One computer can't see the other.

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Guest

I am new at this networking jargon, but i'll give it a try. I have a home
network of two computers. They both are running Windows XP Home Edition..My
ICS is working fine, but Computer 1(host) gatewaycomputer, cannot see
computer 2(client). But computer 2(client) CAN see Computer 1(host). I've
checked all of the settings I can find and every thing appears normal, but of
course it is not..My two little network computers on the taskbar at bottom of
page says the status is "connected." Will appreciate any ideas to try..
Dean
 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]

Dean said:
I am new at this networking jargon, but i'll give it a try. I have a home
network of two computers. They both are running Windows XP Home Edition..My
ICS is working fine, but Computer 1(host) gatewaycomputer, cannot see
computer 2(client). But computer 2(client) CAN see Computer 1(host). I've
checked all of the settings I can find and every thing appears normal, but of
course it is not..My two little network computers on the taskbar at bottom of
page says the status is "connected." Will appreciate any ideas to try..
Dean

The most likely problem is that a firewall (Norton, McAfee, ZoneAlarm,
PC-cillin, etc) on the client is blocking access from the host.
Configure any firewall to allow access by other computers on the local
area network.

Note that some recent antivirus programs have firewall components that
have to be configured. An example is Norton Antivirus' "Internet Worm
Protection".
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Guest

Thanks for the reply Steve...At the moment the only firewalls I have are the
ones that come with Windows XP Home Edition. And I don't have any Antivirus
program installed yet..I just began with Satellite Internet Service and
trying to get a network set up which I could not do when I had dial up..
I read somewhere(think Microsofts KB) that I should only have a firewall on
my host computer because if I have it on both it will disrupt local network
communications...so I turned the firewall off on my client computer. How do I
configure my firewall to allow access by other computers on the local area
network?
Thanks,
Dean
 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]

Dean said:
Thanks for the reply Steve...At the moment the only firewalls I have are the
ones that come with Windows XP Home Edition. And I don't have any Antivirus
program installed yet..I just began with Satellite Internet Service and
trying to get a network set up which I could not do when I had dial up..
I read somewhere(think Microsofts KB) that I should only have a firewall on
my host computer because if I have it on both it will disrupt local network
communications...so I turned the firewall off on my client computer. How do I
configure my firewall to allow access by other computers on the local area
network?
Thanks,
Dean

It's OK to run the Windows Firewall on the client computer, and I
disagree with the Microsoft KB if it says not to.

Run the Network Setup Wizard on the client computer. If the Wizard
detects the host's shared Internet connection, tell it to use that
connection. Otherwise, tell the Wizard that the computer connects to
the Internet through another computer. Tell the Wizard to enable file
and printer sharing.

Go to Control Panel > Security Center and look at the firewall status.
If it says that Windows Firewall is enabled, that's OK. If it shows a
non-Microsoft firewall or says that more than one firewall is enabled,
you'll have to find the other firewall program.

Test communication between the computers by typing these lines at a
command prompt (Start > Run > cmd) on each computer. Substitute the
actual computer names and IP addresses:

ping 192.168.0.2
ping client
net view \\client

ping 192.168.0.1
ping host
net view \\host

Each "ping" command should receive four replies. Each "net view"
command should show that computer's shared folders.
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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G

Guest

Okay Steve, I ran the Network setup wizard again on the client computer, but
where do I find my IP addresses? I opened the Internet Protocol(TCP/IP)
properties box and it says my IP addresses are obtained automatically...Is
there another place I can find them?
Dean
 
S

Steve Winograd [MVP]

Dean said:
Okay Steve, I ran the Network setup wizard again on the client computer, but
where do I find my IP addresses? I opened the Internet Protocol(TCP/IP)
properties box and it says my IP addresses are obtained automatically...Is
there another place I can find them?
Dean

To find the IP address:

1. Open the Network Connections folder.
2. Right-click the Local Area Network connection.
3. Click Status.
4. Click Support.

