-> NOT FOR RETAIL OR OEM DISTRIBUTION <- ???

[- \(James\)]

Like, a very big THANK YOU!! I am ordering the book now and look forward to
devouring it cover to cover.


- James

 

[- \(James\)]

Hummm.... at least the ones that are extremely helpful.

- James


in message Print them out...that'll keep ya bizzy )))))


| Hi Andrew,
|
| That's what I thought, so I have fully downloaded all twenty three
thousand
| postings here to review later for helpful information, I'll chip away at
| them over the coming months ahead.
|
| Thanks for your reply!
|
| James
|
|
| | > Well since they won't help - this NG is full bottle on FP2003 and is
your
| best
| > source of info concerning using the software. Who needs yahoo?
| >
| >
| > | > > Yahoo states they don't support 2003, meaning they will not answer any
| > > questions or help with any problems if you're using 2003. Kinda
| silly...one
| > > would think a company of that magnitude would be more open brained.
| > >
| > > "Rob Giordano (Crash Gordon®)" <[email protected]>
| wrote
| > > in message | > > FP2002 & 2003 both use the same extensions, so unless Yoohoo is using
| really
| > > old extensions dunno. When I was with them last april they had the
most
| > > current extension on my server.
| > >
| > > OEM...Original Equipment Manufacturerrrr. You've got a copy that is
| > > generally installed with new computers...like when you buy one already
| > > assembled with OS installed. Should work unless its a rotten bootleg.
| > >
| > > Try to install it.
| > >
| > > I still think Yoohoo is pullin' your chain though.
| > >
| > >
| > > | > > |
| > > | Hello,
| > > |
| > > | After extensive research reading groups and web based info, I still
| have
| > > not
| > > | been able to find a concise answer to the following concern.
| > > |
| > > | I bought FrontPage 2002 (for a $100.00) from what appeared to be a
| > > | respectable website for an outdated copy of Front Page. I bought the
| older
| > > | version of FrontPage because Yahoo.com web hosting services does not
| fully
| > > | support versions newer than that I have FrontPage 2003 and it will
not
| > > work
| > > | properly with Yahoo.com web hosting services.
| > > |
| > > | However, all I got was a disk in an unsealed sleeve (no CD Case)
with
| an
| > > | official looking product key taped to the sleeve.
| > > |
| > > |
| > > |
| > > | The gold disc reads:
| > > |
| > > |
| > > | FULFILLMENT DISTRIBUTION (C) 2001
| > > |
| > > | UNLICENSED SOFTWARE
| > > | ILLEGAL WITHOUT SEPARATE LICENSE FROM MICROSOFT
| > > |
| > > | VERSION 2002
| > > | 0301 PART NO. X06-22271
| > > |
| > > | The part number is not found anywhere on the web when I last
checked.
| > > |
| > > | I have NOT installed it yet and I'm not sure I should at all. And
what
| is
| > > | OEM?
| > > |
| > > | Any solid help (even Microsoft links) would be wonderful.
| > > |
| > > | Thanks in advance!
| > > |
| > > | James
| > > |
| > > |
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Murray]

It's really very engaging. Dave has a wonderful conversational style....

(and the tech editing was superior, too! 8) )

 

[- \(James\)]

The one thing no one has mentioned, is that the copy you bought is a
pirated copy, as is ovious from the title of the message " Not for
Retail or OEM Distribution".

The following is from
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...all/proddocs/en-us/lic_many_types_piracy.mspx

Are there different types of software piracy? Is one type of piracy less
damaging than any other?

There are five basic forms of software piracy, and all are damaging both
to the software publisher and to you, the end user. The following are
the five basic types of piracy:

...

License Misuse: Software distributed under special discount licenses,
either to high-volume customers, computer manufacturers, or academic
institutions, that is then redistributed to others who do not hold or
qualify for these licenses.

...

Microsoft World Wide Fulfillment (WWF) product misuse. This form of
license misuse occurs when an WWF product is diverted into normal
commercial channels of distribution. The WWF product may be distributed
only to end users who have a Select or Open license and who order the
product in accordance with their license terms. The WWF product has a
sticker on the jewel case identifying the product as "Microsoft World
Wide Fulfillment."

Hi Paul,

Thank you for your informative response. I just got off of the phone with
Microsoft's 1-800-RU-LEGIT hotline and after a five minute call I learned
the following.

The copy I have is legit. It is issued with new computers only and the
copies are SOMETIMES tailored somewhat to the needs/layout of the computer
it is issued for, thus it's not geared for general retail sales. No laws
have been broken as the copy I have is (not) stolen and is (not) a forge, as
Microsoft states that anyone is entitled to sell their original copy of a
given program as long as they uninstall it on their computer. However,
Microsoft records show that my copy and product key number have never been
registered and my copy checks out to have a valid product key.

Optionally, I have been advised to return the copy of FP 2002 to the
retailer and ask for a retail version of the software or ask for my money
back if they refuse. I will now call the retailer and ask for a retail
version.

Thanks again for all of your help.

- James

 

[Craig Schiller]

in-line...

