Norton & McAfee Antivirus

[Philip K.]

I can not understand all the angry posts to the effect that Norton and McAfee antivirus programs are "crap-ware". Neither can I understand why anyone would trust antivirus Freeware which must be written by a part time enthusiast who can not possibly keep up with the daily flood of viruses.
Is some rich guy giving his time and money to a staff of AV experts just for me?
Does anyone monitor these Freeware sites on a daily basis to see how effective they are?

 

[David H. Lipman]

I can not understand all the angry posts to the effect that Norton and McAfee antivirus
programs are "crap-ware". Neither can I understand why anyone would trust antivirus
Freeware which must be written by a part time enthusiast who can not possibly keep up with
the daily flood of viruses.
Is some rich guy giving his time and money to a staff of AV experts just for me?
Does anyone monitor these Freeware sites on a daily basis to see how effective they are?


You will get the *best* answers in an anti virus news Group, not in WinXP General !

microsoft.public.security.virus
alt.comp.virus
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[R. McCarty]

The "Anger" you refer to comes not from the effectiveness of the products
but the System loading issues and a long list of issues with installation &
updating. Norton & McAfee hold the largest part of the AV market for
home PC users. With ever escalating costs and the aggravation factor -
many, myself included have tested and moved to other products that fit
our needs better. To my knowledge most all "Free" or "Shareware" AV
products comes from recognized Security Companies such as Grisoft or
Avast or others. Norton & McAfee are fine for those users who want a
name brand product and do not care about performance or maintenance
issues associated with it. (Set it and Forget it -which encompasses most
average PC users)

I can not understand all the angry posts to the effect that Norton and
McAfee antivirus programs are "crap-ware". Neither can I understand why
anyone would trust antivirus Freeware which must be written by a part time
enthusiast who can not possibly keep up with the daily flood of viruses.
Is some rich guy giving his time and money to a staff of AV experts just
for me?
Does anyone monitor these Freeware sites on a daily basis to see how
effective they are?

 

[Daj]

I am looking for just the firewall and virus programs you are talking about. What are you using for
firewall, virus control? I see that Lavasoft has a new firewall out, do you know how good it really
is. It's only $29.95 per yr. Sure would appreciate your comment on this.
Thanks, Don

 

[Guest]

Phil, I've had Norton for seven years and McAfee for two. Since Jan 04,
I stopped Norton due to constant price increases, and installed the free
home version of AVG by Grisoft. I've never had one single instance of
infection by a virus. I also run AdAware and SpyBot. All these must be
checked frequently for updates to keep your system secure. C'est la vie!

 

[Philip K.]

Yes, I have had my share of Norton upgrades "crapping" up the registry.
On the other hand, back in the summer of 98 Windows 98 wiped out my entire
computer. Luckily, the data was saved but the computer was down for a week.
Office XP gave a lot trouble until a few SP's came out but never wiped
anything out.
The big question is which AV program is the most reliable not which is
most convenient. The choices may be like getting an unpleasant flu shot
versus tasty herbal teas.

 

[Daj]

You didn't mention a fire wall, what are you using for a firewall? I am changing for the same reason
you did the increase in price. I have two computers and paying for two firewalls and two av's from
Norton is a bit more than I want to or afford to spend so any help you can give is greatfully
appreciated
Don

 

[kurttrail]

I can not understand all the angry posts to the effect that Norton
and McAfee antivirus programs are "crap-ware". Neither can I
understand why anyone would trust antivirus Freeware which must be
written by a part time enthusiast who can not possibly keep up with
the daily flood of viruses.
Is some rich guy giving his time and money to a staff of AV
experts just for me?
Does anyone monitor these Freeware sites on a daily basis to see
how effective they are?

Who is angry? Symantec Sucks. And I'm not angry about it.

NAV is for all intents and purposes a virus unto itself. As a matter of
fact the majority of virus are easier to remove from your computer than
NAV2004 and later are.

McAffee lost me years ago with really system resource sucking AV. It
now seems Symantec is now the leader in sucking.

As for the "free" AV progs most commonly referred to here in this group,
avast & AVG, they are written by real for-profit companies, that provide
free AV for private non-commercial use. They make their nut on selling
to businesses, and to people that buy their commercial versions.

If you want to buy bloated over-expensive AV programs, that's your
choice. Just don't come here looking for help with them. You need to
go to the source of your problems for help.

