Over 100 Registry errors identified on new Dell

D

Dick

My new Dell Dimension 2400 computer came with AOL 9.0, WordPerfect
Office 11, Quick Time, MS Money 2004, RealOne Player, QuickTime, Norton
Antivirus 2003, and Sun Java preinstalled.
I have subsequently installing MS Office 2003, Norton System Works 2003,
Adobe Reader 6.0, Mozilla 1.5, WinZip, HP PhotoSmart Printer software,
and Iomega Backup and installed all of the Office 2003 and Windows XP
critical updates.
I ran Norton WinDoctor on my new Dell computer and had well over 100
problems were identified. There were quite a few Microsoft Java VM
entries left over that I was able to get rid of and I also got rid of or
corrected entries where I felt like I was confident in what I was doing
and agreed with the Norton WinDoctor recommendation.
The biggest problem I have left is with the 21 Missing or Invalid
ActiveX/COM SubKey Entries that refer to an invalid application
identifier which does not give any program or file related information
in relation to the identified problem.
I tried doing a mass update following all of the WinDoctors
recommendations in the beginning and promptly lost my Dell Support
Alerts and went back and put everything back in and started looking at
everyone of them one at a time.
So now I am down to only about 40 problems listed below which I could
use some help with. Norton WinDoctor is recommending that all of the
remaining 40 or so entries be deleted.


Missing Microsoft Shared DDL Errors: (not anywhere on hard drive)
C:\WINDOWS\System32\DIMM.DLL
C:\WINDOWS\System32\msxml3a.dll

Missing Help File Entries: (not anywhere on hard drive)
C:\Program Files\Common Files\SYSTEM\MSMAPI\1033\scanpst.hlp

Missing or Invalid Application Entries: (not anywhere on hard drive)
SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\cmmgr32.exe
refers to an invalid application path, "C:\WINDOWS\System32\cmmgr32.exe"
SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\MOH.exe
refers to an invalid application path, "C:\Program Files\NetWaiting\MOH.exe"
SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\VcSetup.exe
refers to an invalid application path,
"C:\DOCUME~1\MeMyComputer\LOCALS~1\Temp\pft62.tmp\VcSetup.exe"

Invalid File Extensions:
.wll "WordAddin8"

Invalid ActiveX/COM Entries
I have 21 of these entries listed: (No program or file related info give)
Missing or Invalid ActiveX/COM SubKey Entries:
The key: "CLSID\{.......}" refers to an invalid application
Identifier, "{.......}"

Missing or Invalid Key: ADCS
ProgID, ADCS refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM entry
"{89E30300-764D-11d0-B282-00A0C90F56FC"

Missing or Invalid Key: AtWorkRendering\shell\PrintTo\command
The key, AtWorkRendering\shell\PrintTo\command refers to an invalid
command entry, "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
Data\Dell\Alert\0."

Missing or Invalid Key: ComPlusMetaData.MsCorHost
ProgID, ComPlusMetaData.MsCorHost refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM
entry, "{727CDF4F-3BA0-11D3-8738-00C04F79ED0D}"

Missing or Invalid Key: ComPlusMetaData.MsCorHost.2
ProgID, ComPlusMetaData.MsCorHost.2 refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM
entry, "{727CDF4F-3BA0-11D3-8738-00C04F79ED0D}"

Missing or Invalid Key: Connection Manager Profile\shell\open\command
The key, Connection Manager Profile\shell\open\command refers to an
invalid command entry, "C:\WINDOWS\System32\CMMGR32.EXE "%1"

Missing or Invalid Key: HeaderFooter.HeaderFooter.1
ProgID, HeaderFooter.HeaderFooter.1 refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM
entry, "{30c3f6cd-98b5-11cf-bb82-00aa00bdce0b}"

Missing or Invalid Key: igfx.CUITestConfig.1
ProgID, igfx.CUITestConfig.1 refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM entry, "c."

