The Reluctant Pirate

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arachnid

And what they are not supposed to do is to force the market to bear the
insanely high prices they charge and keep jacking up the price by having a
virtual monopoly.

Microsoft's monopoly isn't virtual. Courts all over the world, including
US and European, courts, have ruled Microsoft to be a defacto monopoly
under their laws. The legal definition of a monopoly only requires that a
company have sufficient market share that it's free of competitive
pressures in setting prices, features, terms of use, etc. Typically that
happens when a company owns around 90% of the market.

Just for fun, here's an interesting page that does a market simulation for
various types of companies and market situations:

http://www.egwald.com/economics/econpage.php3

It's educational to leave all other conditions equal while stepping
down through the number of competitors until you arrive at a monopoly. To
simplify comparisons it's best to use a different browser tab for each
computation so you can flip back and forth.
 
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Nina DiBoy

Dale said:
Internet Explorer is not free. It is an integral part of the OS and you
pay for it just as you pay for any other part of the OS including
Windows Explorer, Notepad, WordPad, Calculator, Windows Media Player,
and so on.

Dale

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...WDqfHWMjubUHPKmIgUy+s7RNHwQopH3d6MMIHZgBtjg==

It does not charge me if I try to download IE here Dale. So what do you
mean that IE is not free?



--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:

"Price is actually no factor in piracy..." spoken by
Mike Brannigan

"But I'm not insulting people. I'm insulting Linux Loonies..."
spoken by Mike <[email protected]>

"No, I'm not sure. I was just making fun of Chad's typo."
spoken by Mike <[email protected]>

More great quotes here:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html
 
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Dale

Whether or not it breaks the integrity of your network, it breaks your
personal integrity to pirate a copy of Windows. If you'll steal from
Microsoft, I would worry, if I were your customer, that you'd steal from me.

As for actually reading license agreements, there are, no doubt, license
agreements your customers sign when using your services. I'm sure their
lawyers would love to have this statement from you should you ever find
yourself in court to enforce terms of your agreement.

I'm not embarrassed. You should be, though. If only for not knowing that
platform has little to do with the spread of viruses and malware. There
was, a few years back, a virus called "red" something - I forget the name -
that was spread from Solaris server to Solaris server but the attack from
that virus was made to Windows servers on the same network as the Solaris
box. Just because most of your systems are not Windows doesn't make your
act any less stupid in a corporate environment.

And admitting to it on a Microsoft owned newsgroup is even more stupid.

Dale
 
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Dale

Actually, having worked in the telecommunications industry for over 25
years, I do know about PBX and VoIP systems. I know about all types of
digital telecommunications switching systems, transmission systems,
networking and IP systems as well. I also know about the value of
data-mining those call records because I have done so in my jobs. If
reading contracts is a waste of time to you, that is just more evidence that
you, and your company, are not someone that a knowledgeable person would do
business with.

It's too bad that you call keeping your word and contracts being a
"by-the-book ass-clown". I call not keeping your word and honoring your
contracts dishonest. And all it takes is a whopping 1 modified file to
totally expose you and your customers to harm. There are a lot of people
who don't read license agreements or couldn't understand them if they did.
They often violate those agreements out of ignorance. Your violation of
your license agreement was not out of ignorance. It was out of dishonesty.

If you wanted Vista for evaluation purposes in order to test and evaluate
its compatibility and usefulness in your business, Microsoft has a TechNet
subscription that would have given you just that - without cheating. Ask
your IT staff. They already know about it. The fact that you don't know
about it makes me suspect that you aren't the one evaluating or determining
its usefulness for your customers. Or if you are, it's another stupid
mistake. You don't have the proper background and experience for it. Of
course your use of a stolen copy of Vista has nothing to do with your
customers. Here are your own words:

As for paying today, that wasn't really the issue anyway. The problem is,
at least as far as you knew, you couldn't buy it today. So you stole it.
Just because you were willing to pay means nothing. If I go to an auction
house and see an item I want and I am willing to pay any price but they
refuse to sell it to me before the auction next month, then by your
standards I'm now justified in breaking in tonight and taking the item. And
it's not stealing because I was willing to pay any price for it. What a
stupid argument you make.

Getting things "done at any cost" (the correct phrase where you said "at all
cost") means that you value profit and business above morality and honesty.
I can assure you that your customers expect you to be honest first and
profitable second. If you can't, and if they knew that you couldn't, be
honest first, they'd take their business elsewhere lest their business data
begin to look like dollar signs in your eyes.

Now you've shown yourself to be over-reactive and immature, along with your
lack of honesty and integrity in business.

Where's that customer reference list?

Dale
 
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Mike

Erik Funkenbusch said:
While hardware was indeed a problem, the real problem was that OS/2 uses
ring 2 for device drivers, something that no other OS does. VMWare and
most other emulators had trouble with this and didn't really work well.
Some have claimed to get it running while others say they haven't been
able
to... not sure who to believe.

OS/2 runs fine in VPC. I've been running eCS 1.0 (OS/2 4.5) in VPC for a
couple of years now. In fact it's easier to install in VPC than on real
hardware, since chances are you can't find drivers for the real hardware.

Mike
 

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