --
: (e-mail address removed)
: remove 999 in order to email me
:
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AD
Dan said:Hopefully that will change. I only use GoBack by Roxio which is now a
Symantec product since Symantec bought the product line of GoBack from Roxio.
I agree Symantec Systemworks is like a virus. Ad, what do you think about
McAfee. The full stuff and I do not care if you slam them. LOL!!
Goback is a pain in the neck if you use Ghost, as you got to disable
goback everytime you do a back up, anyway, there is not need for goback
with XP.
I never had much to do with Mcafee, my sister-in-law did buy it once ,
but took it back as it slowed down her computer.
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Lee Chapelle
Tom said:LMAO! if only they don't prop up your political/sociological point of of
view!
Meaning what?
Then you had better get improving of making spins.
What spins?
Again, people are bad; criminals, whatever because they are bad, and they
should be deemed as such, but not in a light that is favorable to ones
biased leanings. This is what you expose about yourself..
What?
Your logic is so worthless that calling it revealing would be an
understatement!
Your critique of my logic is incoherent.
Firstly, you cannot say (as you do), "I would prefer the company of some
criminals", to then say that, "that I feel negatively towards all
criminals."
Where did you get that second quote? Not from me.
It is so contradictory, and more to the point, just like the thinking kind
that you represent.
Except that it's not what I said.
You either don't like criminals, or you do, there is no picking and
choosing!
That's plainly a horrible fallacy, all criminals are not the same. Some are
very good people who made one mistake, some are evil people.
I know you'll reply with (yet) another spin. (are you a Bush supporter?)
Learn to think before you talk, that'll help.
D
Dan
Thanks for your input. I do not use Ghost and so I use Goback for the 98SE
side of my dual-boot of 98SE and XP PRO.
: Dan wrote:
: > Hopefully that will change. I only use GoBack by Roxio which is now a
: > Symantec product since Symantec bought the product line of GoBack from
Roxio.
: > I agree Symantec Systemworks is like a virus. Ad, what do you think
about
: > McAfee. The full stuff and I do not care if you slam them. LOL!!
: >
:
: Goback is a pain in the neck if you use Ghost, as you got to disable
: goback everytime you do a back up, anyway, there is not need for goback
: with XP.
: I never had much to do with Mcafee, my sister-in-law did buy it once ,
: but took it back as it slowed down her computer.
side of my dual-boot of 98SE and XP PRO.
: Dan wrote:
: > Hopefully that will change. I only use GoBack by Roxio which is now a
: > Symantec product since Symantec bought the product line of GoBack from
Roxio.
: > I agree Symantec Systemworks is like a virus. Ad, what do you think
about
: > McAfee. The full stuff and I do not care if you slam them. LOL!!
: >
:
: Goback is a pain in the neck if you use Ghost, as you got to disable
: goback everytime you do a back up, anyway, there is not need for goback
: with XP.
: I never had much to do with Mcafee, my sister-in-law did buy it once ,
: but took it back as it slowed down her computer.
A
AD
Ghost is great, it is the only decent bit of software that Symantec makes.Dan said:Thanks for your input. I do not use Ghost and so I use Goback for the 98SE
side of my dual-boot of 98SE and XP PRO.
G
Greg R
Win98 is dead and headed for the cemetery,
Don't tell me windows 98 is dead. I using it right now. I plan to
keep using it. I use it more than I do windows xp. Which I may
soon get rid of xp-getting tired of Constantly installing updates.
The reason most older software work better with 98se than with xp.
Greg R
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Leythos
Don't tell me windows 98 is dead. I using it right now. I plan to
keep using it. I use it more than I do windows xp. Which I may
soon get rid of xp-getting tired of Constantly installing updates.
The reason most older software work better with 98se than with xp.
Actually, as long as you're happy with older applications, not needing any
new bells-whistles and your computer still supports it, 98SE is fine for
many uses. Even Windows 95 can still do the same things it was able to do
10 years ago - the issue is with new software and features that people
want, which they may or may not really need.
Now, if you were supporting a business you might be in a different boat.
