Vista judged and found to be

[Dan S.]

slow, cumbersome, unfriendly to other Windows OSes when networked,
unfriendly to MS powertoys, yet still elegent in in its GUI (when it
finally gets around to it) -- one might say, almost Macish.

Yurs,
Dan

 

[Bill Lang]

On Sat 23 Feb 2008 11:50:06p, Dan S.
([email protected]) wrote

slow, cumbersome, unfriendly to other Windows OSes when
networked, unfriendly to MS powertoys, yet still elegent in in
its GUI (when it finally gets around to it) -- one might say,
almost Macish.

My experience was that the first month with Vista sucked. After
that, it was pretty much all good.

 

[tom_sawyer70]

slow, cumbersome, unfriendly to other Windows OSes when networked,
unfriendly to MS powertoys, yet still elegent in in its GUI (when it
finally gets around to it) -- one might say, almost Macish.

Yurs,
Dan

What kind of hardware do you have? I'm curious because I just bought
my mom a PC and since she's rather far away, I went with a mid-level
dual proc and 2 GB RAM.

Although, admittedly, as I read this, I wonder why I lost the argument
with myself to give her a Windows OS when the "recommended" RAM is 2
GB just to boot the GD thing and have it perform at a somewhat
acceptable level.

I guess, if nothing else, I'll convert her to Linux when she relocates
and she'll have a screaming fast PC.

 

[OrangeDood]

slow, cumbersome, unfriendly to other Windows OSes when networked,
unfriendly to MS powertoys, yet still elegent in in its GUI (when it
finally gets around to it) -- one might say, almost Macish.

So it's a shitty rip-off of a Mac.

Why not just buy a Mac in the first place and be done with it? Stop
****ing around.

Cheers,
--Jeff

 

[Mick Murphy]

Here is a simple way to Network XP and vista.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

Permissions/Share info is there as well.

If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer
sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall.

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be
asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer
from an XP computer.

Also, run the XP’s Home Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard to include
Vista in your “New†Network, even if you had an XP Network set up prior to
adding a Vista computer to it.

 

[E.F. Hokie]

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:17:35 -0800 (PST), OrangeDood wrote...

So it's a shitty rip-off of a Mac.

Why not just buy a Mac in the first place and be done with it? Stop
****ing around.

Maybe he wants a computer instead of a flashy, overpriced toy?

 

[OrangeDood]

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:17:35 -0800 (PST), OrangeDood wrote...


Maybe he wants a computer instead of a flashy, overpriced toy?

Then why is Bill Gates humping their leg?

--
Cheers,
--Jeff
Read the damb FAQ.
http://www.rsfckers.com/faq.htm

"There are two major products that come out of Berkeley:
LSD and BSD. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
--Jeremy S. Anderson

 

[E.F. Hokie]

On 24 Feb 2008 08:13:17 -0500, OrangeDood wrote...

Then why is Bill Gates humping their leg?

One can learn from the GUI of a Mac without crippling the computer to
the point that it actually functions like a Mac.

 

[lein]

Then why is Bill Gates humping their leg?

He needs some competition to avoid anti-trust.

Personally, I'd take a linux running fvwm2 over a Mac any day.

 

[Tony Lima]

slow, cumbersome, unfriendly to other Windows OSes when networked,
unfriendly to MS powertoys, yet still elegent in in its GUI (when it
finally gets around to it) -- one might say, almost Macish.

Yurs,
Dan

Vista actually works pretty well once you figure out how to
turn off most of the security "features." They bog the
system down quite a bit. - Tony

 

[Bill Lang]

On Sun 24 Feb 2008 12:49:30p, lein ([email protected])
wrote

He needs some competition to avoid anti-trust.

Personally, I'd take a linux running fvwm2 over a Mac any day.

If you're savvy enough to be able to do that, you should be able to
secure and run XP or Vista in half the time and cost.

 

[Trent Woodruff]

One can learn from the GUI of a Mac without crippling the computer to
the point that it actually functions like a Mac.

You'll have to explain to this computer person how a Mac is "crippled"
while a Windows system isn't.


--


....I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When
you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I
dismiss yours.
- Stephen Roberts

 

[E.F. Hokie]

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:38:43 -0800, Trent Woodruff wrote...

You'll have to explain to this computer person how a Mac is "crippled"
while a Windows system isn't.

No, I'll not have to, in fact.

 

[lein]

On Sun 24 Feb 2008 12:49:30p, lein ([email protected])
wrote








If you're savvy enough to be able to do that, you should be able to
secure and run XP or Vista in half the time and cost.

Yes, but to make XP or Vista like linux, I'd have to add an operating
system to it.

 

[Chris Bellomy]

You'll have to explain to this computer person how a Mac is "crippled"
while a Windows system isn't.

Slick is trolling, or else he thinks that bastardized VMS is
somehow superior to BSD Unix.

 

[E.F. Hokie]

You'll have to explain to this computer person how a Mac is "crippled"
while a Windows system isn't.

Slick is trolling, or else he thinks that bastardized VMS is
somehow superior to BSD Unix.[/QUOTE]

Mostly I just find my computers to be good, useful, solid tools.

My wife's computer, a Mac, is a nice toy... but that's it.

(Yes, I'm well-aware that many people use Macs for work in very
productive ways. Said awareness is where your fishing accusation might
come into play just a little... heh.)

 

[Chris Bellomy]

Slick is trolling, or else he thinks that bastardized VMS is
somehow superior to BSD Unix.

Mostly I just find my computers to be good, useful, solid tools.

My wife's computer, a Mac, is a nice toy... but that's it.[/QUOTE]

If a computer's usefulness is measured by the applications it
can run, and how easily, then your anecdotal observation doesn't
mean much. I use a Mac in an office dominated by peecee users,
and trust me, there's nothing they do that I can't. Plus I'm
not constrained by annoying antivirus software.

(Yes, I'm well-aware that many people use Macs for work in very
productive ways. Said awareness is where your fishing accusation might
come into play just a little... heh.)

****ER.

 

[Chris Mihos]

If a computer's usefulness is measured by the applications it
can run, and how easily, then your anecdotal observation doesn't
mean much. I use a Mac in an office dominated by peecee users,
and trust me, there's nothing they do that I can't. Plus I'm
not constrained by annoying antivirus software.

The main thing that's making me lean towards a Mac for my next laptop
is the integrated linux environment. Having all the mainstream PC/Mac
apps and linux too would be pretty powerful.

 

[E.F. Hokie]

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:45:39 -0000, Chris Bellomy wrote...

Plus I'm
not constrained by annoying antivirus software.

MacHeads often toss this one out there.

Has it occurred to you that if there were more Mac users that there
might be more effort devoted toward ruining their day?

 

[E.F. Hokie]

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:48:39 -0800 (PST), Chris Mihos wrote...

The main thing that's making me lean towards a Mac for my next laptop
is the integrated linux environment. Having all the mainstream PC/Mac
apps and linux too would be pretty powerful.

If Apple started selling computers at computer prices and stopped trying
to sell the latest nouveau pop art device, they'd impress me more.

Look at the MacBook Air... what useless junk. It looks pretty, though.