What do YOU expect from Vista SP1 ??

[Kerry Brown]

Logic? Reasonable dialogue? On usenet? In one of the most troll
infested newsgroups?

Come on, Kerry, you've been here long enough to know better than that!
;-)

You're right logic and reason are beyond some people. I reserve Sundays for
baiting the trolls. It didn't work this week :-(

 

[Frank]

yeah he's a troll disguised as a mvp

Logic? Reasonable dialogue? On usenet? In one of the most troll
infested newsgroups?

Come on, Kerry, you've been here long enough to know better than that!
;-)

And you're an a*shole disguised as...well...you don't really have an
disguise do you?
You're just an a*shole!
Plain and simple.
Frank

 

[Adam Albright]

Some people see MVP and don't read any further.

There's a good reason for that. Can you figure it out?

Can any of you
dispute any of the facts in my post or are all of you on an agenda to
denigrate Vista and MVPs at the expense of logic and reasonable dialogue?

The only agenda I've ever seen here is for fanboys to blindly defend
Microsoft. Why do you suppose that is?

 

[Adam Albright]

You're right logic and reason are beyond some people. I reserve Sundays for
baiting the trolls. It didn't work this week :-(

And you were just wondering why most MVPs that post here aren't liked.

 

[Adam Albright]

What the heck is a Voldermort? ;-)

Sounds like rare German sausage.

 

[Adam Albright]

Maybe if you grew some brains you could debate better.

Typical fanboy reply. You can't debate for s*it to you resort to put
downs.

Sound familiar?[/QUOTE]

Actually all you fanboys sound alike. Your logic; problem, what
problem, I don't have the problem, ergo there is no problem.

That's why pictures like this describe fanboys perfectly:

http://www.mindfulgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/See no Evil.jpg

 

[Adam Albright]

In YOUR opinion.

In everyone's opinion in this thread except you![/QUOTE]

Now you're trying to speak for everyone. Got any more tricks?

Source please?

The same one you got most people don't have problems with Vista.

Oh brother! You CLEARLY have no idea what you are talking about.

You seem to be projecting like Frankie. Maybe if you work together
you can round up a few more fanboys and combined maybe you can talk
some insurance company into giving you a group rate for treating
mental disorders.

 

[Adam Albright]

Since when? That's all you do here.


There is one camp (you) that doesn't understand software engineering AT
ALL, and has no clue about the process.

Odd, my employers paid me a fat salary big enough for me to retire
shortly after my 40th birthday, about 20 years ago and bozos like you
are still working. Hmm...

There there are people who DO understand (me).

I understand you perfectly. ===> Blowhard. You're in good company you
have many equals that share that "talent" here.

ROTFLMAO!

 

[Adam Albright]

Yeah, good idea. The guy is a hideous troll.

Even if that was true, you got to admit I sure can make blowhards like
YOU dance.

 

[ray]

Previous "Service Packs" have often been software rewrites - in
file size nearly a re-install. Those rewrites have benefited
from an infinity of combinations of hardware, software, user
settings/errors, and from an army of professional malware
defenders fighting guerrillas who attack vulnerabilities just
for the fun of it.

Considering past SPs, I wonder what Vista SP1 will include.

My guess is that SP1 will not add much in the way of security,
but will push it further into the background and less intrusive.
Perhaps massive usage data will enable security functions to be
safely trimmed and made faster for most.

Will SP1 add stability? Vista overall seems to be very stable
for most, though - again - perhaps massive usage data will
support further stability enhancements.

What about functionality? I've seen interest in capabilities not
available from the present Vista - perhaps some will be added
once usage data suggests it's safe to do so.

And speed? Well, my Vista installation is as fast as XP Pro, but
everyone wants more speed. I think this is a primary goal for
Microsoft, who knows that consumers want faster operation -
particularly boot and shutdown times. The only thing worse than
"slow" is "STOP!", so there are pauses throughout Vista to
permit checks and cross-checks. Experience will permit
streamlining of such precautions and I therefore expect Vista
SP1 to "take off".

Microsoft collects massive data because most computers call
home, and MS information collectors watch discussions, monitor
corporate usage, are intimate with major software companies, and
collect information from professional repair services. With all
that since Vista was released, I'd guess that plans for SP1 are
pretty firm by now.

What do YOU expect from Vista SP1?

And, of course, when do you think SP1 will be released to
non-Betaphiles like me?

Henry

-------------------
PS
Though Microsoft bashing is an international sport, it's one of
the world's most successful companies and a monument to American
entrepreneurism and brainpower (credit goes to the Israeli
Microsoft groups for much of the latter). Such companies as
Microsoft, Boeing, Walmart, Dell, Exxon, Verizon, and GE take a
lot of heat, but I admire and respect such achievement.

To be quite Frank (pun intended) - I don't expect it to be fully
functional yet with sp1, bases on the magnitude of the problems I see
reported. You'll recall that win98 took sp2 before it really worked.

 

[Frank]

Now you're trying to speak for everyone. Got any more tricks?




The same one you got most people don't have problems with Vista.



You seem to be projecting like Frankie. Maybe if you work together
you can round up a few more fanboys and combined maybe you can talk
some insurance company into giving you a group rate for treating
mental disorders.

You sure do have a big mouth...bet you can easily stuff both feet into
it at the same time.
Don't forget to take them out so you can take your daily meds ok?
Frank

 

[Frank]

Actually all you fanboys sound alike. Your logic; problem, what
problem, I don't have the problem, ergo there is no problem.