G
Gary S. Terhune
The reason you're installing more updates is two-fold:
1. You aren't installing many updates for 9x systems at all these days,
because Microsoft isn't issuing any--even a serious handful that they
should be issuing, IMNSHO.
2. WinXP is a much more complicated system, with much larger set of
functionalities, and exists in a world where hacking for profit is a
much larger, almost mainstream enterprise, one that I suspect is now a
primary mainstay of organized crime. Because of XPs position as the
leading Desktop OS, it gets attacked most often. Admittedly, another
part of this equation is that the underlying vulnerability in most cases
is "buffer overflow", a situation that cannot be fixed except in
piecemeal fashion until the entire core structure of Windows is changed.
Whether MS manages to solve that problem is the issue upon which
Microsoft's continued dominance depends. Until then, however, piecemeal
is the best that can be done. But *none* of that means that Win9x is any
more secure than XP. Just the opposite, in fact, when so many
vulnerabilities that have been patched in XP and 2k go unpatched in the
older
Win98, 98SE and ME *are* dead, at least in so far as being a modern
convenience. Sure, you can lock your 9x system away from the internet
and run obsolete programs--same way MS-DOS and Win95 are still used. But
that's *all* you'll be able to decently do with it by the time this year
has closed.
1. You aren't installing many updates for 9x systems at all these days,
because Microsoft isn't issuing any--even a serious handful that they
should be issuing, IMNSHO.
2. WinXP is a much more complicated system, with much larger set of
functionalities, and exists in a world where hacking for profit is a
much larger, almost mainstream enterprise, one that I suspect is now a
primary mainstay of organized crime. Because of XPs position as the
leading Desktop OS, it gets attacked most often. Admittedly, another
part of this equation is that the underlying vulnerability in most cases
is "buffer overflow", a situation that cannot be fixed except in
piecemeal fashion until the entire core structure of Windows is changed.
Whether MS manages to solve that problem is the issue upon which
Microsoft's continued dominance depends. Until then, however, piecemeal
is the best that can be done. But *none* of that means that Win9x is any
more secure than XP. Just the opposite, in fact, when so many
vulnerabilities that have been patched in XP and 2k go unpatched in the
older
Win98, 98SE and ME *are* dead, at least in so far as being a modern
convenience. Sure, you can lock your 9x system away from the internet
and run obsolete programs--same way MS-DOS and Win95 are still used. But
that's *all* you'll be able to decently do with it by the time this year
has closed.
R
Rodney
That's very reassuringly American.
feed them information, with a good dose of fear.
Michael Moore, how right you are.
| Win98, 98SE and ME *are* dead, at least in so far as being a modern
| convenience. Sure, you can lock your 9x system away from the internet
| and run obsolete programs--same way MS-DOS and Win95 are still used. But
| that's *all* you'll be able to decently do with it by the time this year
| has closed.
feed them information, with a good dose of fear.
Michael Moore, how right you are.
| Win98, 98SE and ME *are* dead, at least in so far as being a modern
| convenience. Sure, you can lock your 9x system away from the internet
| and run obsolete programs--same way MS-DOS and Win95 are still used. But
| that's *all* you'll be able to decently do with it by the time this year
| has closed.
G
Gary S. Terhune
Huh?
K
Kelly
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Gary S. Terhune
Well, that looks interesting, but I'm trying to figure out the
implication that I'm engaging in fear-mongering when I am simply stating
the facts as I see them. Just because someone isn't willing to leave
their comfort zone doesn't change the facts, and doesn't make me, or
Microsoft for that matter, a fear monger. Just because you aren't
paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you (referring to OC
hacking.) A fair amount of healthy caution seems prudent.
Really, I can't understand why people expect an OS that was developed
ten years ago, an eon in PC history, should be able to keep up with
modern devices and environments. Even Windows XP is, in many ways,
obsolete, and just filling in until the next radically different
paradigm replaces it.