You've made a bad call. I'm a webmaster
who owns and operates:
www.VirginiasBestKeptSecret.com
www.RoneyPhotography.com
www.RoneyEnterprises.com
www.MyPetPhotographer.com
www.MyActionPhotographer.com
www.SmithMountainLakeVisitorCenter.com
www.SmithMountainLakeRealEstateMall.com
www.BedfordVisitorCenter.com
www.FranklinCountyVisitorCenter.com
(and many more)

... thus I do not work for Yahoo, nor do I have the time to work for them,
rather I pay them to host my websites.

Well, the very best of luck to you using those putzes for your ISP.

Each week, I write ads for my clients as well as for myself, possibly my
wording sounded like an ad?

No, your wording sounded like miscomprehension.

Cheers,
Craig

 

[Craig Schiller]

In that case, all is definitely forgiven.

c.

Besides, I spent the last 46 hours on the road non stop from western Texas,
only to come back with a bad head cold, so I'm entitled to a little miss
understanding.

-James

 

[- \(James\)]

It's really very engaging. Dave has a wonderful conversational style....

(and the tech editing was superior, too! 8) )

- James

 

[- \(James\)]

in-line...

Well, the very best of luck to you using those putzes for your ISP.

Hi Craig,


I have to admit, there are some very serious problems with Yahoo sub-domain
when it comes to statistical DATA. It does not work at all!

No, your wording sounded like miscomprehension.

No doubt, as I'm dealing with a bad head cold on top of a fourteen hundred
mile drive back to home base, in less then two days!

Cheers,
Craig

Thanks nevertheless for your feedback.

-James

 

[- \(James\)]

- James

In that case, all is definitely forgiven.

c.

 

[Paul S. Wolf]

Hi Paul,

Thank you for your informative response. I just got off of the phone with
Microsoft's 1-800-RU-LEGIT hotline and after a five minute call I learned
the following.

The copy I have is legit. It is issued with new computers only and the
copies are SOMETIMES tailored somewhat to the needs/layout of the computer
it is issued for, thus it's not geared for general retail sales. No laws
have been broken as the copy I have is (not) stolen and is (not) a forge, as
Microsoft states that anyone is entitled to sell their original copy of a
given program as long as they uninstall it on their computer. However,
Microsoft records show that my copy and product key number have never been
registered and my copy checks out to have a valid product key.

Optionally, I have been advised to return the copy of FP 2002 to the
retailer and ask for a retail version of the software or ask for my money
back if they refuse. I will now call the retailer and ask for a retail
version.

Thanks again for all of your help.

- James

That's good to know. While you're at it, get the 2003 version, as
others have suggested. It is much improved and will work fine on any
site that has the 2002 extensions.

 

[- \(James\)]

That's good to know. While you're at it, get the 2003 version, as
others have suggested. It is much improved and will work fine on any
site that has the 2002 extensions.

Hi again Paul,

A few of my post indicate my dilemma as I have purchased FP 2003, but had to
purchase FP 2002 as Yahoo does not support FP 2003 right now, only parts of
it.

Oh well, such is life.

- James

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

James,

FP2003 supports everything that FP2000/FP2002 does, so there is no reason not to use FP2003. There
are no FP2003 extensions.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

 

[- \(James\)]

Hi Thomas,

I'm currently running OS SE 98, thus FP 2003 it is not compatible. I have
also have FP 2003 as well and a 3.2 G-Hz computer with XP but it's down for
now.

Thanks nevertheless for your thoughtful input.

- James

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Ok. You need to get the XP machine back up and running.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

 

[- \(James\)]

Tell me about it.

-James

Ok. You need to get the XP machine back up and running.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

It should take you more than 3 or 4 hours, to reformat, install Windows XP and then your apps, but
that all depends on the size of your HD, system speed, and the number of apps to be re-installed and
configured. I just did my two machines last week.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

 

[- \(James\)]

The problem I have run into is (1) where to place the little jumper found on
the HD. I'm pretty sure I've got it right, but on boot up I get some strange
message that I do not understand. I will try again tomorrow and see what
gives.

Thanks for your encouragement nonetheless!

- James

PS: 250 Meg Western Digital HD

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

If you just have a single Western Digital HD in the system / Cable, then you don't need the jumper.
Make sure that you are using the 80 wire cable and not the 40 wire cable.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

 

[- \(James\)]

Hi Thomas,

Okay. So I will remove the jumper. Note that the same Western Digital HD had
a jumper on it in the most right position, vertically placed, however, the
HD was partitioned for (C) and (D). As for the hardwire, I'm pretty sure
it's 80 pin. I will make sure when I get back into the office. It's an HP
3.0 bought new, about 8 months ago. I don't think the newer 250 gig HD's use
40 pin connectors.

-James

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

None of the new WD HD will work correctly with a 40 pin cable, but I just want to make sure you were
using the right cable.

Starting from the pin next to the power connector, working left:

The first jumper set is Cable Select, I have never found this to work any computer I have had.

The second jumper is Slave, on applicable when you use the drive as a second HD on the cable with
another HD.

The third (middle) jumper set is for master, but only when you have a slave drive installed.

No jumper is need if no slave, also make sure the drive is being connected to end of the cable, not
the middle connector.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================