Once again, Intel builds a CPU just for Apple

[Spinner]

If Apple users would learn to touch-type, they wouldn't need a light-up
keyboard. ;-)

never have seen a mac user hunt and peck, they are better educated than
most any computer user.[/QUOTE]

Then why do they get so excited over a silly lighted keyboard?

You DO realize that keyboards with lighted keys have been around for
years? They're mostly purchased by kids who want to make their
computers look kewl.

 

[Lefty Bigfoot]

fastest, thinnest, least weight slip laptop / no pc laptop has this

So you discount any of the really tiny portable computers. For
example, I saw an incredibly small HP computer almost 10 years
ago, it had a very small display, maybe 320x200 resolution, and
an incredibly small mouse that popped out of the side of it, and
a little miniature keyboard. It was smaller. You could put it
on your lap. It was 10 years earlier. Yes, it's not an
equivalent comparison. Given a decade of time in between, how
could it be?

longest battery life / no pc laptop has this

They haven't even shipped yet. We have no idea what the real
battery life is. Sitting idle watching a blinking cursor in a
terminal window to measure battery life might be interesting,
but useless. Spin up the drive, heat up the CPU, actually use
it for something, and maybe, just maybe it'll be great. Given
that most laptops from all the vendors have field-replaceable
batteries, this "longest battery life" is a bit of a joke. If
you really want a lot of battery away from a plug, you get more
than one battery. yes, it's less portable. Yes, it weighs
more. Each individual has a different set of needs.

each individual key lights up upon ambient light / no pc has this

I have a logitech keyboard, connected to a PC, and the keys
light up. I don't find it particularly important, since I've
been typing for over 30 years, but apparently it's /very/
important to some folks. No idea why.

full keyboard / no slim pc laptop has this

Not only do they have full keyboards, the ctrl key is in the
right place, and not supplanted by a butt stupid, non-standard
Fn key instead.

full iphone level control on trackpad / no pc has this

Since the PC doesn't have apps that would use it anyway, nobody
will ever notice.

pop away, magsafe power connector / no pc has this

Yeah, tell it to the people that have had their magsafe
connectors fail and apple won't fix them under warranty. I have
/never/ yanked a notebook off of a desk by a power cord, so I
never saw the utility of this one, but whatever...

full osx / no pc has this

Sure they do. just not legally. It's not a big deal though,
most of the owners of PCs don't give a damn about that.

full quality camera / no pc laptop has this

The camera isn't that great, btw. It's actually pretty bad,
unless you're comparing it to an even worse cell phone camera,
but it's better than having to carry one around.

full iLife / no pc has this

How useful is GarageBand going to be on that machine? Have you
looked at the I/O ports? How about iMovie? iDVD? Yeah, it's a
hugely important suite on the Air.

full integration with Time Capsule / no pc has this

Wait until Time Capsule decides your remote backup drive
containing all of your backup snapshots isn't a TM drive
anymore. Yes, it happens. Particularly on notebooks with
intermittently connected TimeMachine drives. 10.5.2 may address
this.

mini DVI which supports svideo/composite/vga / no pc has this

No, most of them have full size video connectors instead.

far better resale value in 5 years, / no pc has this

I keep telling myself that I'll be able to get a lot of money
for my dual 2GHz PPC Powermac G5 with 4GB of RAM and 1TB of disk
space inside, and yet nobody wants to buy it for anything like a
reasonable percentage of what I paid. This is true with all
used computers. "Resale value" is a marketing bullshit term.
No 5-year old computer is worth enough to worry about what it's
competitors might sell for.

full wireless migration from existing machines / no pc has this

You sure about that? I'm not convinced, since I've done it
before. ;-)

there are about 26 more, but you wouldn't understand.

In case you didn't notice, I'm an OS X fan, and I currently only
three different Apple mac products, including a macbook pro.
I'm also directly responsible for the purchasing of about a
dozen more. I've also been in the industry for almost 3
decades, and I know bullshit when I see it. When you exaggerate
and make shit up to make the sale, you just make all the users
of that platform look bad.

 

[Lefty Bigfoot]

If Apple users would learn to touch-type, they wouldn't need a
light-up keyboard. ;-)

never have seen a mac user hunt and peck, they are better educated than
most any computer user. i think you mean if mac users were "less
affluent" they wouldn't desire such high quality features.[/QUOTE]

Here we have the "social elite" Mac user stereotype. Bill Gates
is the richest guy on the planet, yet he uses something else.
So much for that theory.