Unfortunately, I have yet to see convincing evidence that such a
replacement is even near coming off the drawing boards, not one that is
as convenient, egalitarian and functional as the PC mandate requires,
without also being highly prone to unauthorized invasion.
implication that I'm engaging in fear-mongering when I am simply stating
the facts as I see them. Just because someone isn't willing to leave
their comfort zone doesn't change the facts, and doesn't make me, or
Microsoft for that matter, a fear monger. Just because you aren't
paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you (referring to OC
hacking.) A fair amount of healthy caution seems prudent.
Really, I can't understand why people expect an OS that was developed
ten years ago, an eon in PC history, should be able to keep up with
modern devices and environments. Even Windows XP is, in many ways,
obsolete, and just filling in until the next radically different
paradigm replaces it.
Unfortunately, I have yet to see convincing evidence that such a
replacement is even near coming off the drawing boards, not one that is
as convenient, egalitarian and functional as the PC mandate requires,
without also being highly prone to unauthorized invasion.
D
Dan
I agree that older software works better with 98SE. Newer software usually
runs better on XPPRO. In addition, newer games should soon run better on
XPPRO. since companies such as ATI, Creative, and NVIDIA have eliminated or
have almost eliminated new drivers for 98, 98SE and ME. I have an ATI 9200
128 mb 8x AGP graphics card and the last time I checked the latest driver for
98SE using a Millenium driver was last year.
: On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:27:54 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
:
: >Win98 is dead and headed for the cemetery,
:
: Don't tell me windows 98 is dead. I using it right now. I plan to
: keep using it. I use it more than I do windows xp. Which I may
: soon get rid of xp-getting tired of Constantly installing updates.
: The reason most older software work better with 98se than with xp.
:
:
:
: Greg R
runs better on XPPRO. In addition, newer games should soon run better on
XPPRO. since companies such as ATI, Creative, and NVIDIA have eliminated or
have almost eliminated new drivers for 98, 98SE and ME. I have an ATI 9200
128 mb 8x AGP graphics card and the last time I checked the latest driver for
98SE using a Millenium driver was last year.
: On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:27:54 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
:
: >Win98 is dead and headed for the cemetery,
:
: Don't tell me windows 98 is dead. I using it right now. I plan to
: keep using it. I use it more than I do windows xp. Which I may
: soon get rid of xp-getting tired of Constantly installing updates.
: The reason most older software work better with 98se than with xp.
:
:
:
: Greg R
D
Dan
Very true. One problem with XPPRO. is that it has so many more services.
This is a double-edged sword. Sure, the services are nice and allow users to
do more than they would in 98SE. However, having more services linked with
the Internet allow more access points for hackers to penetrate the computer
and/or network.
: On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:00:46 -0500, Greg R wrote:
:
: > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:27:54 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
: >
: >>Win98 is dead and headed for the cemetery,
: >
: > Don't tell me windows 98 is dead. I using it right now. I plan to
: > keep using it. I use it more than I do windows xp. Which I may
: > soon get rid of xp-getting tired of Constantly installing updates.
: > The reason most older software work better with 98se than with xp.
:
: Actually, as long as you're happy with older applications, not needing any
: new bells-whistles and your computer still supports it, 98SE is fine for
: many uses. Even Windows 95 can still do the same things it was able to do
: 10 years ago - the issue is with new software and features that people
: want, which they may or may not really need.
:
: Now, if you were supporting a business you might be in a different boat.
:
:
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:
This is a double-edged sword. Sure, the services are nice and allow users to
do more than they would in 98SE. However, having more services linked with
the Internet allow more access points for hackers to penetrate the computer
and/or network.
: On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:00:46 -0500, Greg R wrote:
:
: > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:27:54 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
: >
: >>Win98 is dead and headed for the cemetery,
: >
: > Don't tell me windows 98 is dead. I using it right now. I plan to
: > keep using it. I use it more than I do windows xp. Which I may
: > soon get rid of xp-getting tired of Constantly installing updates.
: > The reason most older software work better with 98se than with xp.