That's why pictures like this describe fanboys perfectly:

http://www.mindfulgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/See no Evil.jpg

You need to stop public posting pictures of your children.
You're embarrassing yourself and them.
Frank

 

[Frank]

And you were just wondering why most MVPs that post here aren't liked.

Ha! You're one of about 2-4 losers who post here and don't like and
stalk MVP's.
The rest of this ng appreciates all they they do.
Grow up you loser.
Frank

 

[Frank]

To be quite Frank (pun intended) - I don't expect it to be fully
functional yet with sp1, bases on the magnitude of the problems I see
reported. You'll recall that win98 took sp2 before it really worked.

Seeing as how you don't have a ray (pun intended) of hope of ever using
Vista I'd say your thoughts are totally irrelevant.
Peddle your linux crap somewhere else, ok?
Frank

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

"jet aircraft"
Manufacturers routinely send out Service Bulletins and other
information, much relating to safety issues.

"but they don't have a pattern of getting released only to undergo a
major recall"
Yes, they do.
Planes routinely get grounded until a fix is made after the problem is
blamed on an accident.
Many aircraft accidents directly result in changes designed to prevent
a reoccurrence of a similar accident.

I am less familiar with some of the other industries, but even some of
those have recalls months or even years later.

Your comparison to these things falls flat when reality intervenes.

Or can you prove none of those items have been delivered with a life
threatening flaw (without serious flaws.)?

 

[Lang Murphy]

The old others screw up, so Microsoft can too excuse.

<snip>

Uh... what?!?

Lang

 

[Lang Murphy]

Previous "Service Packs" have often been software rewrites - in file size
nearly a re-install. Those rewrites have benefited from an infinity of
combinations of hardware, software, user settings/errors, and from an army
of professional malware defenders fighting guerrillas who attack
vulnerabilities just for the fun of it.

Considering past SPs, I wonder what Vista SP1 will include.

My guess is that SP1 will not add much in the way of security, but will
push it further into the background and less intrusive. Perhaps massive
usage data will enable security functions to be safely trimmed and made
faster for most.

Will SP1 add stability? Vista overall seems to be very stable for most,
though - again - perhaps massive usage data will support further stability
enhancements.

What about functionality? I've seen interest in capabilities not available
from the present Vista - perhaps some will be added once usage data
suggests it's safe to do so.

And speed? Well, my Vista installation is as fast as XP Pro, but everyone
wants more speed. I think this is a primary goal for Microsoft, who knows
that consumers want faster operation - particularly boot and shutdown
times. The only thing worse than "slow" is "STOP!", so there are pauses
throughout Vista to permit checks and cross-checks. Experience will permit
streamlining of such precautions and I therefore expect Vista SP1 to "take
off".

Microsoft collects massive data because most computers call home, and MS
information collectors watch discussions, monitor corporate usage, are
intimate with major software companies, and collect information from
professional repair services. With all that since Vista was released, I'd
guess that plans for SP1 are pretty firm by now.

What do YOU expect from Vista SP1?

And, of course, when do you think SP1 will be released to non-Betaphiles
like me?

Henry

-------------------
PS
Though Microsoft bashing is an international sport, it's one of the
world's most successful companies and a monument to American
entrepreneurism and brainpower (credit goes to the Israeli Microsoft
groups for much of the latter). Such companies as Microsoft, Boeing,
Walmart, Dell, Exxon, Verizon, and GE take a lot of heat, but I admire and
respect such achievement.

I don't -expect- anything... what I'd -like- to see in SP1 is better file
copy/move and a working native CD/DVD writing functionality. (Preparing
disc... never works for me. I don't use the native tools for this. Not that
most folks would, but, geez, guys, if you're gonna offer the functionality,
make sure it works.) Other than those two nits... I'm pretty happy with
Vista. Use it every day.

Lang

Lang

 

[Adam Albright]

Ha! You're one of about 2-4 losers who post here and don't like and
stalk MVP's.
The rest of this ng appreciates all they they do.
Grow up you loser.

What the typical MVP does here:

1. Scold users saying they're posting to the wrong group.
2. Endlessly repeating it's a driver issue.
3. Saying if you don't like Vista nobody forced you to upgrade.
4. One Bozo claims I'm stalking him.
5. Imply the OP doesn't know what they're doing.
6. If they say anything remotely on topic at all, it's a quick cut
and paste job.

 

[Ian Betts]

And you trolling does better. You can't help so you troll. Mindless jerk.

 

[Frank]

Adam Albright wrote:

What the typical MVP does here:

1. Scold users saying they're posting to the wrong group.
So?

2. Endlessly repeating it's a driver issue.

Often it is drivers. That's very common. Ask any Nvidia users. So what?

3. Saying if you don't like Vista nobody forced you to upgrade.

Someone forced someone to upgrade? I don't think so. But ranting in here
and not detailing the problem is well...a problem.

4. One Bozo claims I'm stalking him.

You are and we know it. We've all watched you do it so stop denying it.

5. Imply the OP doesn't know what they're doing.

Imply...well many times OP's don't know what they're are doing. A lot of
users thought Vista was just XP+eye-candy...and now find out it isn't.

6. If they say anything remotely on topic at all, it's a quick cut
and paste job.

You mean they cut & paste the answer?
So?
Frank