Websites With Java Menus

J

JCO

If your on a site that has the menus written in Java, what is the simplest
way to allow your computer to see everything and make use of the Java menu
links?
 
M

Murray

Do you mean Java or do you mean javascript? Can you show me an example?
And I guess I don't understand what you mean with "see everything and make
use of the Java menu links"....
 
T

Tina Clarke

JCO said:
If your on a site that has the menus written in Java, what is the simplest
way to allow your computer to see everything and make use of the Java menu
links?

You need java installed on your computer.
write the webmaster and ask how on earth do they expect some users to
navigate without text links? - they should always be included.
Fallbacks are sitemaps - which should always be included
failing that if they have a search box ...

this just highlights bad design.

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T

Terry Stockdale

The menus on that site are "Javascript", not "Java." The common
factor between Javascript and Java is that they both have the letters
J, a , v, and a in their name -- otherwise they are completely
different.

Java is a programming language with API, created by Sun Microsystems.
It CAN be used on websites. It can also be used to provide complete
PC programs, such as SageTV, which is a fantastic home theater PC
software (see my website for comments on my HTPC). Sun makes Java
available for free for a number of different computer systems. You
can get it at www.java.com .

Javascript was created by Netscape for use in web browsers. Although
there is a standard to the language, each browser manufacturer has to
write their own implementation of Javascript.

Terry
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http://www.terrystockdale.com
 
S

Steve Easton

I would say pretty much the way you've done it.
Unless I misinterpreted your question.

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........................with a computer
 
A

Andrew Murray

The user needs Sun Java or Microsoft Virtual Java Machine. (was included in
Windows below Windows XP, but XP doesn't include it as per the outcome of a
lawsuit from Sun Systems against Microsoft (something about monopolising the
market....AGAIN).
 
J

JCO

Okay, if these menus are just JavaScript's, then why are some people having
problems seeing them.
Their browser should display them with no problems (unless possibly not
using IE 6 but even FireFox lets you see them fine).

What do most people, that can't see the menus, have to do to see these
menus?
 
T

Tom Pepper Willett

Perhaps they must enable "active scripting" in the Internet Zone?

--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
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FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
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Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-us;fp10se
===
| Okay, if these menus are just JavaScript's, then why are some people
having
| problems seeing them.
| Their browser should display them with no problems (unless possibly not
| using IE 6 but even FireFox lets you see them fine).
|
| What do most people, that can't see the menus, have to do to see these
| menus?
|
|
| | > The menus on that site are "Javascript", not "Java." The common
| > factor between Javascript and Java is that they both have the letters
| > J, a , v, and a in their name -- otherwise they are completely
| > different.
| >
| > Java is a programming language with API, created by Sun Microsystems.
| > It CAN be used on websites. It can also be used to provide complete
| > PC programs, such as SageTV, which is a fantastic home theater PC
| > software (see my website for comments on my HTPC). Sun makes Java
| > available for free for a number of different computer systems. You
| > can get it at www.java.com .
| >
| > Javascript was created by Netscape for use in web browsers. Although
| > there is a standard to the language, each browser manufacturer has to
| > write their own implementation of Javascript.
| >
| > Terry
| > Visit my computer tips, coffee pages, forums and more at:
| > http://www.terrystockdale.com
| >
| > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:26:23 GMT, " JCO" <[email protected]>
| > wrote:
| >
| > >Example is on this site... the menus
| > >http://dfwtejanos.com
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >| > >> Do you mean Java or do you mean javascript? Can you show me an
| example?
| > >> And I guess I don't understand what you mean with "see everything and
| make
| > >> use of the Java menu links"....
| > >>
| > >> --
| > >> Murray
| > >> ============
| > >>
| > >> | > >> > If your on a site that has the menus written in Java, what is the
| > >simplest
| > >> > way to allow your computer to see everything and make use of the
Java
| > >menu
| > >> > links?
| > >> >
| > >> >
| > >>
| > >>
| > >
| >
|
|
 
J

JCO

Your just telling me that I should use HTML & DHTML instead of the
JavaScripts.... Right?
And sense I need the header (menus) to propagate to all pages, I must
incorporate Dynamic Web?