Missing or Invalid Key: MailFileAtt
ProgID, MailFileAtt refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM entry,
"{00020D05-0000-0000-C000-000000000046}"

Missing or Invalid Key: mapifvbx.object
ProgID, mapifvbx.object refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM entry,
"{41116C00-8B90-101B-96CD-00AA003B14FC}"

Missing or Invalid Key: "mapifvbx.object.1"
ProgID, mapifvbx.object.1 refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM entry,
"{41116C00-8B90-101B-96CD-00AA003B14FC}"

Missing or Invalid Key: SymWriter.pdb
ProgID, SymWriter.pdb refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM entry,
"{520DC67A-752E-11D3-8D56-00C04F680B2B}"

Missing or Invalid Key: WBEMComConnection
ProgID, WBEMComConnection," refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM entry,
"SOFTWARE\CLASSES\WBEMComConnection"

Missing or Invalid Key: WBEMComLocator
ProgID, WBEMComLocator refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM entry,
"SOFTWARE\CLASSES\WBEMComLocator"

Missing or Invalid Key:
CLSID\{42071714-76d4-11d1-8b24-00a0c9068ff3}\InprocServer32
The key, CLSID\{42071714-76d4-11d1-8b24-00a0c9068ff3}\InprocServer32
refers to a missing file, "deskpan.dll"

Missing or Invalid Key:
"CLSID\{4D2F086C-6EA3-101B-A18A-00AA00446E07}\InprocServer"
The key, CLSID\{4D2F086C-6EA3-101B-A18A-00AA00446E07}\InprocServer
refers to a missing file, "mapi.dll."

Missing or Invalid Key:
CLSID\{88E729D6-BDC1-11D1-BD2A-00C04FB9603F}\InprocServer32
The key, CLSID\{88E729D6-BDC1-11D1-BD2A-00C04FB9603F}\InprocServer32
refers to a missing file, "fde.dll."

Missing or Invalid Key:
"CLSID\{A2524FF1-50C1-11d3-8EA3-0090271BECDD}\InprocServer32"
The key, CLSID\{A2524FF1-50C1-11d3-8EA3-0090271BECDD}\InprocServer32
refers to a missing file, "c:\Program Files\WordPerfect Office
11\Programs\."

Thanks Dick
 
G

Guest

If it ain't broke don't try to fix it.......lol. There is
more crap that you may ever need (probably more than 1/2)
on your system, But when you do call norton........lol
 
R

R. McCarty

Dell needs to offer users the option of a baseline install without
the AOL, Real Audio and other junk that turns a brand new PC
into a cluttered up mess. Just this week I had a client return a new
HP notebook because as he said "It runs worse than my existing
computer."
 
L

Lem

Dick said:
My new Dell Dimension 2400 computer came with AOL 9.0, WordPerfect
Office 11, Quick Time, MS Money 2004, RealOne Player, QuickTime, Norton
Antivirus 2003, and Sun Java preinstalled.
I have subsequently installing MS Office 2003, Norton System Works 2003,
Adobe Reader 6.0, Mozilla 1.5, WinZip, HP PhotoSmart Printer software,
and Iomega Backup and installed all of the Office 2003 and Windows XP
critical updates.
I ran Norton WinDoctor on my new Dell computer and had well over 100
problems were identified. There were quite a few Microsoft Java VM
entries left over that I was able to get rid of and I also got rid of or
corrected entries where I felt like I was confident in what I was doing
and agreed with the Norton WinDoctor recommendation.
The biggest problem I have left is with the 21 Missing or Invalid
ActiveX/COM SubKey Entries that refer to an invalid application
identifier which does not give any program or file related information
in relation to the identified problem.
I tried doing a mass update following all of the WinDoctors
recommendations in the beginning and promptly lost my Dell Support
Alerts and went back and put everything back in and started looking at
everyone of them one at a time.
So now I am down to only about 40 problems listed below which I could
use some help with. Norton WinDoctor is recommending that all of the
remaining 40 or so entries be deleted.