:
: Actually, as long as you're happy with older applications, not needing any
: new bells-whistles and your computer still supports it, 98SE is fine for
: many uses. Even Windows 95 can still do the same things it was able to do
: 10 years ago - the issue is with new software and features that people
: want, which they may or may not really need.
:
: Now, if you were supporting a business you might be in a different boat.
:
:
: --
: (e-mail address removed)
: remove 999 in order to email me
:
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Richard G. Harper
Unfortunately there are those who just believe that having bought a license
to use an operating system entitles them to support (defined as, "I don't
like this so fix it RIGHT NOW!") forever. There are also those people with
goofy and unsupportable expectations that Microsoft will make Windows 98
"open source" or re-release it in a "classic" or "final updates" version
before support finally ends.
I just quit arguing with 'em unless it's on a factual basis. If they say
something wrong I chime in and correct it. Otherwise I let 'em dream
whatever dream they want to.
P.S. When did the Windows Update site change to require SP1 or SP2 for
Windows XP updates? I knew they said it was coming soon but I missed
exactly when that happened.
--
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* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
to use an operating system entitles them to support (defined as, "I don't
like this so fix it RIGHT NOW!") forever. There are also those people with
goofy and unsupportable expectations that Microsoft will make Windows 98
"open source" or re-release it in a "classic" or "final updates" version
before support finally ends.
I just quit arguing with 'em unless it's on a factual basis. If they say
something wrong I chime in and correct it. Otherwise I let 'em dream
whatever dream they want to.
P.S. When did the Windows Update site change to require SP1 or SP2 for
Windows XP updates? I knew they said it was coming soon but I missed
exactly when that happened.
--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
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Dan
I am constantly petitioning Microsoft for more 98SE support Gary. Microsoft
recently released 2 critical updates for me that are not available for the
general public. "Admittedly, another
part of this equation is that the underlying vulnerability in most cases
is "buffer overflow", a situation that cannot be fixed except in
piecemeal fashion until the entire core structure of Windows is changed" --
Gary S. Terhune
That is why we need a brand new operating system core that no longer has any
legacy support and can be made almost hacker proof. As Chris Quirke, MVP has
mentioned the underlying maintenance operating system of NT (New Technology)
must change to something other than a MS-DOS (Microsoft Disk Operating
System) shell and have something radically new and different that would be
super-secure at its core. I hope Microsoft can make this change with
Longhorn or failing to accomplish that then hopefully with Windows Blackcomb.
(Windows Blackcomb estimated release date of 2010+ according to PC today
p.9 -- February issue) Have a nice day!
: The reason you're installing more updates is two-fold:
:
: 1. You aren't installing many updates for 9x systems at all these days,
: because Microsoft isn't issuing any--even a serious handful that they
: should be issuing, IMNSHO.
:
: 2. WinXP is a much more complicated system, with much larger set of
: functionalities, and exists in a world where hacking for profit is a
: much larger, almost mainstream enterprise, one that I suspect is now a
: primary mainstay of organized crime. Because of XPs position as the
: leading Desktop OS, it gets attacked most often. Admittedly, another
: part of this equation is that the underlying vulnerability in most cases
: is "buffer overflow", a situation that cannot be fixed except in
: piecemeal fashion until the entire core structure of Windows is changed.
: Whether MS manages to solve that problem is the issue upon which
: Microsoft's continued dominance depends. Until then, however, piecemeal
: is the best that can be done. But *none* of that means that Win9x is any
: more secure than XP. Just the opposite, in fact, when so many
: vulnerabilities that have been patched in XP and 2k go unpatched in the
: older
:
: Win98, 98SE and ME *are* dead, at least in so far as being a modern
: convenience. Sure, you can lock your 9x system away from the internet
: and run obsolete programs--same way MS-DOS and Win95 are still used. But
: that's *all* you'll be able to decently do with it by the time this year
: has closed.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
:
: : > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:27:54 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
: >
: > >Win98 is dead and headed for the cemetery,
: >
: > Don't tell me windows 98 is dead. I using it right now. I plan to
: > keep using it. I use it more than I do windows xp. Which I may
: > soon get rid of xp-getting tired of Constantly installing updates.
