Rip-off artists

A

aether

That sums up the entire industry. The prices aren't coming down. The
prices have remained the same for the past six months. They pay cheap
laborers in Asia a few cents an hour to manufacture this hardware, and
then turn around and make a 1000% profit. I'd love to see this turned
on them. (e.g. mass produced hardware flood the market via Asia) One
look at the prices they're charging for video cards is all you need to
realize this.
 
J

John Russell

aether said:
That sums up the entire industry. The prices aren't coming down. The
prices have remained the same for the past six months. They pay cheap
laborers in Asia a few cents an hour to manufacture this hardware, and
then turn around and make a 1000% profit. I'd love to see this turned
on them. (e.g. mass produced hardware flood the market via Asia) One
look at the prices they're charging for video cards is all you need to
realize this.

What about R&D?
If we follow your logic all semi-conductor products should be free becuase
the raw material is "sand".
 
B

Ben Pope

John said:
What about R&D?
If we follow your logic all semi-conductor products should be free
becuase the raw material is "sand".

Exactly. It's like saying that software should be free, 'cos you can get it
online using electrons that are recyclable.

Ben
 
J

John Russell

Ben Pope said:
Exactly. It's like saying that software should be free, 'cos you can get
it online using electrons that are recyclable.

That's right. The manufacturing cost of software is naff all, the price of a
cd! What your paying for is a "share" of the interlectual effort required to
"design" the software.
 
C

Colon Terminus

VIdeo cards?

The newer video cards are, in fact, a very powerful computer-on-a-board. The
GPU is actually more powerful than most current CPUs. Video cards are one of
the better bargains to be had today. You wanna carp about prices? Start with
memory. No reason in the world that vanilla DDR should cost what it does.
 
J

Jon Danniken

aether said:
That sums up the entire industry. The prices aren't coming down. The
prices have remained the same for the past six months. They pay cheap
laborers in Asia a few cents an hour to manufacture this hardware, and
then turn around and make a 1000% profit. I'd love to see this turned
on them. (e.g. mass produced hardware flood the market via Asia) One
look at the prices they're charging for video cards is all you need to
realize this.

Okay, comrade.

Jon
 
T

Trinity

Okay, comrade.

Jon

Ya, every home will have a CBJ10 model computer installed at the price
of ten Copeks per year. Oh, and Government agency logging software is
freely installed too.
 
G

Gregory Toomey

aether said:
That sums up the entire industry. The prices aren't coming down. The
prices have remained the same for the past six months. They pay cheap
laborers in Asia a few cents an hour to manufacture this hardware, and
then turn around and make a 1000% profit. I'd love to see this turned
on them. (e.g. mass produced hardware flood the market via Asia) One
look at the prices they're charging for video cards is all you need to
realize this.

Fab plants start at $1 billion.
$50 Graphics cards are faster than supercomputers of 20 years ago.

If you dont like capitalism move to North Korea.

gtoomey
 
A

aether

It's bound to happen, anyway. Massive importation via Asia countries
will bring down the prices, eventually. PC prices, the price of
components, memory, etc.. are not falling. They are at a standstill, or
increasing. A top-flight video card will cost you nearly $1,000. If
that's not a form of larceny, what is? For a video card that will be
obsolete in less than three, perhaps two, years.

The reason for this, mostly, is shareholders and the stock market. They
must increase their profit every quarter to please them. This results
in overpricing. (e.g. theft)
 
R

Richard Hopkins

aether said:
A top-flight video card will cost you nearly $1,000. If that's not a form
of larceny, what is?

If you don't want to pay that amount of money, there are plenty of cheaper
products. If you want to live on the bleeding edge, and have the absolute
fastest, you will have to pay top dollar for it. That's market forces.
For a video card that will be obsolete in less than three, perhaps
two, years.

The video card market is only turning over at the rate it is because there
are plenty of gamers and benchmark wankers out there prepared to pay for the
latest and greatest. If you don't want to pay, nobody's forcing you.
The reason for this, mostly, is shareholders and the stock market.

No, it's primarily because of customers.
They must increase their profit every quarter to please them. This
results in overpricing.

....but if they price the products out of the market, nobody buys the
merchandise, no profits, and no stock value.
(e.g. theft)

Rofl, get a life. It's hardly theft if the buyer willingly hands over the
money. It's a transaction is what it is, and if there are people willing to
pay that sort of money for a graphics card, there's no reason why companies
shouldn't satisfy that demand.
--


Richard Hopkins
Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom
(replace nospam with pipex in reply address)

The UK's leading technology reseller www.dabs.com
 
P

Papa

It's hardly theft if the buyer willingly hands over the
money. It's a transaction is what it is, and if there are people willing
to pay that sort of money for a graphics card, there's no reason why
companies shouldn't satisfy that demand.

Exactly. That's why Abercrombie and Fitch (clothing) is doing so well here
in the States. The teenage girls and their parents are slaves to that market
and pay the higher prices, while those who can think shop elsewhere and save
a bundle.
 
R

Ruel Smith

aether said:
A top-flight video card will cost you nearly $1,000.

You can get an nVidia 6800 Ultra for about $500. Where do you come up with
$1000? Are you talking about a professionaly level GL card? That has
nothing to do with home based PC's.
 
T

Trinity

A top-flight video card will cost you nearly $1,000. If
that's not a form of larceny, what is?

This is a pretty close to top end gamers card. It's less than half of
what you quoted.

eVGA nVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-bit, Dual
DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "256-A8-N345-AX" -RETAIL $439.00
 
D

David Maynard

aether said:
It's bound to happen, anyway. Massive importation via Asia countries
will bring down the prices, eventually. PC prices, the price of
components, memory, etc.. are not falling. They are at a standstill, or
increasing. A top-flight video card will cost you nearly $1,000. If
that's not a form of larceny, what is? For a video card that will be
obsolete in less than three, perhaps two, years.

The reason for this, mostly, is shareholders and the stock market. They
must increase their profit every quarter to please them. This results
in overpricing. (e.g. theft)

Then why don't you start a company selling 'cheap' computers and, since
everyone will beat a path to your door, get rich?
 
L

Looker007

Trinity said:
This is a pretty close to top end gamers card. It's less than half of
what you quoted.

eVGA nVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-bit, Dual
DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "256-A8-N345-AX" -RETAIL $439.00
DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "256-A8-N345-AX" -RETAIL $439.00


Nice price, now convert that to CANADIAN DOLLARS and see what the price
is... DON'T assume that ALL posters on this usegroup are from the
UNITED STATES.
$439.00
+219.50 approx. Canadian exchange
 
N

notritenoteri

is some big bad meany forcing you to buy or is it just your tiny little ego
driving you(pun) to have the fastest mostest on the block?
BTW the board wasobsolescent last week.
 
N

notritenoteri

you mean like Dell?
David Maynard said:
Then why don't you start a company selling 'cheap' computers and, since
everyone will beat a path to your door, get rich?
 
P

Papa

You are so wise, and you show such sophistication. Have you ever thought
about going into the Diplomatic Corps?
 

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