Upgrade from 98se to XP Home/System Hang at 'Loading Personal Sett

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Guest

I am upgrading from Windows 98se and the process proceeds apparently
normally. The upgrade process generated a user profile from the
Workgroup computer ID. When starting XP, I am presented with a select
user menu and when I click on the appropriate user, the system hangs at
'loading your personal settings, (I waited overnight before declaring it
hung). I restarted the PC in safe mode, logging in as the
administrator. I established a new user and selecting that new user
generated an identical hang. I reviewed all the conversion logs and
nothing seems out of the ordinary except near the bottom of SETUPACT.LOG
I found:

Warning MigrateUsersAsAdmin option is ignored on upgrade to Personal
SKU
Info Can't create

Software\Classes\CLSID\{3DA165B6-CC41-11d2-BDC6-00C04F79EC6B}\Versi
on because access was denied

Info Can't create

Software\Classes\CLSID\{8D8763AB-E93B-4812-964E-F04E0008FD50}\Versi
on because access was denied

I am not sure that these messages have any significance but since the
problem appears to impact the user account process I thought I should
provide them.

I have been through this process several times and have had to revert to
a disk image backup of Win 98se. I am basically out of ideas. I have
not deleted all user profiles as the administrator in safe mode but I
suppose I could try that. Any ideas?

Terry
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

Terry A. Dennison said:
I am upgrading from Windows 98se and the process proceeds apparently
normally. The upgrade process generated a user profile from the
Workgroup computer ID. When starting XP, I am presented with a select
user menu and when I click on the appropriate user, the system hangs at
'loading your personal settings, (I waited overnight before declaring it
hung). I restarted the PC in safe mode, logging in as the
administrator. I established a new user and selecting that new user
generated an identical hang. I reviewed all the conversion logs and
nothing seems out of the ordinary except near the bottom of SETUPACT.LOG
I found:

Warning MigrateUsersAsAdmin option is ignored on upgrade to Personal
SKU
Info Can't create

Software\Classes\CLSID\{3DA165B6-CC41-11d2-BDC6-00C04F79EC6B}\Versi
on because access was denied

Info Can't create

Software\Classes\CLSID\{8D8763AB-E93B-4812-964E-F04E0008FD50}\Versi
on because access was denied

I am not sure that these messages have any significance but since the
problem appears to impact the user account process I thought I should
provide them.

I have been through this process several times and have had to revert to
a disk image backup of Win 98se. I am basically out of ideas. I have
not deleted all user profiles as the administrator in safe mode but I
suppose I could try that. Any ideas?

Terry

It's like souping up a clapped-out but much loved volkswagon
to a brand-new BMW. It may work but the pedigree will
always show.

In other words, instead of inheriting lots of bad things from
a worn-out operating system that was mainly made for home
use, do a clean installation of WinXP. You will end up with
a far more stable and robust installation. Best to back up
your important data files beforehand, but then I'm sure you've
done this already.
 
G

Guest

That is obviously an option but I was hoping that the upgrade process could
preserve the environment that took years to develop. I am disappointed that
the upgrade path appears to consist of 'start over'. On this basis, the
'upgrade' is really only a loyality discount on the software.

Terry
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

You're expecting miracles from an upgrade. There are thousands of
entries in the registry, and it is simply not possible for an upgrade
process to "know" what each of them is supposed to do, because
a large number were added by third-party applications. It therefore
has to leave them as they are. If they were bad before the upgrade
then they are bad after the upgrade.

You also need to be aware that a PC installation is at its best
just after the OS and the basic applications have been loaded.
From then on it's downhill all the way. Each new application
has the potential to do some damage, each visit to an Internet
site bears the risk of some corruption. The machine acquires
an increasing number of scars, same as our bodies do. After
a while it needs to be rebuilt, same as our bodies (wishful
thinking . . .).
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

Are you thinking of the well-know upgrade path from Wife1 to Mistress1? ;-)


Colin Barnhorst said:
Downhill all the way? Sounds more like a marriage. :)

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Pegasus (MVP) said:
You're expecting miracles from an upgrade. There are thousands of
entries in the registry, and it is simply not possible for an upgrade
process to "know" what each of them is supposed to do, because
a large number were added by third-party applications. It therefore
has to leave them as they are. If they were bad before the upgrade
then they are bad after the upgrade.

You also need to be aware that a PC installation is at its best
just after the OS and the basic applications have been loaded.
From then on it's downhill all the way. Each new application
has the potential to do some damage, each visit to an Internet
site bears the risk of some corruption. The machine acquires
an increasing number of scars, same as our bodies do. After
a while it needs to be rebuilt, same as our bodies (wishful
thinking . . .).


wrote
in hangs
at declaring
it revert
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G

Guest

Booting in safe mode allows me to operate as the administrator in a seemingly
normal manner. I can add users but selecting either old (converted) users or
a new user in a normal boot hangs the computer.

Terry

Pegasus (MVP) said:
Are you thinking of the well-know upgrade path from Wife1 to Mistress1? ;-)


Colin Barnhorst said:
Downhill all the way? Sounds more like a marriage. :)

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Pegasus (MVP) said:
You're expecting miracles from an upgrade. There are thousands of
entries in the registry, and it is simply not possible for an upgrade
process to "know" what each of them is supposed to do, because
a large number were added by third-party applications. It therefore
has to leave them as they are. If they were bad before the upgrade
then they are bad after the upgrade.

