Vista is a peice of %^$#@!!!!

[Guest]

read much? Of anything anyone said? First of all, SHE not, he, and I did do
research to find out what my computer needed in order to run Vista. I have
the information. Want to know what it says? System requirements: 1 GHz 32
bit or 64 bit processor, 1 GB of system memory, 40 GB hard drive w/ at least
15 gigs of available space, Support for directX 9 graphics with - WDDM driver
9which I do have), 128 mb of graphics (mine is 128 which is the minimum),
pixel shader 2.0 in hardware (yup), 32 bits per pixel (uh huh), DVD Rom
Drive, audio output, and internet access. Everything it lists, I have. I even
went to Microsoft.com/vista to check it out and make sure its what I really
wanted.
And, seriously, are you people trying to make me feel better about vista by
name calling? Don't you think that makes the experience a little bit less
than encouraging? Should I just be like, ok, I am an idiot, that guy wins!!!
or, what? What do you want? I DID my frickin research and the product still
sucks. But because I am not some techie computer geek, apparently I dont know
what computerz are or what they R 4!!!1

 

[Kerry Brown]

The only way you'll be sure is to try it.

 

[Lang Murphy]

That is what we need, more government control. Unlike 'cable' or
perhaps 'electric or gas companies' you are not forced to use Microsoft
products. There are dozens of Operating Systems available to choose
from. Personally, on my own small business network, I use FreeBSD for
both DNS and as a mail & web server. Because my employees like MS
Office, the workstations are outfitted with WinXP.

Microsoft is not exploiting me, nor anyone else with an IQ level greater
than his/her shoe size. I strongly suspect that you have little or no
knowledge of non-windows based products.

And... even with Office you have at least one alternative OS: Apple's OS X
(without having to run another OS in a VM). Of course, buying Apple hardware
is much more expensive than buying PC's and from what I've read in this NG,
OS X updates occur between once a year and once every two years and cost
approximately $100 per seat. (Don't know much about this... just repeating
what I've read in here, so don't know about volume licensing pricing, etc.)
So... it would cost, probably, quite a bit more to move to using Mac's as
clients, but the point is there -are- alternatives.

And... the original replier (? lol), to my response to the original post
that started this thread, said in their reply... MS forces OEM vendors to
keep system costs down so that they are cheaper than Apple... (to put it as
simply as possible... and not that I agree with that view, but let's accept
it for the sake of arguement.) well... If Apple opened up their OS to run on
other hw, then the cost for running OS X would go down too... So there's
more going on here than MS doing "their thing" and "their thing" solely
impacting the market.

I think... hahaha.

Lang

 

[Lang Murphy]

I guess I was reading between the lines... and I quote from one of your
other posts:

"My whole point is that you shouldn't HAVE to do research to buy and install
an operating system."

I guess we'll continue to agree to disagree on that point.

As to your video card... well, yeah, that sucks. How was the card branded in
any of the lists you referenced prior to purchasing the card? Vista Capable
or Vista Premium Ready or even at all? I went back and looked through a
couple of your posts and the fact that your video card driver is showing up
as an XDDM device means either your video card does not support WDDM or
there is not a WDDM driver for that device yet. It could just be that you
need an updated driver for your video card. It could mean that the XDDM
driver you're currently using sucks with Vista (apparently so...) but works
fine in XP.

Can you return the video card and try another? I know that's not the optimal
solution to your problem, in terms of time and possibly money... but it is
an option.

Sorry for your troubles. If I had the types of issues you've had, I would
not be a happy camper either.

Lang

 

[Lang Murphy]

In one of your earlier posts you said your video card driver was reported as
an XDDM driver but here you're saying you have the WDDM driver. Which is it?
If you're trying to install a WDDM driver and it's showing up as an XDDM
driver... then one has to wonder whether the hardware supports WDDM. Maybe
there is a problem with that particular peice of hardware and exchanging it
might solve the problem. Just taking a SWAG, not saying that's the answer...

Lang

 

[Isaac Hunt]

Hi Bek, I paid for Vista too, Ultimate to be precise & I've gone back to
XP.
Yes it goes against the grain to pay for something & not use it, but IMO my
PC just wasn't as useable with Vista as it is with XP.
and I had no hardware issues, my hardware all had drivers & I used only
Vista certified software.
Moving to Vista made me switch some software to vista compatible versions &
that itself caused some compatibility issues in Vista which I didn't have
with XP.
An example: I use Perfectdisk v8 as a defrag program & Free compusec to
encrypt the hard disk of my laptop, incase it is stolen. Perfectdisk is
Vista compatible, but Compusec is not. So I bought Bestcrypt volume
encryption which is Vista compatible. Nothing on either web site about
incompatibility problems between the two programs.

But Bestcrypt interfers with the offline boot defrag of Perfectdisk
(Compusec didn't) & it won't run.
Bestcrypt technical are baffled & I spent 2 hours & about a dozen emails
following the instructions of Raxco technical who make Perfectdisk & they
couldn't help. The end result from them is that the two programs cannot
coexist.
So I was in a worse state that when I had XP.

So I have gone back to XP & Compusec & all is well.

Why not cut your losses & go back to XP?

 

[Isaac Hunt]

Download the ultimate boot cd at http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ it has
memtest apps on it.

 

[bp]

So I install it, only to find... my video card is
not compatible. So what type of research was I supposed to do, exactly?

Look for Vista drivers from the manufacturer

 

[Bill]

http://www.memtest86.com/ is the website.

http://www.memtest86.com/memtest86-3.3.iso.zip

is the file that you want. Extract the iso from the zip. Burn the iso
to a cdrom. Boot from the cdrom. You will know almost immediately, if
their are errors. Sometimes, though, you have to let it complete at
least one cycle. When you are finished using it, remove cdrom, and then
press esc. (in that order)



Look on the left side of the web page. Select Free Download.