People from all different backgrounds, educational levels and
wealth figures own both macs and PCs. Trying to pretend that
owning one makes you extra special, extra-smart or extra-wealthy
doesn't make your argument more compelling. Quite the opposite.

it's really amazing when you use it day to day.

I have a MBP with it, and I don't find it amazing at all. In
fact, I have it set to 0% so it doesn't just waste battery
clicking on/off when you move your hands over the sensors in
normal use in moderately low light conditions.

pc users have no understanding of modern computing features, so they
always are jealous it seems.

And pathetically bad Mac advocates can't stop trying to play
amateur psychologist in an attempt to find cause to cover up the
underlying insults when they stereotype PC users.

Both platforms have tradeoffs, as does Linux. There is no
perfect piece of computing hardware, and there is no perfect OS.
It's all about preference. Currently, I prefer OS X to the
alternatives, but I also see and recognize that others have
different needs and expectations. As such, I'm not compelled to
insult them, or impugn their motivations for using other
products.

 

[Lefty Bigfoot]

okay, then show us a more powerful Intel chip in a thinner laptop.

bet you can't!

thus my facts stand.

You likely don't understand this, but just because some
anonymous poster on Usenet doesn't post a refutation of your
claim does not make your point(s) valid, or proven. It merely
means that nobody bothered to refute them. If you want to prove
them, then do so.

 

[Gene Jones]

This wireless Renote Disk offers nothing that could have been done since
wireless first came out, apart from being spoonfed to n00bs. Nothing new.
Can you understand this past the marketing spin that has blinded you. What
do you think you can do with this that you cannot so woth networked drives??

only after massive kludges, Windows nor Linux support this, only OSX
does.

Buzzzt... you failed again.

Are you new to computers? I really think you are. What is so amazing? You
do know that all this Macbook is, is a thin computer? The trackpad gestures
is the only thing that impressed me above anything I have seen before, when
I saw those videos a few days ago.

No, I've just been around longer than you so I know when you are making
up lies...

By the way, I was using Macs with System 7, and the first computer I ever
used was my father's Apple IIe clone, in the early 80's.

So your family could only afford a cheap clone of an Apple.

Now we know the rest of the story...

You're an idiot that doesn't understand computing quality.

-

 

[Lefty Bigfoot]

yes, and now the iPhone has gone on to be one of the best selling Cell
Phones of all time, and the BEST selling SmartPhone of all time.

You're very, very confused about basic mathematics.

gosh, they don't even have a clue about what a quality product can do!

What, specifically, are you referring to. What "quality" does a
product that has been on the market for a relatively short time
demonstrate first of all, and assuming that it /did/, what can
it "do" that is a feature provided by all this amazing quality?

things like skyhook now in the iPhone completely change the game for all
cell carriers!

Do they? You can have a GPS-based system with accuracy down to
a few feet anywhere on the globe, or you can have Skyhook, with
lower accuracy almost everywhere, and only even a close accuracy
level in very densely populated areas with lots of cell towers.

What it has effectively done is lower the bar back down for
positional information to lower levels than before Selective
Availability became a non-issue for GPS users.

You are not expected to comprehend this.

 

[Gene Jones]

Then why do they get so excited over a silly lighted keyboard?

You DO realize that keyboards with lighted keys have been around for
years? They're mostly purchased by kids who want to make their
computers look kewl.

actually they have not. Apple has a patent on the technology, so no
other computer vendor can light each "key". much less use light sensors
to do so. that's owned by apple for many years to come.

you are talking about lighting underneath the keyboard, like a punked
car in a redneck side of town, that's not even close to what apple is
doing. apple is lighting the "keys"... wow!

http://stealthisidea.com/wp-content/keycap-backlighting/backlit-keyboard.
jpg

please learn about modern computing technology, false kludges is not
what I'm talking about.

-

 

[Gene Jones]

Hey dickweed. You do not argue your points very well at all. You just talk
utter rubbish. Bye little fanboy macfag.

so you don't like FACTS... and/or afraid of the FUTURE.

nuff said, you need to learn about computing if you want to debate with
the likes of me.

PLONK!

 

[Gene Jones]

by the way, it shows you are posting via:

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138

oh, MY GOD... how much of an idiot can you to be posting with such
horrible, totally obsolete software.

no WONDER you don't understand what is going on in the real world.