Missing Microsoft Shared DDL Errors: (not anywhere on hard drive)
C:\WINDOWS\System32\DIMM.DLL
C:\WINDOWS\System32\msxml3a.dll

Missing Help File Entries: (not anywhere on hard drive)
C:\Program Files\Common Files\SYSTEM\MSMAPI\1033\scanpst.hlp

Missing or Invalid Application Entries: (not anywhere on hard drive)
SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\cmmgr32.exe
refers to an invalid application path, "C:\WINDOWS\System32\cmmgr32.exe"
SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\MOH.exe
refers to an invalid application path, "C:\Program Files\NetWaiting\MOH.exe"
SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\VcSetup.exe
refers to an invalid application path,
"C:\DOCUME~1\MeMyComputer\LOCALS~1\Temp\pft62.tmp\VcSetup.exe"

Invalid File Extensions:
.wll "WordAddin8"

Invalid ActiveX/COM Entries
I have 21 of these entries listed: (No program or file related info give)
Missing or Invalid ActiveX/COM SubKey Entries:
The key: "CLSID\{.......}" refers to an invalid application
Identifier, "{.......}"

Missing or Invalid Key: ADCS
ProgID, ADCS refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM entry
"{89E30300-764D-11d0-B282-00A0C90F56FC"

Missing or Invalid Key: AtWorkRendering\shell\PrintTo\command
The key, AtWorkRendering\shell\PrintTo\command refers to an invalid
command entry, "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
Data\Dell\Alert\0."

Missing or Invalid Key: ComPlusMetaData.MsCorHost
ProgID, ComPlusMetaData.MsCorHost refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM
entry, "{727CDF4F-3BA0-11D3-8738-00C04F79ED0D}"

Missing or Invalid Key: ComPlusMetaData.MsCorHost.2
ProgID, ComPlusMetaData.MsCorHost.2 refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM
entry, "{727CDF4F-3BA0-11D3-8738-00C04F79ED0D}"

Missing or Invalid Key: Connection Manager Profile\shell\open\command
The key, Connection Manager Profile\shell\open\command refers to an
invalid command entry, "C:\WINDOWS\System32\CMMGR32.EXE "%1"

Missing or Invalid Key: HeaderFooter.HeaderFooter.1
ProgID, HeaderFooter.HeaderFooter.1 refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM
entry, "{30c3f6cd-98b5-11cf-bb82-00aa00bdce0b}"

Missing or Invalid Key: igfx.CUITestConfig.1
ProgID, igfx.CUITestConfig.1 refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM entry, "c."

Missing or Invalid Key: MailFileAtt
ProgID, MailFileAtt refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM entry,
"{00020D05-0000-0000-C000-000000000046}"

Missing or Invalid Key: mapifvbx.object
ProgID, mapifvbx.object refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM entry,
"{41116C00-8B90-101B-96CD-00AA003B14FC}"

Missing or Invalid Key: "mapifvbx.object.1"
ProgID, mapifvbx.object.1 refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM entry,
"{41116C00-8B90-101B-96CD-00AA003B14FC}"

Missing or Invalid Key: SymWriter.pdb
ProgID, SymWriter.pdb refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM entry,
"{520DC67A-752E-11D3-8D56-00C04F680B2B}"

Missing or Invalid Key: WBEMComConnection
ProgID, WBEMComConnection," refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM entry,
"SOFTWARE\CLASSES\WBEMComConnection"

Missing or Invalid Key: WBEMComLocator
ProgID, WBEMComLocator refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM entry,
"SOFTWARE\CLASSES\WBEMComLocator"

Missing or Invalid Key:
CLSID\{42071714-76d4-11d1-8b24-00a0c9068ff3}\InprocServer32
The key, CLSID\{42071714-76d4-11d1-8b24-00a0c9068ff3}\InprocServer32
refers to a missing file, "deskpan.dll"

Missing or Invalid Key:
"CLSID\{4D2F086C-6EA3-101B-A18A-00AA00446E07}\InprocServer"
The key, CLSID\{4D2F086C-6EA3-101B-A18A-00AA00446E07}\InprocServer
refers to a missing file, "mapi.dll."

