Rip-off artists

[notritenoteri]

what a profound statement. Did you come up with it yourself or did your
special needs teacher help you with it?
Tell us how much does an 8086 processor chip cost these days or 64kb of
memory?
: Who would attempt to argue the intent of these manufacturers? Someone
: who enjoys arguing for argument's sake. Or, an idiot. The intent is
: profit. You can't argue that prices continue to climb. They are, have
: been, and will continue to.
:

 

[notritenoteri]

HOw many made-in-anerica parts do you have in your computer?
: > aether wrote:
: > >>>In general, it's called "inflation."<<<
: >
: > Check it out:
: >
:
http://www.newegg.com/app/searchPro...order=PRICE&description=DDR2-533&Order=priceD
: >
: > Those aren't even the top of the line. ('top of the line' meaning
: > fastest, newest..)
: >
: > Paying over $450 for a couple DIMMs of good memory isn't due to
: > inflation, but extortion.
:
:
: Another quick example. Over the past week, the AMD 3500+ Winchester has
: not only not decreased in price, but has increased by 15 dollars at
: Zipzoomfly.com. Memory and video cards have also been increasing over
: the past few months, as I've been tracking a few modules and cards,
: mostly out of curiosity.
:
: As I said before, let us hope Asian corporations manufacture their own
: chipsets, motherboards, graphics cards, and memory, and dump millions
: of them into western markets. I'd like to see the western corporations
: who outsource manufacturing jobs to Asia *lose out* to other Asian
: manufacturers. Teaching them a lesson, and if the lesson isn't learnt,
: permanently putting them out of business. Since western manufacturers
: only seek to gain massive profits, and we see no benefits of this
: outsourcing in terms of prices, no American should care when this
: happens. It's going to happen anyway. I say this with the knowledge
: that, on average, these corporations wrake in massive earnings.
: However, it's never enough! Their only goal is to please shareholders
: and the stock market. Their purpose is only profit! They move entire
: factories out of the country, seeking to exploit cheap labor, and in
: the process make unemployed millions of industrious people in their own
: country -- for profit alone! Let them, in turn, choke, on the cheap
: labor of Asia. We'll still have those unemployed from that sector
: because of these avaricious companies, but at least we'll see something
: in return.
:

 

[soinie]

what a profound statement. Did you come up with it yourself or did your
special needs teacher help you with it?
Tell us how much does an 8086 processor chip cost these days or 64kb of
memory?
: Who would attempt to argue the intent of these manufacturers? Someone
: who enjoys arguing for argument's sake. Or, an idiot. The intent is
: profit. You can't argue that prices continue to climb. They are, have
: been, and will continue to.
:

Arguing with republican asswipes is a waste of time. This fool still
thinks documentaries are "movies".

 

[aether]

Arguing with republican asswipes is a waste of time. This fool still
thinks documentaries are "movies".

So it seems.

 

[David Maynard]

Arguing with republican asswipes is a waste of time. This fool still
thinks documentaries are "movies".

Still think a 'movie' is evidence, eh?

 

[soinie]

Still think a 'movie' is evidence, eh?

Obtuse aren't you? Define movie.

 

[Kylesb]

--
Best regards,
Kyle
| On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 20:25:06 -0600, David Maynard
<[email protected]>
| wrote:
|
| >soinie wrote:
| >
| >> On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 13:12:12 -0500, " notritenoteri"
| >>
| >>
| >>>what a profound statement. Did you come up with it yourself or
did your
| >>>special needs teacher help you with it?
| >>>Tell us how much does an 8086 processor chip cost these days or
64kb of
| >>>memory?
| >>>| >>>: Who would attempt to argue the intent of these manufacturers?
Someone
| >>>: who enjoys arguing for argument's sake. Or, an idiot. The
intent is
| >>>: profit. You can't argue that prices continue to climb. They
are, have
| >>>: been, and will continue to.
| >>>:
| >>>
| >>
| >> Arguing with republican asswipes is a waste of time. This fool
still
| >> thinks documentaries are "movies".
| >
| >Still think a 'movie' is evidence, eh?
|
| Obtuse aren't you? Define movie.

Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary:
Main Entry: mov·ie
Pronunciation: 'mü-vE
Function: noun
Etymology: moving picture
1 : MOTION PICTURE
2 plural : a showing of a motion picture
3 plural : the motion-picture medium or industry

 

[Brian Brunner]

And I pity the poor wretches that live off it. In both cases.

 

[David Maynard]

Obtuse aren't you?

Not at all. It's you who wish to confuse by suggesting that hanging the
moniker 'documentary' automatically makes the 'film' ultimate 'truth'.

Define movie.

Pick any definition you like. The film, movie, documentary, or whatever
else you wish to call it, still isn't evidence of the claim you made.

 

[T]

It's bound to happen, anyway. Massive importation via Asia countries
will bring down the prices, eventually. PC prices, the price of
components, memory, etc.. are not falling. They are at a standstill, or
increasing. A top-flight video card will cost you nearly $1,000. If
that's not a form of larceny, what is? For a video card that will be
obsolete in less than three, perhaps two, years.

Your use of the word 'obsolete' is failing your point in this case. That
$1000 card, if it doesn't fail, will be perfectly usable for a decade
at least. Certainly not useless in five. Obsolete?

I grant that newer cards will be out to replace it but the case can be
made for the Millennium card in one of my systems right now. It works
just fine. And it's _old_.

The reason for this, mostly, is shareholders and the stock market. They
must increase their profit every quarter to please them. This results
in overpricing. (e.g. theft)

Of course I would like cheaper prices but there is a chance to kill the
Golden Goose here. Costs of R&D and Manufacturing must be recovered, as
do all those Swiss Bank accounts and sending their kids to college.

Nobody is forcing you to spend $1k on a damn video card.


TBerk

 

[T]

aether wrote:

A quality 512MB DRAM module, three years ago, cost around $120. Keep in
mind, that was essentially all that was necessary for a PC. Today,
since 1GB is essential, you must be prepared to pay at least double
that to have the same qualitative memory. Even more, if you prefer a
single DIMM.

I call BULLSHIT.


After all, we _know_ you must have more than One Gig of RAM. <wink>



TBerk

 

[David Maynard]

aether wrote:



I call BULLSHIT.


After all, we _know_ you must have more than One Gig of RAM. <wink>



TBerk

My favorite part of that B.S. was the "same qualitative memory" argument,
closely followed by how much "was essentially all that was necessary for a PC."

 

[T]

I'll cite examples of what I speak of:

I agree with the view that yours is a short term experience.

Stick around awhile and see the fluctuations.


TBerk