Security Center says Defender is turned off

[Guest]

If you have Live OneCare, naturally it turns off Windows Defender. Other
security system may do the same.
You can test it by disabling other security systems.

Cheers,

 

[Dave M]

Thought some more about your situation. You know rather than suspect
CounterSpy of having conflicts with Defender, I'd be looking first at
Norton and then SpySweeper. Norton at 2006 and 2007 did produce a number
of known conflicts with Defender. I see it myself moderately in NIS 2005
but I just disabled the Norton checkmark that enables self protection in my
Norton Products since old Peter Norton was complaining about Defender as
well as SpySweeper in the Symantec Resource Protector Activity Log reports.
This conflict got worse with his versions for 2006 and 2007 as I recall
reading the Ms forums (politically & technically they began fighting for
the Anti-spyware & AV market about that time.)

As to SpySweeper, I think they haven't gotten things very right since
version 5.0 and many reported conflicts with various AS and AV competitors.
Personally I'm backlevel at 4.5.9 where it was one of, if not the best
products on the market, and Ms AS was only my second line of defense. I
won't install newer versions of SS until the forums (CastleCops in
particular) quit reporting that it's totally disruptive of systems using
multiple layers of protection. Since you obviously believe in that
multi-layer approach you should be suspicious of SS, although I haven't
heard you speak of any high system overhead, which I'd expect to see if
that were the case. Hope some of this background info helps you.

Re: the reboot... I only asked for it to make sure everything was totally
refreshed. Normally, it shouldn't be required.

 

[Guest]

I admit SpySweeper has made me crazy at times. I'll try disabling that one
first and see how life goes. Norton has not messed with me.

Yeah I am a tad paranoid, especially since I occasionally trap something in
my little security web here.

BTW - Defender shut down again today, around 11:30 AM, and again, nothing in
the Event log to clue me in.

Thanks for the feedback, it has been helpful.

 

[Dave M]

Hi again Hornet;

If your willing to try this, it may help with the interface problem between
Security Center and Defender. I found this post on the WLOC newsgroups...
of which Defender is the anti-spyware component. See if you think it might
help you... and be sure to let us know the outcome if you do give it a go:

http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsOneCare/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1425272&SiteID=2

 

[Guest]

You think Microsoft would get it "Pooop" together what really get's me it
that damn windows live one care...God how annoying, and in my opion it is
worthless.

And all of the Vista compatible programes I have tried to download wont. is
this something Vista does? wont allow anyother Anti virus programs to install

 

[Dave M]

Ric;
If your running WLOC you have one real time Anti-Virus and Firewall
installed. It's rare to be able to run two of either of these in real time
without conflict, and it's not recommended, no matter which AV and Firewall
your dealing with... Microsoft or Non-Microsoft. There are a few
exceptions to this "rule" but you really have to know what your dealing
with, and still you have be alert to potential conflict. I believe WLOC
checks or at least it did check to ensure your not violating this rule of
thumb. Running another AV as an on demand scanner as opposed to using real
time protection is a different story. I'd recommend doing just that
occasionally as a check on your installed Anti-Virus, WLOC or otherwise.

 

[Guest]

I had this problem with mine as well. Go to
http://www.pchell.com/support/multiple_antivirus_in_security_center.shtml and
follow the instructions and it should take care of the problem, it did for me.

As a side note, did this happen to you after using system recovery? I had an
issue where I had to use system recovery and I believe that is what caused
the security center to list my defender as being turned off as well as cause
it to not see my AV program, followed the instructions above and problem is
fixed.