I tried this before and failed in making it work. That is why I went to a
3rd party tool, otherwise DHTML is what I would of preferred. FrontPage
needs to incorporate a cascading menu creator without having to do all this.
It is as simple as that.
 
J

JCO

Where are those settings at. I'm looking under Tools>Internet
Options>Advance but not sure what items can make you see (or not see) these
JavaScript's.

Unless your thinking of a firewall that stops JavaScript's from running?
 
T

Tom Pepper Willett

Internet Properties | Security tab | Internet Zone...and look through the
options. I believe this is automatically disabled with WinXP Sp2.
--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-us;fp10se
===
| Where are those settings at. I'm looking under Tools>Internet
| Options>Advance but not sure what items can make you see (or not see)
these
| JavaScript's.
|
| Unless your thinking of a firewall that stops JavaScript's from running?
|
|
| | > Perhaps they must enable "active scripting" in the Internet Zone?
| >
| > --
| > ===
| > Tom "Pepper" Willett
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > ---
| > About FrontPage 2003:
| > http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| > FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
| > http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| > Understanding FrontPage:
| > http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
| > FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-us;fp10se
| > ===
| > | > | Okay, if these menus are just JavaScript's, then why are some people
| > having
| > | problems seeing them.
| > | Their browser should display them with no problems (unless possibly
not
| > | using IE 6 but even FireFox lets you see them fine).
| > |
| > | What do most people, that can't see the menus, have to do to see these
| > | menus?
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > The menus on that site are "Javascript", not "Java." The common
| > | > factor between Javascript and Java is that they both have the
letters
| > | > J, a , v, and a in their name -- otherwise they are completely
| > | > different.
| > | >
| > | > Java is a programming language with API, created by Sun
Microsystems.
| > | > It CAN be used on websites. It can also be used to provide complete
| > | > PC programs, such as SageTV, which is a fantastic home theater PC
| > | > software (see my website for comments on my HTPC). Sun makes Java
| > | > available for free for a number of different computer systems. You
| > | > can get it at www.java.com .
| > | >
| > | > Javascript was created by Netscape for use in web browsers.
Although
| > | > there is a standard to the language, each browser manufacturer has
to
| > | > write their own implementation of Javascript.
| > | >
| > | > Terry
| > | > Visit my computer tips, coffee pages, forums and more at:
| > | > http://www.terrystockdale.com
| > | >
| > | > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:26:23 GMT, " JCO" <[email protected]>
| > | > wrote:
| > | >
| > | > >Example is on this site... the menus
| > | > >http://dfwtejanos.com
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >| > | > >> Do you mean Java or do you mean javascript? Can you show me an
| > | example?
| > | > >> And I guess I don't understand what you mean with "see everything
| and
| > | make
| > | > >> use of the Java menu links"....
| > | > >>
| > | > >> --
| > | > >> Murray
| > | > >> ============
| > | > >>
| > | > >> | > | > >> > If your on a site that has the menus written in Java, what is
the
| > | > >simplest
| > | > >> > way to allow your computer to see everything and make use of
the
| > Java
| > | > >menu
| > | > >> > links?
| > | > >> >
| > | > >> >
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
J

JCO

Yes I understand the MS Issues with Java but these are JavaScripts that
creates the menus. It seems that all browsers should be able to interpret
them with out an installation of Java?
 
M

Murray

Your just telling me that I should use HTML & DHTML instead of the
JavaScripts.... Right?

dHTML is HTML and javascript.

Can you show me the page that people can't see? That would allow me to
diagnose the problem better than just guessing.
 
W

Windsun

Some people turn off scripting, which includes Javascript.

That is why we are now going to all CSS menus.
 
J

JCO

Yes I did find a section under Scripting that can be disable... which turns
these features off.
However, I think it affects WindowsXP that only has SP1. Once SP2 or a
critical update is done, this should be resolved. Then again, I'm reading
so much....I'm confused. To much, right after Easter.
 
J

JCO

By CSS (Cascading Style Sheets) then your talking HTML and DHTML (dynamic
templates) to create menus right?
 

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