Vuescan with the Elite 5400, what is current state?

D

Dierk Haasis

You may wish to follow your own advice and read your answer again
because it doesn't make sense...

My answer did make sense as it was consistent. It may be - and I am
relying on your cogent explanation - that my facts were wrong.

The question put forward was inconsistent as it asked something the
original post already did answer by stating that infra-red cleaning
[see, I get more careful] and Grain Dissolver are dependent in
Minolta's sw (implying they are not in VS, which is right).
 
D

Don

You may wish to follow your own advice and read your answer again
because it doesn't make sense...

My answer did make sense as it was consistent. It may be - and I am
relying on your cogent explanation - that my facts were wrong.

The question put forward was inconsistent as it asked something the
original post already did answer by stating that infra-red cleaning
[see, I get more careful] and Grain Dissolver are dependent in
Minolta's sw (implying they are not in VS, which is right).

No, the original question was quite clear, and I quote:
Can Vuescan do better, and how?

The key word being "better". The advantage of separating GD becomes
insignificant if at the same time you lose ICE?

Therefore, separating GD is one thing but to confuse ICE with mediocre
VueScan's so-called "IR cleaning" is - to put this in German context -
like confusing a Porsche with a Trabi!

With apologies to Trabi, of course, because I don't want to give an
impression I'm insulting the Trabi by equating it with VueScan. ;o)

Don.
 
J

Jumm

snip........
Therefore, separating GD is one thing but to confuse ICE with mediocre
VueScan's so-called "IR cleaning" is - to put this in German context -
like confusing a Porsche with a Trabi!

With apologies to Trabi, of course, because I don't want to give an
impression I'm insulting the Trabi by equating it with VueScan. ;o)

Don.

Was that cheap shot necessary? No one has responded to your last few
provocations. I've been lurking here a year, long enough to see your
troll-like compulsion at work. One can only hope that the others have kill
filtered you as I am now about to.
Jim
 
D

Don

snip........

Was that cheap shot necessary?

Yup, essential! ;o)

And what do you mean "cheap"? I thought it was precious! ;o)

Seriously though, may I draw your attention to the smiley following
the original comment?
No one has responded to your last few provocations.

Correction: Only VueScan devotees consider these (for them)
uncomfortable *facts* "provocations". They'd rather suppress the
truth.

The failure of VueScan cheerleaders to respond is, as a matter of
fact, very welcome (see below) because most previous "responses" were
largely devoid of facts.
One can only hope that the others have kill
filtered you as I am now about to.

Which is exactly what I myself have repeatedly suggested! Enjoy!

Don.
 
R

ramona

Thanks Fernando for your great answers. Normally I would try out a sw to
find these answers myself. But VueScan's documentation and user
interface are challenging to understand and use, to say the least. There
is never any description what the program is doing with each setting,
and an user never knows whether it is controlling the hw or mugging with
the sw. VueScan may be perfect for those who are willing to accept the
program's attitude of "figure it out yourself, dummy" or "just trust
me". But in order to look underneath the hood, it would have taken me a
lot of time and effort to experiment to find the answers. That's why
this ng and other BBs are helpful, provided I come across posters like
you and Don, etc. who are unbiased, willing to tell both the good and
the bad, and with context. Thanks again.
 
A

Alex Stols

The VueScan results are not very good (I will probably post them
tomorrow), but then there are other issues with it in combination
with
the DSE-5400. The results on my LS-2000 used to be superior to
NikonScan's, so there is probably still some tweaking needed with the
5400.
Hello Bart,

Did you post the results with Vuescan yet? If so, I missed them.
Where did you put them?

Regards,
Alex
(alexUNDERSCOREstolsATxs4all.nl)
 
D

Don

That's why
this ng and other BBs are helpful, provided I come across posters like
you and Don, etc. who are unbiased, willing to tell both the good and
the bad, and with context. Thanks again.

Thank you (that's all I'm trying to do, having benefited from the NG
myself) and you're welcome.

Unfortunately, many VueScan fans are apparently far too touchy and
insecure to realize this. :-(

Don.
 
F

Fernando

Thanks Fernando for your great answers. Normally I would try out a sw to
find these answers myself. But VueScan's documentation and user
interface are challenging to understand and use, to say the least. There
is never any description what the program is doing with each setting,
and an user never knows whether it is controlling the hw or mugging with
the sw. VueScan may be perfect for those who are willing to accept the
program's attitude of "figure it out yourself, dummy" or "just trust
me". But in order to look underneath the hood, it would have taken me a
lot of time and effort to experiment to find the answers.

I see that. Unfortunately, even the very pricey Silverfast AI (that I
consider the best scanning software ever) lacks in the documentation
department. By reading it many times and experimenting, you get it in
the end, but better documentation never hurts.

I like Vuescan a lot whith other scanners of mine (Epson 2450,
Polaroid SS120), but at present, I don't recommend it with the Minolta
DSE5400: it simply can't deliver the quality this scanner is capable
of.
If your budget allows it, try Silverfast AI 6 (not SE: at that point,
you may better stay with M.S.U.). It really extracts all the quality
from the 5400, that is a very, very capable machine.
But try the demo first: it has issues on my machine, freezing up
without apparent reasons. :(

In the meanwhile, myself and other Vuescan users will continue to try
and convince Ed Hamrick that DSE5400 support should improve quite a
bit.
Trying, can't hurt. :)

Bye,

Fernando
 
W

Wilfred van der Vegte

Vuescan does a better job both in AF (much faster, and a better
in-focus percentage) and in MF (better user interface, with numeric
values. Still, Silverfast's MF interface is by far the best).

I'm sorry - I'm a bit late with my reaction because I was away for a few
days, but could someone enlghten me about this 'better user interface'
that VueScan has for manually focusing the DSE 5400 (or any other
scanner)? It seems I missed something because I see only a field where I
can enter a numerical value and I don't see any way how VueScan might be
able to give me feedback about focusing ...
 

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