-

 

[Lefty Bigfoot]

actually they have not. Apple has a patent on the technology, so no
other computer vendor can light each "key".

I wonder how Logitech gets away with doing it on their
keyboards? Do they pay Apple a fee for it? Were you even aware
that it was available elsewhere?

you are talking about lighting underneath the keyboard, like a punked
car in a redneck side of town, that's not even close to what apple is
doing. apple is lighting the "keys"... wow!

Perhaps he is, but I'm not. Go check out a logitech G15
keyboard. I bought one without even realizing it had the keys
lit like that, because I wanted all the macro programming extra
keys for another system (not a Mac btw). The lights were an
unexpected "Feature" when it arrived. I couldn't care less.
They seem pointless.

 

[Lefty Bigfoot]

only after massive kludges, Windows nor Linux support this, only OSX
does.

Buzzzt... you failed again.

Wrong. You could boot off a remote system with no internal
hard drive even, much less a CD-ROM or floppy /ages/ ago.
Graphical X terminals could do in the early 90s, perhaps
earlier. bootp, PXE, etc. all predate it. They didn't have a
bunch of hype and HD H.264 video demos to explain them to the
likes of you, but it's not exactly new. You've been able to
share a CD-ROM or DVD over the network to remote systems for a
long time as well. You can put a DVD-image on a PXE server and
boot a so-called "thin-client" off of it, and you could do so in
1999.

No, I've just been around longer than you so I know when you are making
up lies...

Apparently, you are completely clueless, but you've been
clueless for a long time.

 

[JEDIDIAH]

only after massive kludges, Windows nor Linux support this, only OSX
does.

What kludges? You put a device with a CIFS share on the network and any
Windows or Linux machine can happily and easily connect to it. This is
nothing new. This is 1994 era stuff.

[deletia]

 

[Gene Jones]

What kludges? You put a device with a CIFS share on the network and any
Windows or Linux machine can happily and easily connect to it. This is
nothing new. This is 1994 era stuff.

why have to use a CIFS share?

a massive kludge

Apple was the fist to it correctly, admit it.

-

 

[Maverick]

actually they have not. Apple has a patent on the technology, so no
other computer vendor can light each "key". much less use light sensors
to do so. that's owned by apple for many years to come.

Really??
Funny that Hughes Aircraft has had this kind of technology way back in
the 60s.

 

[John Slade]

but you'd be stuck with a iny keyboard and keys that don't light up in
dark airplane / conference conditions. no thanks. Apple built the
smallest laptop, with the most features, runs OSX, not wimpy windows...

Sure it runs Windows, it comes with Boot Camp.

John

 

[John Slade]

Hey dickweed. You do not argue your points very well at all. You just
talk utter rubbish. Bye little fanboy macfag.

This "Gene Jones" guy posts under multiple names and posts the same
idiotic bullshit. He's doing it for attention. Nobody could be that damned
dumb.

John

 

[John Slade]

oh my god you are dumb!

i'm talking about the "individual keys" not the silly keyboard. anybody
can do that, but only Apple holds the patent to light up the "key".
Learn about technology would you?

no other vendor is allowed to do this:

http://media.arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/macbookpro.media/keyboard.j
pg

You lying jackass. Apple says it's backlit.
http://www.apple.com/macbookair/design.html HP has this feature also.
Microsoft Desktop PC keyboards have this features, I'm sure other companies
make these. You are chock full of bullshit. Do yourself a favor and take a
strong laxative.

John

 

[John Slade]

If Apple users would learn to touch-type, they wouldn't need a
light-up keyboard. ;-)

never have seen a mac user hunt and peck, they are better educated than
most any computer user.[/QUOTE]

Bullshit. Complete bullshit.

John

 

[John Slade]

actually they have not. Apple has a patent on the technology, so no
other computer vendor can light each "key". much less use light sensors
to do so. that's owned by apple for many years to come.

you are talking about lighting underneath the keyboard, like a punked
car in a redneck side of town, that's not even close to what apple is
doing. apple is lighting the "keys"... wow!

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/peripher...oard-wireless-rechargeable-backlit-184418.php

You are so full of it. Microsoft has a motion sensor on it's desktop
keyboard to sense the approach of a user.

John

 

[Jim Lee Jr.]

You are so full of it. Microsoft has a motion sensor on it's desktop
keyboard to sense the approach of a user.

John

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