Vista? Anyone go back to XP?

[Boris]

Nevermind.
I found the fix for ubuntu.http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/default.mspx

I'll wait for Kaput Kangaroo.

I really didn't mean to start all this, but you made me nearly squirt
coffee through my nose on my kbd.

 

[Charlie Tame]

* Charlie Tame:

Charlie,

As our beloved Craig over at Securecomp would so eloquently put it-
Frank is an idiot.

P.S.
You and I are going to have to have a word of prayer if you keep
replying to that fat goober. ;-)


-Michael

Well to be honest I don't mind most of the banter that goes on here, you
can always ignore it if time is short, but I do think MS need bringing
back to reality on some issues and much as I like their products it
almost seems that now BG is no longer in full control the damned ship is
aiming to outdo the Titanic.

As Stephan and others have pointed out one does not have to support
"Piracy" to resent the DRM and Activation issues, which although not
entirely Microsoft's fault are certainly a major issue for many users
who purchased systems specifically for multimedia use and for their
business (Albeit needing only the retail license).

Aside from that there have been the mail issues for which it appears
that Hotmail servers were partly responsible (From my experiences
anyway) and now these stealth updates, so whatever MS are responsible
for or not the problems will come down to them. The so called search
simply doesn't work without registry hacks yet the "Indexing" does work,
ad nauseum. You still can't find anything but be sure it's indexed
That being the case what is it indexing and for whom?

I see the file copying defaults are also set not for the average user
but for an exclusive Vista network, probably should be another thing you
want to be able to turn on, not be forced to turn off, not that it will
improve the overall explorer performance WRT refusing to copy some files
for no apparent reason except it just don't like 'em

I have to admit I was a bit "Rusty" and let's face it learning gets
harder as you get older, but in all honesty it's been as easy getting to
grips with Debian and Ubuntu (Because I felt obliged to) as it has been
getting used to the unnecessary twists and turns of Vista. I think in
the case of and potentially retail "Windows" they should have given
users a "Classic XP" layout to fall back on since forcing folks to
re-learn stuff may just result in their re-learning elsewhere

Ah well, we have to wait and see...

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

I'm on the fence as to if I should buy my next machine with XP or Vista.
Anyone use Vista and gone back to XP?

Many people have.

Anyone gone to Vista and would never
go back?

Many other people have that point of view.

Personally, I run Vista on my desktop, but haven't upgraded my laptop,
since its hardware would make it a poor performer under Vista.

Personally, I'm happy with Vista. I wouldn't consider buying a new
computer with anything else, but I'd be cautious about upgrading an
existing computer to Vista, unless there was a pressing need to.

 

[Adam Albright]

I don't need to discredit alias or you.

So why did you try?

I am not the one resulting to insults and false allegations here, it is you
and alias. You must have a low opinion of the others here if you think it isn't
obvious to them.

What is painfully obvious is you lied, since you clearly used the word
"crazy" then at first denied it, then attempted to parse what you
said, now you lie further attempting to shift the blame to me and
Alias. That makes you a liar and coward in my book. Lying over what
you said is bad enough, attempting to cover it up and then flip it on
the person you accused of being crazy is the sure sign of a coward.
Wear your badge of shame proudly, you earned it.

See, yet more unfounded attempts to discredit me for no real reason.
You really are being hypocritical about it too.

How can I be discredited if I simply repeated your own words in
quotes? You called Alias crazy. Own up to it. Be a man, not a worm.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

50 % of this group has gone back to xp, 25% is happy with vista(i'm one of
them), and 25% are going to linux.

Have you taken a poll? How you possible know percentages?

Even if those percentages were right--and I very strongly doubt
them--they would be meaningless, and not representative of the world
at large. This is a place where people come to get help with their
problems. The percentage of people without problems is severely
underrepresented here.

 

[dennis@home]

So why did you try?


What is painfully obvious is you lied, since you clearly used the word
"crazy" then at first denied it, then attempted to parse what you
said, now you lie further attempting to shift the blame to me and
Alias. That makes you a liar and coward in my book. Lying over what
you said is bad enough, attempting to cover it up and then flip it on
the person you accused of being crazy is the sure sign of a coward.

I stated that he sounded crazy that is not the same as calling him crazy!
I have not changed what I said despite my failed attempt to explain it to
you.
As what I said is simple to understand I assume you are lying just for the
sake of it.

Wear your badge of shame proudly, you earned it.

Your badge is too big to wear.

How can I be discredited if I simply repeated your own words in
quotes? You called Alias crazy. Own up to it. Be a man, not a worm.

You are being stupid.
Note: I did say you are being stupid not that you are stupid just in case
you are stupid and can't understand.
Now you can misquote that and look even more stupid if you want.

 

[jack L. James]

Hi,

I'm on the fence as to if I should buy my next machine with XP or Vista.
Anyone use Vista and gone back to XP? Anyone gone to Vista and would never
go back?

Thanks.

I was having problems with the Blue Screen of Death, but after lengthy
diagnosis I determined it was not a problem with VISTA. All things
considered I will stay with VISTA, I like the new features and the
multimedia support.