The host computer should have 192.168.0.1. The client computer should
have an address in the range 192.168.0.2-192.168.0.254.
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Guest

I'm not sure I'm doing this right Steve, but on the command prompt at my host
computer I type in:
ping 192.168.0.102 and hit enter...I only see three packets, no fourth and
the dos screen(I guess it is a dos screen with black background) doesn't stay
up but a few moments...not hardly long enough to read. I does this from the
command prompt on my host machine and my client machine when I ping the host.
For net view on my host computer, I type in at the prompt: net
view\\192.168.0.102, hit enter, and the black screen just flashes for an
instant, not long enough to read anything.. Am I doing it correctly?
Dean
 
S

Steve Winograd [MVP]

Dean said:
I'm not sure I'm doing this right Steve, but on the command prompt at my host
computer I type in:
ping 192.168.0.102 and hit enter...I only see three packets, no fourth and
the dos screen(I guess it is a dos screen with black background) doesn't stay
up but a few moments...not hardly long enough to read. I does this from the
command prompt on my host machine and my client machine when I ping the host.
For net view on my host computer, I type in at the prompt: net
view\\192.168.0.102, hit enter, and the black screen just flashes for an
instant, not long enough to read anything.. Am I doing it correctly?
Dean

Open a command prompt window (Start > Run > cmd) first, Dean:

1. Click the Start button.
2. Click Run.
3. In the Run window, type "cmd" in the box.
4. Click OK.

Then type the commands in the command prompt window. To close the
window, type the command "exit".

If there's no Run command in the Start menu, press the Windows key and
"R" key at the same time to open the Run window.

Or, click Start > All Programs > Accessories > Command Prompt.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Guest

SUCCESS!! Steve....worked perfectly..I appreciate your time and patience
Steve..I learned some new things from you... I got all four packets back on
both computers.
Dean
 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]

Dean said:
SUCCESS!! Steve....worked perfectly..I appreciate your time and patience
Steve..I learned some new things from you... I got all four packets back on
both computers.
Dean

That's good. What's the result of typing the two "net view" commands
on each computer?
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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Guest

Steve,
I get the same results on both computers...it doesn't appear to be my shared
folders. It was:
The syntax of this command is:

Net [ accounts computer config continue file group help
helping localgroup name pause print sent dsession
share start statistics stop time use user view ]

Dean
 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]

Dean said:
Steve Winograd said:
That's good. What's the result of typing the two "net view" commands
on each computer?

Steve,
I get the same results on both computers...it doesn't appear to be my shared
folders. It was:
The syntax of this command is:

Net [ accounts computer config continue file group help
helping localgroup name pause print sent dsession
share start statistics stop time use user view ]

Dean

The form of the command is:

net view \\computer

Substitute the actual computer name.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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G

Guest

Okay Steve got it right finally..lol!!
When I net view from the client computer to the host computer I get my
shared folders, and it says "The command completed successfully." When I new
view from my host computer to my client computer I get a message that says
Network Path Not Found. So I guess my Host is still not seeing the client
computer even though the folders are showing up in Windows Explorer/My
network Places. When I click on the shared folders in My Network Places(on
the host) I get essentially the same message...Network Path Not Found.

Steve Winograd said:
Dean said:
Steve Winograd said:
I'm not sure I'm doing this right Steve, but on the command prompt at my host
computer I type in:
ping 192.168.0.102 and hit enter...I only see three packets, no fourth and
the dos screen(I guess it is a dos screen with black background) doesn't stay
up but a few moments...not hardly long enough to read. I does this from the
command prompt on my host machine and my client machine when I ping the host.
For net view on my host computer, I type in at the prompt: net
view\\192.168.0.102, hit enter, and the black screen just flashes for an
instant, not long enough to read anything.. Am I doing it correctly?
Dean

Open a command prompt window (Start > Run > cmd) first, Dean:

1. Click the Start button.
2. Click Run.
3. In the Run window, type "cmd" in the box.
4. Click OK.

Then type the commands in the command prompt window. To close the
window, type the command "exit".

If there's no Run command in the Start menu, press the Windows key and
"R" key at the same time to open the Run window.

Or, click Start > All Programs > Accessories > Command Prompt.

SUCCESS!! Steve....worked perfectly..I appreciate your time and patience
Steve..I learned some new things from you... I got all four packets back on
both computers.
Dean

That's good. What's the result of typing the two "net view" commands
on each computer?

Steve,
I get the same results on both computers...it doesn't appear to be my shared
folders. It was:
The syntax of this command is:

Net [ accounts computer config continue file group help
helping localgroup name pause print sent dsession
share start statistics stop time use user view ]

Dean

The form of the command is:

net view \\computer

Substitute the actual computer name.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 

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