Requesting some leniency on your piracy protection program please.

P

Patrick Keenan

Soard666 said:
Dear Microsoft.

Thanks for your hard work on all those fantastic OS's you've been
providing throughout so many years; especially Windows XP which, according
to
my unprofessional experience, is one of the best OS's to ever come out
from
Microsoft!

I mostly like to focus on your fight against piracy. I understand, agree
and encourage what you're trying to do to stop illegal copies from being
able
to spread in to the market. However, I do find some of your tactics for
carrying out your mission, a bit too strict! Please let me explain why.

I have 7 computers at home, I'm not running a business off them, just a
computer enthusiast with a private home network, which I use for my own
personal convenience. And I have to admit, that I only have one genuine
copy
of Windows XP (S2), and another pirate copy of Windows XP (S2). The good
thing about the genuine software is that I have your full gracious support
for it, and that is great! But that is the only good thing I get from the
genuine copy! The things I do not get, is not being able to install the
same
CD on my other 6 computers, not being able to reinstall the same software
on
the same computer several times, (Since I'm always formatting due to
testing,
viruses, spy ware and add ware, changing hardware, and having multiple
removable discs on the same computers). With a genuine copy, I basically
have
my hands tied behind my back most of the time! I have to be very careful
with
my computer not to get it infected with anything, and/or paying very good
attention to what I install and uninstall on it, worried how many hardware
changes I could make before my OS locks up, not being able to install it
on
other computers. basically. taking as much precautions and care for my OS,
so
I would not corrupt it and have to format, cause I know I would not be
able
to get it back easily, as well as not being able to use it except once!
Please forgive me for thinking so, but this really sucks! I much prefer to
use my pirated copy, where I could install and reinstall countless times,
as
well as install the OS on all my 7 computers!

My suggestion, is if you could please provide some leniency on how your
pirate protection protocols are carried out. I read some of the details on
how it works. for example, I clearly remember that the system scans the
whole
computer, reports several hardware codes, and sends them back to
Microsoft,
making every computer unique, so it could send back an unlock code. I
believe
that is too much! It means that our upgrade range is quite limited; we are
not free to do whatever we want to our personal computers! I mean, what is
the crime if I decide to change a CPU and motherboard every two weeks? Is
it
illegal? What If I like to build a new system every month and keep it in
my
home? Personally, whenever I build a new system, I do not throw away the
old
system! I join it to my network! Is that illegal? If not, how am I
supposed
to run my other computers without an OS? What if I do not want some of my
computers to be connected to the Internet? I also would not be able to
validate and activate the system! Can you possibly use less hardware to
identify individual computers? Like maybe some hardware in a computer that
are most unlikely to be changed? Such as the motherboard? I'm sure you can
come up with several better ideas on how to protect your software, as well
as
providing better services from your OS's.


How about if you could sell validation keys that could be reusable on
the
same computer countless times? For example, I have one genuine copy and 7
computers, so I would have to buy 6 validation keys form you, provided
that
each of the keys work on only one computer, and can be reinstalled several
times on that very same computer. The system identifies the motherboard's
onboard information only, which would provide the user with virtually
unlimited hardware changes and upgrade possibilities.

I really hope that, as you are doing a wonderful job in developing all
your fantastic software, you'd also develop a fantastic, lenient and
efficient piracy protection program. Cause honestly at this point, I'm
forced
to use the pirated copy, and though in this country it is not illegal, I
actually prefer to use originals all the time, it's a question of moral. I
can't stand any one using something developed by some one else; without
his/her permission and gratitude (in the form of the payment the owner
deserves for his/her hard work)!

Thanks for reading and understanding.

It might help if you read and understood the license agreements - which you
agreed to at the start of the installs - and understood the product types.

There is no problem with installing the same legal version every day. At
most, you have to phone.

But if you're doing that, you are using the wrong version. You should have
purchased an XP Pro volume license, available in multiples of five. This
does not require activation.

If you want free software, many would suggest that you move to Linux. With
a few exceptions, this will provide most of the functionality and
cross-platform support you desire.

HTH
-pk
 
G

Guest

Please man…. No offence, but spare me the legal babble! It makes no
difference in these regions! Around here, you’d be lucky to find anything
original! If you ask for originals, they’d think you’r out of your mind, and
they’d still not supply you with any! I mean, in their mentality they’d
think: “Why the heck would I buy a program for over $100 when I could get it
for less than $3?!â€

My genuine Windows XP was supplied to me by my cosine overseas! I could not
find one here! And I payed him for it at full cost! $200.