Missing or Invalid Key:
CLSID\{88E729D6-BDC1-11D1-BD2A-00C04FB9603F}\InprocServer32
The key, CLSID\{88E729D6-BDC1-11D1-BD2A-00C04FB9603F}\InprocServer32
refers to a missing file, "fde.dll."

Missing or Invalid Key:
"CLSID\{A2524FF1-50C1-11d3-8EA3-0090271BECDD}\InprocServer32"
The key, CLSID\{A2524FF1-50C1-11d3-8EA3-0090271BECDD}\InprocServer32
refers to a missing file, "c:\Program Files\WordPerfect Office
11\Programs\."

Thanks Dick

Other than the dire warnings from WinDoctor, is anything not working? I like
Norton a/v, but I'm not sure that the rest of their "suite" applications are
worth a whole lot -- and in particular, things like registry cleaners and
"Doctors" often cause far more problems than they "cure."

Most, if not all, of these "errors" are simply references to applications and
features that you haven't installed. cmmgr32.exe, for example, is (I think) the
Microsoft Connection Manager. As near as I can tell, this has something to do
with setting up virtual private networks.

The bottom line is that if everything is working OK, don't try to "fix" things
by messing around in the registry. As you've discovered, the likely result is
that something bad will happen.
 
P

PA Bear

IMHO, start here: http://support.dell.com/, assuming you want your Dell
warranty to remain in effect.

Also check out "Dell Policy Forbids Spyware Removal Support" at
http://216.180.233.153/~swidotcom/2.html.

You may wish to replace the OEM WinXP with the Retail product, Dick.

By now you should have:

- enabled WinXP's built-in firewall or enabled a third-party one (not both)

- installed all recommended updates via Windows Update

- installed an anti-virus application, updated its virus definitions and
then run a full system scan. (Do the latter two every day you use your
machine.)

You may also want to check your system for "hijackware":

Dealing with Hijackware
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/Darnit.htm#tshoot
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm

You *must* seek updates for Ad-Aware, Spybot, etc., before each and every
use, even "right out of the box". But even then, they can't catch
everything. HijackThis
(http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/hijackthis.zip) is the preferred
tool to use these days. It will help to both identify and remove any
hijackware/spyware. **Post your files to http://forums.spywareinfo.com/,
not here.**

Also update your virus definitions and then run a full system scan. From
now on, do both daily.
--
HTH...Please post back to this thread

~Robear Dyer (aka PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

Protect Your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/default.asp
 
D

Dick

Everything is working just fine. I do not have any problems at all in
fact it is running like a champ. I just do not like loose ends. I
thought maybe someone could help me with some specific advise about some
of the stuff I have left to fix but it looks like I will just have to
keep at it myself which is ok. Many of the problems I fixed were due to
Dell uninstalling MS Java VM and then installing Sun Java and not
getting rid of all the MS Java VM registry entries which were very easy
to identify and since MS won't be supporting Java VM much longer I am
glad to be rid of it. Many of the other entries were related to the Word
Perfect Office suite which I could care less if it bombs out on me or
not and if I did make some mistakes and I don't think I did then I have
the disks to reinstall it if I do decide I need it. Well you did make me
smile though.

Dick
 
D

Dick

Everything is just fine. I agree with you if I am not sure what I am
doing I will be careful about deleteing something even if Norton
WinDoctor advises me to do so, although it does have a restore from
history if I need it.

Thanks.

Dick
 
R

R. McCarty

For a good Registry cleanup check out RegSeeker. It does a
comprehensive job and unlike other Registry Cleaners doesn't
seem to nick necessary CLSID's and other important keys.
For best results run it repetitively 2 or 3 times as Registry keys
are removed, more disassociated keys will be identified on
subsequent passes. Just a reminder, before running ANY type
of Registry cleanup/modifier be sure your system is backed up.

The software is available from
http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm
 
J

Jack

Download and install the following:
-AdAware from http://www.lavasoftusa.com/
-Spybot from http://www.safer-networking.org/
Both are real spy-registry checkers. Run Adware first
(read guide prior to go) and clear suspicious entries.
Then run Spybot.

