Quick question

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Flash

Running IE8 with all updates and thinking about going to IE9. Is there
a site that will check out my system and step me thru this.

TIA
 
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Bruce Hagen

Flash said:
Running IE8 with all updates and thinking about going to IE9. Is there
a site that will check out my system and step me thru this.

TIA



Not gonna happen. IE8 is the last version that will run on XP.
 
F

Flash

Bruce said:
Not gonna happen. IE8 is the last version that will run on XP.

I was hoping that this would not be the case. I don't think my system
will update to win 7.
Thanks Bruce
 
B

Bruce Hagen

Flash said:
I was hoping that this would not be the case. I don't think my system will
update to win 7.
Thanks Bruce



YW. Considering that support for XP ends April 8th, I don't see much of an
advantage to load IE9 even if you could.
 
P

Paul

Flash said:
I was hoping that this would not be the case. I don't think my system
will update to win 7.
Thanks Bruce

You can keep using WinXP for as long as you want. The trick,
is to extend its usefulness, by using virtual machine software.
A limiting resource on older computers, is RAM memory. And
a computer with at least 2GB would be recommended for this.

You can use VPC2007 (and download the Windows Virtual PC
virtual machines for that environment). Or, you can use
VirtualBox, and try running Windows 8 on top of WinXP.
For best results, your processor should meet at least
some of the Windows 8 requirements (so something better
than a P4 would be recommended to run Windows 8 in a VM).
Running Windows 7 in a VM, is a lot easier, and it'll allow
testing of relatively recent versions of Internet Explorer.

http://www.modern.ie/en-us/virtualization-tools#downloads

Those virtual machines were created, to give web developers
an easy way to test a bunch of different versions of
Internet Explorer. Which is exactly what you'll be doing :)

The OSes are not activated, and the license key is no good
for long term usage. You save the downloaded file from that
web site (don't throw the download away, save it for later).
You can rearm an OS of this type with

slmgr /rearm (Vista or later)
rundll32.exe syssetup,SetupOobeBnk (WinXP as a VM)

When the guest OS won't rearm any more, you toss the .vhd
file, go back to the original download, unzip it again,
and use a fresh copy of the .vhd and start all over
again.

It's not "totally convenient", but it does afford a chance
to try things you might not otherwise get an opportunity
to try.

And just for fun, this is Windows 8.1 running on top of
Windows 8.1, using VirtualBox as hosting software. Both copies
of the OS in this case, were the Preview version which expired
Jan.2014. So this isn't Windows 8.1 on WinXP or anything, but
it does show the fun you can have. The computer should
have about 2GB of RAM, to allow you to set up a 1GB virtual
machine, and have some left for other work. And a processor
better than a P4 for hardware (as at least in the case of
Windows 8.1, there may be instruction set requirements to meet,
that the P4 doesn't have).

http://imageshack.us/a/img543/2181/x64.gif

You will need a pretty healthy broadband connection,
to download those VMs, as they're a large download.
Some of them, come as four separate files, which
unzip as a set.

Paul
 
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philo 

B

Bruce Hagen

philo said:
Of course if you use another browser such as Firefox or Chrome, the
updates for those browsers will continue.


Also, Microsoft was going to drop support for MSE on XP as well...but now
they are going to postpone that until July, 2015

http://arstechnica.com/information-...ials-for-windows-xp-gets-a-15-month-reprieve/


XP should still be viable for a while yet,



I saw the MSE announcement here on January 15.
http://blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive/2014/01/15/microsoft-antimalware-support-for-windows-xp.aspx

Although I am running Win7 on my laptop and desktop, they both have multiple
browsers. AFAIC, it's always good to have more than one.

And of course, XP won't go "poof" April 8th. As long as I had a decent
security program, I wouldn't be afraid to continue using it for quite some
time.
 
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philo 

On 01/29/2014 09:29 AM, Bruce Hagen wrote:
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I saw the MSE announcement here on January 15.
http://blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive/2014/01/15/microsoft-antimalware-support-for-windows-xp.aspx


Although I am running Win7 on my laptop and desktop, they both have
multiple browsers. AFAIC, it's always good to have more than one.

And of course, XP won't go "poof" April 8th. As long as I had a decent
security program, I wouldn't be afraid to continue using it for quite
some time.


Within the past few months I got a few machines in that had no updates
past SP2

They did at least have an AV


Other than a few minor "pups" they were actually pretty clean.
 
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Bruce Hagen

philo said:
On 01/29/2014 09:29 AM, Bruce Hagen wrote:
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Within the past few months I got a few machines in that had no updates
past SP2

They did at least have an AV


Other than a few minor "pups" they were actually pretty clean.



Agreed. That shows the the AV is the key. Support for XP SP2 ended on July
13, 2010 and those "pups" find their way in no matter what OS or secutiry
program.
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message <[email protected]>, Bruce Hagen
And of course, XP won't go "poof" April 8th. As long as I had a decent
security program, I wouldn't be afraid to continue using it for quite
some time.
Do we take it from "had" and "wouldn't" that you _don't_ and thus
_won't_?
 
B

Bruce Hagen

J. P. Gilliver (John) said:
In message <[email protected]>, Bruce Hagen <[email protected]>
writes:
[]
And of course, XP won't go "poof" April 8th. As long as I had a decent
security program, I wouldn't be afraid to continue using it for quite some
time.
Do we take it from "had" and "wouldn't" that you _don't_ and thus _won't_?
--



"If I had" to me obviously means I do not have, at least in the English I
use. So that make "won't" a moot point because I can't.
 

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