 

[Guest]

Right. I have, and they are all up to date as far as Vista and the
manufacturer are concerned.

 

[Guest]

It was the video card I have always had in this computer.. it came with the
computer when I bought it. So I have no idea. Also, I don't think I could
return it, either, considering it is an on-board component.

 

[Guest]

Ok I just looked back and read that again.. I have XDDM but I thought it was
WDDM.. now maybe we're getting somewhere.. what is XDDM and WDDM, why would
either one make a difference, and what can I do about it?

 

[Lang Murphy]

OK... here are a couple of links about WDDM:

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/display/graphics-reqs.mspx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Display_Driver_Model

XDDM - Windows XP Display Driver Model - I googled this and didn't find any
informative links on the first page... sorry... you can do further
investigation.

Basically what it comes down to is... either your video card doesn't support
WDDM or there's no WDDM driver for your video card at present.

You can do a search in this NG on your video card model... think I've seen
threads on Vista support for those integrated Intel chipsets.

Good luck.

Lang

 

[Lang Murphy]

See my reply down a few posts.

Lang

It was the video card I have always had in this computer.. it came with
the
computer when I bought it. So I have no idea. Also, I don't think I could
return it, either, considering it is an on-board component.

 

[bp]

"upgrading" to Vista from XP was the worst mistake I could have made. There
was nothing wrong with XP.. I just thought Vista looked cool and would be
fun! Wrong!! Not only did I have to buy another stick of ram (2 512's), it
was the wrong kind.

Your PC determines what type of ram you need not VISTA
user error #1

So I had to exchange it for the right RAM.

VISTA's fault ?
user error #2

When I
installed Vista on top of XP (not the clean install but the upgrade). Nothing
but problems. The upgrade advisor said everything was hunky dory and ready to
go with Vista, yay! But, no. So I re-installed Vista, CLEAN, this time,
wiping everything out on the C drive (all my music and pics and stuff are on
D which I unplugged just in case).

What version of Vista do you own?

Still having issues. Mostly the screen
freezing up, usually in patterns of purple and yellow lines. Or blue screen
of death every 15-20 minutes. I'd have to reboot at least 40 times a day. I
kid you not. Microsoft technical support was not very helpful (yeah, called
them 6 times, they said they didn't know what to do for me). Finally went on
here and found some useful info (my video card sucks so thats why it kept
freezing up and giving me blue screen errors).

And this Video card is?
user error #3

Now, evresince decreasing my
video card hardware acceleration, its been better but I still get at least
one blue screen a day.

I don't care what you say your drivers are not up to date.
What is your card again?

Maybe I will get a better video card soon if I have
money. I have bills to pay, ya know?

WOW I bet you're the only one here with bills.

But for now I guess this will do.

Good idea, use a crap video card with crap drivers and then you can
bitch until you get a good card that VISTA SUCKS.
user error #4
Smart NOT

Then
comes the problem with aero. Thats why I frickin BOUGHT Vista. It looked rad.

Should have bought a v card that can do it then. The specs for such a
card can be found on the BOX not hard to find but if you can't read
the small print the spec's are all over the net.

user error #5

But then I find out, after MUCh searching, that the reason why there is only
the 'basic' vista theme, is because my hardware sucks and my videocard can't
handle the aero theme.

Why was it so hard?
It's written on the box.

user error #6

Well that is just fine and frickin dandy. So how about
lets install some third party .msstyles to spice this party up? OH NO NOT
VISTA!! Now they are .theme files, not .msstyles files, and you can't find
.Theme files anywhere on the internet. So I am stuck with one, basic, drab,
crappy Vista theme all because the upgrade advisor never told me that my
hardware would suck and prevent me from having an enjoyable vista experience.

So your pissed because you can't use XP crap with VISTA?
I'm beginning to think all your problems are "user errors"

user error #7

Vista, I hereby pronounce you as the worst operating system peice of crap
*ever*.

I CAN'T RUN MY XP SHIT AND I CAN'T READ THE SPEC'S ON THE BOX SO YOU
SUCK VISTA!!!
LOL

I wish I could go back to XP but all I have is the recovery disc that
came with my computer.

Then recover it ! DUH.

The computer already had XP installed. Crap. Well
maybe I'll spend the $100 and get a new copy of XP.

Why ? YOU HAVE A RECOVERY DISK USE IT!!!
Silly logic error #1

I bet I'll be 100%
happier.

I'll bet you f*** it up just as bad as you did with VISTA.

 

[bp]

It was the video card I have always had in this computer.. it came with the
computer when I bought it. So I have no idea. Also, I don't think I could
return it, either, considering it is an on-board component.

SO HOW THE HELL DO YOU KOWN WHAT DRIVER TO USE FOR IT!!??

 

[Guest]

You can read what video card you have on the monitor just before the BIOS
takes over the screen. You may have to keep the screen warmed yp so you get
to see it. It's not there for long.

 

[bp]

Right. I have, and they are all up to date as far as Vista and the
manufacturer are concerned.

This is a total lie by you.
You stated in this thread that you don't even know (you may know now)
what your video card is/was. If you don't know that how can you know
the driver is up to date?

 

[bp]

You can read what video card you have on the monitor just before the BIOS
takes over the screen. You may have to keep the screen warmed yp so you get
to see it. It's not there for long.

You could hit the "pause" key to read it.

 

[Spurious Response]

The system would
degrade daily with no help from me. Until it was too unpleasant to work with.

Did you register and activate your system?

Is it a legitimate install?