-----Original Message-----
My new Dell Dimension 2400 computer came with AOL 9.0, WordPerfect
Office 11, Quick Time, MS Money 2004, RealOne Player, QuickTime, Norton
Antivirus 2003, and Sun Java preinstalled.
I have subsequently installing MS Office 2003, Norton System Works 2003,
Adobe Reader 6.0, Mozilla 1.5, WinZip, HP PhotoSmart Printer software,
and Iomega Backup and installed all of the Office 2003 and Windows XP
critical updates.
I ran Norton WinDoctor on my new Dell computer and had well over 100
problems were identified. There were quite a few Microsoft Java VM
entries left over that I was able to get rid of and I also got rid of or
corrected entries where I felt like I was confident in what I was doing
and agreed with the Norton WinDoctor recommendation.
The biggest problem I have left is with the 21 Missing or Invalid
ActiveX/COM SubKey Entries that refer to an invalid application
identifier which does not give any program or file related information
in relation to the identified problem.
I tried doing a mass update following all of the WinDoctors
recommendations in the beginning and promptly lost my Dell Support
Alerts and went back and put everything back in and started looking at
everyone of them one at a time.
So now I am down to only about 40 problems listed below which I could
use some help with. Norton WinDoctor is recommending that all of the
remaining 40 or so entries be deleted.


Missing Microsoft Shared DDL Errors: (not anywhere on hard drive)
C:\WINDOWS\System32\DIMM.DLL
C:\WINDOWS\System32\msxml3a.dll

Missing Help File Entries: (not anywhere on hard drive)
C:\Program Files\Common Files\SYSTEM\MSMAPI\1033 \scanpst.hlp

Missing or Invalid Application Entries: (not anywhere on hard drive)
SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\cmmgr32.exe
refers to an invalid application
path, "C:\WINDOWS\System32\cmmgr32.exe"
SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\MOH.exe
refers to an invalid application path, "C:\Program Files\NetWaiting\MOH.exe"
Paths\VcSetup.exe
refers to an invalid application path,
"C:\DOCUME~1\MeMyComputer\LOCALS~1 \Temp\pft62.tmp\VcSetup.exe"

Invalid File Extensions:
.wll "WordAddin8"

Invalid ActiveX/COM Entries
I have 21 of these entries listed: (No program or file related info give)
Missing or Invalid ActiveX/COM SubKey Entries:
The key: "CLSID\{.......}" refers to an invalid application
Identifier, "{.......}"

Missing or Invalid Key: ADCS
ProgID, ADCS refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM entry
"{89E30300-764D-11d0-B282-00A0C90F56FC"

Missing or Invalid Key: AtWorkRendering\shell\PrintTo\command
The key, AtWorkRendering\shell\PrintTo\command refers to an invalid
command entry, "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
Data\Dell\Alert\0."

Missing or Invalid Key: ComPlusMetaData.MsCorHost
ProgID, ComPlusMetaData.MsCorHost refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM
entry, "{727CDF4F-3BA0-11D3-8738-00C04F79ED0D}"

Missing or Invalid Key: ComPlusMetaData.MsCorHost.2
ProgID, ComPlusMetaData.MsCorHost.2 refers to an invalid ActiveX/COM
entry, "{727CDF4F-3BA0-11D3-8738-00C04F79ED0D}"

Missing or Invalid Key: Connection Manager Profile\shell\open\command
The key, Connection Manager
Profile\shell\open\command refers to an
 
D

Dick

There is no virus or spy wear on my machine I checked all that out very
carefully. I use Norton Anti Virus and do regular scans and have used
both SpyBot and AdAware and found nothing there that was suspicious. I
have been doing 99% of my web surfing on my old PC that has Norton
Internet Security loaded on it until I get everything fixed up on the
new one the way I like it. I want to use one of the free firewalls with
my Norton Antivirus until that subsription runs out then maybe I will go
back to using Norton Internet Security again. Actually with all the
discounts you can find you can usually get it real cheap and you are
getting both a firewall and an antivirus program. I have been testing
Sygate and Zone Alarm so far on my old computer and so far Zone Alarm
seems to run a little smother don't know which does the better job though