 

[Guest]

My Parent's Went Back To 64 Bit Windows XP SP2 From 64 Bit Windows Vista
RTM, Just FYI.

 

[jonathan perreault]

you also missed the funniest part just like dp, you have to read the fine
print below my poll. ha ha ha ha

--
Jonathan Perreault

Personnal Advice To You:
#1: Do Not Undermine Windows's Work, Or It'll Undermine You As A User.
#2: Torture Windows (Any) Now Before It Tortures You

Best Comments From Users:
No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

 

[Roy Coorne]

Q. "Anyone use Vista and gone back to XP?"

A. Not very many.

Q. "Anyone gone to Vista and would never go back?"

A. Yes, there are now over 60 million very satisfied Vista users.

Is [MVP] the acronym for Microsoft Vista Pioneer?

Roy

 

[Mark]

I worried about moving to vista but I got over that in about 6 hours
of using it. Its a good system go for it
Big mark

 

[vanilla]

Hi, Boris ... I have been running Vista since the day it was released to the
public. I have had a lot of problems with Vista and recently became quite
discouraged about it.

But I am not going to go back to XP. Some users who have posted in these
Vista-related newsgroups do not like User Account Control (UAC) and disable
it. UAC is the number one reason I will stay with Vista. There are other
good reasons but UAC is the main benefit. Better security is the right
direction for any future OS.

Most of my problems have been with legacy hardware or with software that
says it is Vista compatible but, in truth, is not quite there yet.

You may have no problems at all with Vista ... it is definitely far more
secure, straight out of the box, than XP.

Post back and let us know what you decide to do and how it is going ...
vanilla

 

[Boris]

Hi, Boris ... I have been running Vista since the day it was released
to the public. I have had a lot of problems with Vista and recently
became quite discouraged about it.

But I am not going to go back to XP. Some users who have posted in
these Vista-related newsgroups do not like User Account Control (UAC)
and disable it. UAC is the number one reason I will stay with Vista.
There are other good reasons but UAC is the main benefit. Better
security is the right direction for any future OS.

Most of my problems have been with legacy hardware or with software
that says it is Vista compatible but, in truth, is not quite there
yet.

You may have no problems at all with Vista ... it is definitely far
more secure, straight out of the box, than XP.

Post back and let us know what you decide to do and how it is going
... vanilla

Hi, Vanilla,

Thanks for the reply, and I generall agree with you.

Hmmm...I'm not at all conerned about security, so I really don't care if
Vista is supposed to be more secure. With six machines in the house,
over 10 years, I've never had a problem with security (viruses, trojans,
spam, spyware). I can secure my own machines. I'm more 'aware' than
most users. (Please don't think that I took any offense by your note.
I'm just stating my position.)

Perhaps I've been lucky, but on my newest laptop, which I operate almost
entirely wirelessly, I didn't install any anti-virus software because,
like I said, I've never had any malware problems. The laptop has gotten
regular use for about a year now, and it's suffered no attacks. The only
security I have on it is the default Microsoft XPHome firewall.

All my other machines have the Microsoft firewall, and only Free Avast!
or McAfee subscription (not the suite, just the anti-virus), and none of
the machines has suffered an attack.

I also use AdAware Personal and HiJackThis, and nothing's ever been
found. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I sometimes think that the
anti-malware companies hype the dangers out there. After all, it means
sales.

I'm not going to be running Vista on any legacy hardware. I'm going to
buy a new machine that will be more than Vista capable.

What I worry about is the intrusions that Vista makes into my computing
habits. From what I've heard, either from newsgroups, forums, or friends
that use Vista, it's just full of nag screens that are supposed to help
the unexperienced user stay secure. I once tried Microsoft Defender, and
I hated it because of all the "are you sure you want to do this" screens.
This is what I envision Vista to be like.

Another aprehension of mine is that some of the programs I like to use
won't work under Vista. Some are 'legacy' programs (Nero 5, DAK 2000 MP3
Wav Editor, and the older versions of AIM...guess I can use Trillian or
Gain).

Next, I worry about networking to all of my XPHome or WMCE machines in
the house, or even the wireless networks on my laptops. Yeah, maybe I'm
a little paranoid about this aspect of Vista.

I also worry about, as you say, programs that are supposed to work under
Vista, not working.

Finally, I'm not really all that impresseed about the new Vista GUI.
It's just another GUI.

But, in the end, when all is said and done, I'll probably go with Vista
because it's the OS that will be used from now on. Also, I support my
freinds and relatives machines, and if they ever move up from XP, I'll
know how to support them.

Thanks again for your reply. I'll let you know what I do.

 

[Boris]

Hi, Boris ... I have been running Vista since the day it was released
to the public. I have had a lot of problems with Vista and recently
became quite discouraged about it.
snip

Post back and let us know what you decide to do and how it is going
... vanilla

I bought a Dell with Vista Home Premium. It shipped yesterday. I
decided to move into the present. I'll have to figure out how to network
it with my XPHome machines.

Dell E520, E6300 Core 2 Duo
2GB RAM
256 nVidia 7300LE video card
DVD ROM
DVD +/- RW Dbl layer burner