: > The reason most older software work better with 98se than with xp.
: >
: >
: >
: > Greg R
:
recently released 2 critical updates for me that are not available for the
general public. "Admittedly, another
part of this equation is that the underlying vulnerability in most cases
is "buffer overflow", a situation that cannot be fixed except in
piecemeal fashion until the entire core structure of Windows is changed" --
Gary S. Terhune
That is why we need a brand new operating system core that no longer has any
legacy support and can be made almost hacker proof. As Chris Quirke, MVP has
mentioned the underlying maintenance operating system of NT (New Technology)
must change to something other than a MS-DOS (Microsoft Disk Operating
System) shell and have something radically new and different that would be
super-secure at its core. I hope Microsoft can make this change with
Longhorn or failing to accomplish that then hopefully with Windows Blackcomb.
(Windows Blackcomb estimated release date of 2010+ according to PC today
p.9 -- February issue) Have a nice day!
: The reason you're installing more updates is two-fold:
:
: 1. You aren't installing many updates for 9x systems at all these days,
: because Microsoft isn't issuing any--even a serious handful that they
: should be issuing, IMNSHO.
:
: 2. WinXP is a much more complicated system, with much larger set of
: functionalities, and exists in a world where hacking for profit is a
: much larger, almost mainstream enterprise, one that I suspect is now a
: primary mainstay of organized crime. Because of XPs position as the
: leading Desktop OS, it gets attacked most often. Admittedly, another
: part of this equation is that the underlying vulnerability in most cases
: is "buffer overflow", a situation that cannot be fixed except in
: piecemeal fashion until the entire core structure of Windows is changed.
: Whether MS manages to solve that problem is the issue upon which
: Microsoft's continued dominance depends. Until then, however, piecemeal
: is the best that can be done. But *none* of that means that Win9x is any
: more secure than XP. Just the opposite, in fact, when so many
: vulnerabilities that have been patched in XP and 2k go unpatched in the
: older
:
: Win98, 98SE and ME *are* dead, at least in so far as being a modern
: convenience. Sure, you can lock your 9x system away from the internet
: and run obsolete programs--same way MS-DOS and Win95 are still used. But
: that's *all* you'll be able to decently do with it by the time this year
: has closed.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
:
: : > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:27:54 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
: >
: > >Win98 is dead and headed for the cemetery,
: >
: > Don't tell me windows 98 is dead. I using it right now. I plan to
: > keep using it. I use it more than I do windows xp. Which I may
: > soon get rid of xp-getting tired of Constantly installing updates.
: > The reason most older software work better with 98se than with xp.
: >
: >
: >
: > Greg R
:
D
Dan
Rodney, Gary is being practical and not a fear-monger. I would apologize for
that statement if I were you. Remember, to think something fully through
before clicking send. Gary is teaching me this when I mistakenly insulted
Sandi, MVP. After a profuse apology things thankfully were okay between us.
Have an awesome day!
: That's very reassuringly American.
: feed them information, with a good dose of fear.
: Michael Moore, how right you are.
:
:
: | Win98, 98SE and ME *are* dead, at least in so far as being a modern
: | convenience. Sure, you can lock your 9x system away from the internet
: | and run obsolete programs--same way MS-DOS and Win95 are still used. But
: | that's *all* you'll be able to decently do with it by the time this year
: | has closed.
:
:
:
that statement if I were you. Remember, to think something fully through
before clicking send. Gary is teaching me this when I mistakenly insulted
Sandi, MVP. After a profuse apology things thankfully were okay between us.
Have an awesome day!
: That's very reassuringly American.
: feed them information, with a good dose of fear.
: Michael Moore, how right you are.
:
:
: | Win98, 98SE and ME *are* dead, at least in so far as being a modern
: | convenience. Sure, you can lock your 9x system away from the internet
: | and run obsolete programs--same way MS-DOS and Win95 are still used. But
: | that's *all* you'll be able to decently do with it by the time this year
: | has closed.
:
:
:
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