And if you think I’m going to stop my education, work, future and life for a
foreign law, than you’ll have to excuse me if I believe that you might be out
of your mind! When and if I travel to a respectable country, I’ll abide by
its laws, which includes, not dealing with pirated software! But until then,
pirated it will have to be! I have no choice, and I promises that you would
not do any better under the same circumstances!

And if you paid attention to what I wrote, you would realize that I’m not
looking for this so called: “Mulliganâ€! Please read thoroughly, understand,
then answer. Or else, if you believe you are such a law abiding person, you
would also believe in fair judgment! And yours about me was not.
 
G

Guest

May I suggest you move to another country then?! Cause what you are asking
from me is basically the same! (So what part of plain English do you not
understand?!) THERE ARE ALMOST NO ORIGINALS OF ANY KIND OF SOFTWARE IN THIS
COUNTRY! And I will not put my future and life to a halt just to abide by a
foreign law! If and when I move to a respectable country, then I’d abide by
the local laws!

You want to save your precious pockets so bad?! Than move to a country which
supports pirated software!
 
G

Guest

Thank you so much for you help and info sir!

I have to admit… I do sometimes skip reading the license agreement, I know
it is there for a good reason, but some times I just want to wing it.

Jeeze! How many versions of Windows are there?! I need to research this more!

Really thank you!
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

"if you think I’m going to stop my education, work"
People all around the world do just that.
When they do not have the resources, they save and wait.
Very few places condone stealing as a means of getting ahead.
The fact others are unethical is irrelevant.
It is not usually a good idea to base ones actions on the actions
already known to be unethical.

You obviously have some resources since you have several computers.
That is more than many in North America can afford.
You have at least one valid license.
You can probably get more legitimately if you wanted.
But if you can't, do what people here do, get an alternative such as
Linux which is free.
 
G

Guest

I’m not interested at all in what any one thinks of me, nor do I care. I’m
not requesting neither any one’s blessings, nor forgiveness. If some can’t
understand my circumstances, than that’s too bad…, but not for me. To me, it
makes no difference whatsoever.
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

Then why waste your time and everyone else's by posting your drivel.

| I'm not interested at all in what any one thinks of me, nor do I care. I'm
| not requesting neither any one's blessings, nor forgiveness. If some can't
| understand my circumstances, than that's too bad., but not for me. To me,
it
| makes no difference whatsoever.
|
| "Unknown" wrote:
|
| > You would like us to excuse your lack of honesty because of where you
live??
| > | > > Please man.. No offence, but spare me the legal babble! It makes no
| > > difference in these regions! Around here, you'd be lucky to find
anything
| > > original! If you ask for originals, they'd think you'r out of your
mind,
| > > and
| > > they'd still not supply you with any! I mean, in their mentality
they'd
| > > think: "Why the heck would I buy a program for over $100 when I could
get
| > > it
| > > for less than $3?!"
| > >
| > > My genuine Windows XP was supplied to me by my cosine overseas! I
could
| > > not
| > > find one here! And I payed him for it at full cost! $200.
| > >
| > > And if you think I'm going to stop my education, work, future and life
for
| > > a
| > > foreign law, than you'll have to excuse me if I believe that you might
be
| > > out
| > > of your mind! When and if I travel to a respectable country, I'll
abide by
| > > its laws, which includes, not dealing with pirated software! But until
| > > then,
| > > pirated it will have to be! I have no choice, and I promises that you
| > > would
| > > not do any better under the same circumstances!
| > >
| > > And if you paid attention to what I wrote, you would realize that I'm
not
| > > looking for this so called: "Mulligan"! Please read thoroughly,
| > > understand,
| > > then answer. Or else, if you believe you are such a law abiding
person,
| > > you
| > > would also believe in fair judgment! And yours about me was not.
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > "HeyBub" wrote:
| > >
| > >> Soard666 wrote:
| > >> > If that is what you think. that's so sad. but that's not what I
meant!
| > >> >
| > >>
| > >> It is what he meant. You are asking for a Mulligan. You agreed to a
| > >> contract, gave your word, pledged your integrity, and promised your
| > >> trust.
| > >> Now you want special consideration because of your reluctance to pay
| > >> additional fees.
| > >>
| > >> Your argument that you rebuild computers reminds me of the chap who
was
| > >> trying to sell the very hatchet George Washington used to chop down
the
| > >> cherry tree: "In almost three hundred years, it's had five handles
and
| > >> two
| > >> new heads, but otherwise it's the original."
| > >>
| > >> Do you go to the Cineplex, buy one ticket, and watch six movies?
| > >>
| > >> You already admit to using (at least) one pirated copy of XP. There's
a
| > >> saying in the law: "In a court of equity, one must petition with
clean
| > >> hands." Your hands are not clean. As such, you have no basis for
| > >> liencency.
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| >
| >
| >
 
U

Unknown

Where the he-- are you----in China?
Soard666 said:
May I suggest you move to another country then?! Cause what you are asking
from me is basically the same! (So what part of plain English do you not
understand?!) THERE ARE ALMOST NO ORIGINALS OF ANY KIND OF SOFTWARE IN
THIS
COUNTRY! And I will not put my future and life to a halt just to abide by
a
foreign law! If and when I move to a respectable country, then I'd abide
by
the local laws!