You also need to be aware that a PC installation is at its best
just after the OS and the basic applications have been loaded.
From then on it's downhill all the way. Each new application
has the potential to do some damage, each visit to an Internet
site bears the risk of some corruption. The machine acquires
an increasing number of scars, same as our bodies do. After
a while it needs to be rebuilt, same as our bodies (wishful
thinking . . .).


message That is obviously an option but I was hoping that the upgrade process
could
preserve the environment that took years to develop. I am disappointed
that
the upgrade path appears to consist of 'start over'. On this basis, the
'upgrade' is really only a loyality discount on the software.

Terry

:


in
message I am upgrading from Windows 98se and the process proceeds apparently
normally. The upgrade process generated a user profile from the
Workgroup computer ID. When starting XP, I am presented with a
select
user menu and when I click on the appropriate user, the system hangs
at
'loading your personal settings, (I waited overnight before declaring
it
hung). I restarted the PC in safe mode, logging in as the
administrator. I established a new user and selecting that new user
generated an identical hang. I reviewed all the conversion logs and
nothing seems out of the ordinary except near the bottom of
SETUPACT.LOG
I found:

Warning MigrateUsersAsAdmin option is ignored on upgrade to
Personal
SKU
Info Can't create

Software\Classes\CLSID\{3DA165B6-CC41-11d2-BDC6-00C04F79EC6B}\Versi
on because access was denied

Info Can't create

Software\Classes\CLSID\{8D8763AB-E93B-4812-964E-F04E0008FD50}\Versi
on because access was denied

I am not sure that these messages have any significance but since the
problem appears to impact the user account process I thought I should
provide them.

I have been through this process several times and have had to revert
to
a disk image backup of Win 98se. I am basically out of ideas. I
have
not deleted all user profiles as the administrator in safe mode but I
suppose I could try that. Any ideas?

Terry


It's like souping up a clapped-out but much loved volkswagon
to a brand-new BMW. It may work but the pedigree will
always show.

In other words, instead of inheriting lots of bad things from
a worn-out operating system that was mainly made for home
use, do a clean installation of WinXP. You will end up with
a far more stable and robust installation. Best to back up
your important data files beforehand, but then I'm sure you've
done this already.
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

I think the proper format is 'Mistress(n)' :)

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Pegasus (MVP) said:
Are you thinking of the well-know upgrade path from Wife1 to Mistress1?
;-)


Colin Barnhorst said:
Downhill all the way? Sounds more like a marriage. :)

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Pegasus (MVP) said:
You're expecting miracles from an upgrade. There are thousands of
entries in the registry, and it is simply not possible for an upgrade
process to "know" what each of them is supposed to do, because
a large number were added by third-party applications. It therefore
has to leave them as they are. If they were bad before the upgrade
then they are bad after the upgrade.

You also need to be aware that a PC installation is at its best
just after the OS and the basic applications have been loaded.
From then on it's downhill all the way. Each new application
has the potential to do some damage, each visit to an Internet
site bears the risk of some corruption. The machine acquires
an increasing number of scars, same as our bodies do. After
a while it needs to be rebuilt, same as our bodies (wishful
thinking . . .).


message That is obviously an option but I was hoping that the upgrade process
could
preserve the environment that took years to develop. I am
disappointed
that
the upgrade path appears to consist of 'start over'. On this basis, the
'upgrade' is really only a loyality discount on the software.

Terry

:


in
message I am upgrading from Windows 98se and the process proceeds apparently
normally. The upgrade process generated a user profile from the
Workgroup computer ID. When starting XP, I am presented with a
select
user menu and when I click on the appropriate user, the system hangs
at
'loading your personal settings, (I waited overnight before declaring
it
hung). I restarted the PC in safe mode, logging in as the
administrator. I established a new user and selecting that new user
generated an identical hang. I reviewed all the conversion logs and
nothing seems out of the ordinary except near the bottom of
SETUPACT.LOG
I found:

Warning MigrateUsersAsAdmin option is ignored on upgrade to
Personal
SKU
Info Can't create

Software\Classes\CLSID\{3DA165B6-CC41-11d2-BDC6-00C04F79EC6B}\Versi
on because access was denied

Info Can't create

Software\Classes\CLSID\{8D8763AB-E93B-4812-964E-F04E0008FD50}\Versi
on because access was denied

I am not sure that these messages have any significance but since the
problem appears to impact the user account process I thought I should
provide them.

I have been through this process several times and have had to revert
to
a disk image backup of Win 98se. I am basically out of ideas. I
have
not deleted all user profiles as the administrator in safe mode
but I
suppose I could try that. Any ideas?

Terry


It's like souping up a clapped-out but much loved volkswagon
to a brand-new BMW. It may work but the pedigree will
always show.

In other words, instead of inheriting lots of bad things from
a worn-out operating system that was mainly made for home
use, do a clean installation of WinXP. You will end up with
a far more stable and robust installation. Best to back up
your important data files beforehand, but then I'm sure you've
done this already.
 

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