Dick
 
D

Dick

I spent about 10-12 hours a day for the last 3 days going through the
list of entries using Google and Microsoft Knowledge base and I ended up
agreeing that Norton WinDoctor was correct in deleting these entries. I
have my history set to keep these entries there forever at least until I
decide otherwise so I can recover the ones I am least sure about. Now
onto the next problem. How to get Norton Disk Doctor to do a complete
scan of the files on my hard drive. It told me there were bad security
descriptors on my C: drive but could not fix it. I managed to get CHKDSK
to fix it and NDD agreed that it was fixed, but NDD still could not do a
complete scan of all my C: drive but CHKDSK running at startup said
everything is A ok now. I guess NDD can't do a complete scan on the a
NTFS partition if the PageFile.sys resides these or the windows
directory files are on the drive, bummer. I have used Norton Utilities
going all the way back to the mid 80s on my Fat Mac so I hate to see the
loss of this important function in their suite. Can you believe that
back somewhere around 1987 I spent $3000 for a Mac with 512K of memory
with no hard drive and a printer. I don't know what the cost of living
is now compared to then but I would guess it would be equivalent to
$6000 or more in todays dollars.

Thanks
 
L

Locoweed

My suggestion is to delete Norton Win Doctor.


Dick said:
There is no virus or spy wear on my machine I checked all that out very
carefully. I use Norton Anti Virus and do regular scans and have used
both SpyBot and AdAware and found nothing there that was suspicious. I
have been doing 99% of my web surfing on my old PC that has Norton
Internet Security loaded on it until I get everything fixed up on the
new one the way I like it. I want to use one of the free firewalls with
my Norton Antivirus until that subsription runs out then maybe I will go
back to using Norton Internet Security again. Actually with all the
discounts you can find you can usually get it real cheap and you are
getting both a firewall and an antivirus program. I have been testing
Sygate and Zone Alarm so far on my old computer and so far Zone Alarm
seems to run a little smother don't know which does the better job though

Dick
 
D

dbguerrero

Disagreeing strongly with Locoweed's suggestion, ALTHOUGH if one doesn'
know how best to use WinDoctor then indeed DON'T use it.
On a DELL having about 100 to 200 registry errors on 1st customer boo
is NORMAL (Seriously) and I used to work for Dell. ALL Window
machines, even a freshly debugged, fdisked, formatted, and installe
windows and ONLY windows WILL have registry errors (blame Bill Gates o
at least his Software). ALSO Dell uses a mass install image (nickname
ZZTOP) and because programs aren't installed one at a time it increase
the number of registry errors badly. IF you know what you are doing
then yes use windoctor, but NEVER let it fix automatically, you want t
see WHAT it is doing on each change (i.e it is FINE to let it remove a
invalid entry that is currently attached to nothing (which is what mos
new Windows install errors are) but you want it removed, NOT attached t
a program that has nothing to do with it. Same is true (on late
windoctor uses) say for example it finds a missing uninstall file fo
the program AdAware. It's GREAT if it wants to attach the missin
uninstall command to c:\lavasoft\adaware\uninstall.ini BUT if it want
to attach it to c:\games\quake\uninstall.ini - you get the idea. Yo
have to watch it and choose the sanest/most common sense response fo
each one.

My suggestion is to delete Norton Win Doctor.


"Dick" (e-mail address removed) wrote in message
 
B

Bruce Chambers

dbguerrero said:
On a DELL having about 100 to 200 registry errors on 1st customer boot
is NORMAL (Seriously) and I used to work for Dell. ALL Windows
machines, even a freshly debugged, fdisked, formatted, and installed
windows and ONLY windows WILL have registry errors (blame Bill Gates or
at least his Software).



Wouldn't it make more sense to blame the Snake Oil "remedy" for the
falsely reported errors built-in to "prove" that the product actually
does something?


--

Bruce Chambers

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