You want to save your precious pockets so bad?! Than move to a country
which
supports pirated software!
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

"I’m not requesting..."
Actually you are.
You are asking Microsoft:
"...if you could please provide some leniency..."

Go back to read your first post in this thread where you did ask.
 
G

Guest

Cause my purpose of posting was not to gain popularity, elections, or confess
my sins. I’m not asking any one to like me, or forgive me. We are discussing
a subject, which has nothing to do with my nature. I’m not on the “Dr. Phillâ€
Show am I?!

You are wasting your own time sir. If any one, like you, is not interested
in replying, than spare your time as well as mine please!

Thank you.


Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
Then why waste your time and everyone else's by posting your drivel.

| I'm not interested at all in what any one thinks of me, nor do I care. I'm
| not requesting neither any one's blessings, nor forgiveness. If some can't
| understand my circumstances, than that's too bad., but not for me. To me,
it
| makes no difference whatsoever.
|
| "Unknown" wrote:
|
| > You would like us to excuse your lack of honesty because of where you
live??
| > | > > Please man.. No offence, but spare me the legal babble! It makes no
| > > difference in these regions! Around here, you'd be lucky to find
anything
| > > original! If you ask for originals, they'd think you'r out of your
mind,
| > > and
| > > they'd still not supply you with any! I mean, in their mentality
they'd
| > > think: "Why the heck would I buy a program for over $100 when I could
get
| > > it
| > > for less than $3?!"
| > >
| > > My genuine Windows XP was supplied to me by my cosine overseas! I
could
| > > not
| > > find one here! And I payed him for it at full cost! $200.
| > >
| > > And if you think I'm going to stop my education, work, future and life
for
| > > a
| > > foreign law, than you'll have to excuse me if I believe that you might
be
| > > out
| > > of your mind! When and if I travel to a respectable country, I'll
abide by
| > > its laws, which includes, not dealing with pirated software! But until
| > > then,
| > > pirated it will have to be! I have no choice, and I promises that you
| > > would
| > > not do any better under the same circumstances!
| > >
| > > And if you paid attention to what I wrote, you would realize that I'm
not
| > > looking for this so called: "Mulligan"! Please read thoroughly,
| > > understand,
| > > then answer. Or else, if you believe you are such a law abiding
person,
| > > you
| > > would also believe in fair judgment! And yours about me was not.
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > "HeyBub" wrote:
| > >
| > >> Soard666 wrote:
| > >> > If that is what you think. that's so sad. but that's not what I
meant!
| > >> >
| > >>
| > >> It is what he meant. You are asking for a Mulligan. You agreed to a
| > >> contract, gave your word, pledged your integrity, and promised your
| > >> trust.
| > >> Now you want special consideration because of your reluctance to pay
| > >> additional fees.
| > >>
| > >> Your argument that you rebuild computers reminds me of the chap who
was
| > >> trying to sell the very hatchet George Washington used to chop down
the
| > >> cherry tree: "In almost three hundred years, it's had five handles
and
| > >> two
| > >> new heads, but otherwise it's the original."
| > >>
| > >> Do you go to the Cineplex, buy one ticket, and watch six movies?
| > >>
| > >> You already admit to using (at least) one pirated copy of XP. There's
a
| > >> saying in the law: "In a court of equity, one must petition with
clean
| > >> hands." Your hands are not clean. As such, you have no basis for
| > >> liencency.
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| >
| >
| >
 
G

Guest

Why don't you stop replying?!
I'll stop pirating when I move to a country that respects copy write!
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

drivel, drivel, drivel.