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[R. McCarty]

I use eTrust 7 for AV ($19 per year renewal), on the wife's notebook I
have AVG free. Both use Zone Alarm Free for firewall. I also use the
MS AntiSpyware (Defender) and weekly checks with AdAware and
Spybot. About once a month I run Trend-Micro's Online scan to cross
check my resident AV. Also, since RootKits are becoming more of a
threat, I run RootKitRevealer and Blacklight from F-Prot. Finally, I use
AdSubtract to take care of Adverts on websites.

 

[Winux P]

Who is angry? Symantec Sucks. And I'm not angry about it.

NAV is for all intents and purposes a virus unto itself. As a matter of
fact the majority of virus are easier to remove from your computer than
NAV2004 and later are.

McAffee lost me years ago with really system resource sucking AV. It now
seems Symantec is now the leader in sucking.

As for the "free" AV progs most commonly referred to here in this group,
avast & AVG, they are written by real for-profit companies, that provide
free AV for private non-commercial use. They make their nut on selling to
businesses, and to people that buy their commercial versions.

If you want to buy bloated over-expensive AV programs, that's your choice.
Just don't come here looking for help with them. You need to go to the
source of your problems for help.

That would be his psycharitrist.

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- Winux P

 

[Philip K.]

You are sick in the head. Nobody asked you for anything. Your paranoid
garbage applies more to you than your targets.

 

[Philip K.]

You are sick in the head. Nobody asked you for anything. Your paranoid
garbage applies more to you than your targets.

 

[ANONYMOUS]

For firewall you would be better off using a hardware based and
supplemented with Windows SP2 Firewall.

For antivirus I still use Nortons/symantec and have no plans to make
drastic chnages in my configurations!

 

[Plato]

I can not understand all the angry posts to the effect that Norton
and McAfee antivirus programs are "crap-ware". Neither can I

Both the above use the most system resources and add the most registry
entries compared to the rest of bunch.

 

[Plato]

For firewall you would be better off using a hardware based and
supplemented with Windows SP2 Firewall.

I use an older version of ZoneAlarm and a NAT router. No bad hits.

 

[kurttrail]

You are sick in the head. Nobody asked you for anything. Your
paranoid garbage applies more to you than your targets.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

OMG! This is a group about Windows XP. And it is this thread of yours
that is paranoid totally off-topic garbage here.

But at least now we know who is getting angry over this Symantec/MacAfee
nonsense. You are.



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[Philip K.]

Take your psychology pills before you do any more posting. The guards will
take your computer away.

 

[Philip K.]

Thanks for all the information. Yes, I have had my problems with the registry being "crapped" up by Norton so that I could not even load their own new version. On the other hand, the US government, major banks, and corporations use it so it must be doing the job of blocking viruses better than any other "crap-ware". If no one is monitoring Freeware on a daily basis, am I not taking a big chance with it.
Just as an aside -- doesn't this news group have a moderator. A few angry lunatics are allowed to jump in wherever they want to. On all the other news groups that I have visited they are quickly blocked by a moderator.

I can not understand all the angry posts to the effect that Norton and McAfee antivirus programs are "crap-ware". Neither can I understand why anyone would trust antivirus Freeware which must be written by a part time enthusiast who can not possibly keep up with the daily flood of viruses.
Is some rich guy giving his time and money to a staff of AV experts just for me?
Does anyone monitor these Freeware sites on a daily basis to see how effective they are?

 

[David H. Lipman]

Thanks for all the information. Yes, I have had my problems with the registry being
"crapped" up by Norton so that I could not even load their own new version. On the other
hand, the US government, major banks, and corporations use it so it must be doing the job of
blocking viruses better than any other "crap-ware". If no one is monitoring Freeware on a
daily basis, am I not taking a big chance with it.
Just as an aside -- doesn't this news group have a moderator. A few angry lunatics are
allowed to jump in wherever they want to. On all the other news groups that I have visited
they are quickly blocked by a moderator.



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[Guest]

People come to this page for help from others and for someone to jump in only
to call others names and try to put them down and have no intention to help
the one asking for help is uncalled for.I myself learn a lot from newsgroups
and forums from RESPECTFUL people who know the answers and dont mind sharing
them with us. What would make one want to jump in and call others names like
the posters above just did is beyond me unless they just need attention or
something but I am sure others will agree that the only one who need the
phycharitrist are the ones who get on these helpful sites and have nothing
better to do than to name call and try to make the others look stupid. If you
people want to do CHILDISH things like the name calling and belittle others
why not go outside and play with the neighborhood bullys and stay off helpful
liks like these. You really only make YOURSELF look like the inmature person
who You really are.If You are not grown up enough for big people computer
things than stick to the inmature pages that You will probably go to when You
leave this site.