If you want to have Microsoft react to your rant, contact them. This is a
peer-to-peer newsgroup.


| Cause my purpose of posting was not to gain popularity, elections, or
confess
| my sins. I'm not asking any one to like me, or forgive me. We are
discussing
| a subject, which has nothing to do with my nature. I'm not on the "Dr.
Phill"
| Show am I?!
|
| You are wasting your own time sir. If any one, like you, is not interested
| in replying, than spare your time as well as mine please!
|
| Thank you.
|
|
| "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
|
| > Then why waste your time and everyone else's by posting your drivel.
| >
| > | > | I'm not interested at all in what any one thinks of me, nor do I care.
I'm
| > | not requesting neither any one's blessings, nor forgiveness. If some
can't
| > | understand my circumstances, than that's too bad., but not for me. To
me,
| > it
| > | makes no difference whatsoever.
| > |
| > | "Unknown" wrote:
| > |
| > | > You would like us to excuse your lack of honesty because of where
you
| > live??
| > | > | > | > > Please man.. No offence, but spare me the legal babble! It makes
no
| > | > > difference in these regions! Around here, you'd be lucky to find
| > anything
| > | > > original! If you ask for originals, they'd think you'r out of your
| > mind,
| > | > > and
| > | > > they'd still not supply you with any! I mean, in their mentality
| > they'd
| > | > > think: "Why the heck would I buy a program for over $100 when I
could
| > get
| > | > > it
| > | > > for less than $3?!"
| > | > >
| > | > > My genuine Windows XP was supplied to me by my cosine overseas! I
| > could
| > | > > not
| > | > > find one here! And I payed him for it at full cost! $200.
| > | > >
| > | > > And if you think I'm going to stop my education, work, future and
life
| > for
| > | > > a
| > | > > foreign law, than you'll have to excuse me if I believe that you
might
| > be
| > | > > out
| > | > > of your mind! When and if I travel to a respectable country, I'll
| > abide by
| > | > > its laws, which includes, not dealing with pirated software! But
until
| > | > > then,
| > | > > pirated it will have to be! I have no choice, and I promises that
you
| > | > > would
| > | > > not do any better under the same circumstances!
| > | > >
| > | > > And if you paid attention to what I wrote, you would realize that
I'm
| > not
| > | > > looking for this so called: "Mulligan"! Please read thoroughly,
| > | > > understand,
| > | > > then answer. Or else, if you believe you are such a law abiding
| > person,
| > | > > you
| > | > > would also believe in fair judgment! And yours about me was not.
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > > "HeyBub" wrote:
| > | > >
| > | > >> Soard666 wrote:
| > | > >> > If that is what you think. that's so sad. but that's not what I
| > meant!
| > | > >> >
| > | > >>
| > | > >> It is what he meant. You are asking for a Mulligan. You agreed to
a
| > | > >> contract, gave your word, pledged your integrity, and promised
your
| > | > >> trust.
| > | > >> Now you want special consideration because of your reluctance to
pay
| > | > >> additional fees.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Your argument that you rebuild computers reminds me of the chap
who
| > was
| > | > >> trying to sell the very hatchet George Washington used to chop
down
| > the
| > | > >> cherry tree: "In almost three hundred years, it's had five
handles
| > and
| > | > >> two
| > | > >> new heads, but otherwise it's the original."
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Do you go to the Cineplex, buy one ticket, and watch six movies?
| > | > >>
| > | > >> You already admit to using (at least) one pirated copy of XP.
There's
| > a
| > | > >> saying in the law: "In a court of equity, one must petition with
| > clean
| > | > >> hands." Your hands are not clean. As such, you have no basis for
| > | > >> liencency.
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >
 
G

Guest

Please read and understand all what I said in that paragraph, not just a
piece of it, and I quote: “I’m not requesting NIETHER ANY ONE’S BLESSINGS,
NOR FORGIVENESS.†That is what I’M NOT REQUESTING. Do you understand now sir?

I’m really sorry if this paragraph might have offended some people, I really
do not mean any offence to any one, but some people are diverting from the
subject! If I wanted to ask for a personal judgment, I’d go to a church! This
is not what I’m searching for! Where did I ever ask for any one’s point of
view about me?!
 
G

Guest

I'm not asking for your personal assistance, thank you very much, some
people, unlike you, were far more understanding and helpful. Are they sinners
too?! After all, they are talking to a criminal who buys and uses pirated
software, so would that be considered solicitation in your point of view good
sir?!
 
G

Guest

I wish things were as easy as you think kind sir, but they are not. Some
times you have to put ethics aside, or they would kill you! Ever herd of the
expression “Nice guys finish last� Well, that is so true!

Any way, do you think I’m the only one who uses pirated copies? Try over
1000,000,000 others like me world wide, including in the U.S. itself! Some
might say: “You can start with your self, you can make a difference…†If
you’re a logical person, you will realize that that’s just a bunch of
baloney! I would only destroy my self over a worthless cause…
 
U

Unknown

I don't give assistance to dishonest people. Other people more understanding
and helpful were just trying to steer you straight. However judging from
your posts that is an impossibility.
 

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