Next version of windows will need around 100 GB disk space for itself!

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Tiberius

NO I dont want linux.... if you want to talk about linux go to a linux
newsgroup... not here... troll!
 
S

Stan

You don't talk like you've been around since the 8088 days? You either
haven't been around that long or you have learned very little since then.

Since you have proven that you didn't actually read the post and made
an ass out of yourself, let me quote something from that post that
just didn't seem to sink in. I'll space it out so even you might, by
accident, grasp it:

T H I S W A S F R O M A N A R T I C L E I N A
C O M P U T I N G M A G A Z I N E.

It's amazing that you quoted my entire message and still couldn't find
two brain cells to bang together in order to comprehend that it wasn't
me that came up with this but it was the:

M A G A Z I N E A R T I C L E

that said so (as so evidently said in my message for those that have
literary comprehension skills to read).

Let's try that slower so the resident inbred imbecile might have a
chance to grasp it:

M A G A Z I N E A R T I C L E

Still confused there Bubba? One more time even S L O W E R...

I T W A S F R O M A
M A G A Z I N E
A R T I C L E

Now, if you have no clue what a
M A G A Z I N E A R T I C L E
is, then I can't offer you any absolution. You will just have to go
off and squalor in your own confused, illiterate pre mortal slush.

Next time, read the message before you make such an ass out of
yourself and by all means, if you are going to fabricate what was
actually said, at least don't be so stupid as to quote the message in
your reply that you are trying to fabricate what was actually
contained within...

What an ignorant ass hole... Kid!
 
S

Stan

New applications (not necessary OS) with more features and functions will
require more power from hardware while advanced hardware will also provide
more rooms for application developers.

I think that is what the Magazine Article was driving at in a way. It
was very interesting reading. Opened my eyes to something that I had
not really paid a mind to but was aware of in a way.
Both software (including but not limited to OS) and hardware drive each
other to further advancement, provided users appreciate the new
developments.

And that usually leads to healthy innovations unless some feel the
need to keep pace and put products on the shelf before they are
properly tested.

BTW, its nice to see someone that actually read my post and
comprehended the part where I said:
Best regards,
 
S

Stan

Vista was made so slow sloppy and such a resource hog because they know they
will have multicore machines to boat down to a crawl! lol

The article said as much except it didn't point fingers at any
specific product. The article did say that with the advent of more
powerful, faster systems, a lot of software houses are being less
"streamlined with the Architecture of their code" (Sloppy Programming)
unlike they had to be in the 8088 days and that if coders were as
vigilant about the streamlining with the Architecture of their code
today as they had to be in the 8088 days, we would be seeing the power
of today's systems really come alive and not being bogged down.

This thing was in a magazine I was reading at the dentist office and I
wish I had written down the magazine name, year and month of the
article so I could see if it was available on line for others to read.
Needless to say, it was interesting.

Regards,
 
S

Stan

A few facts that you are forgetting about.

No matter how it gets censored Boy, its still from a

M A G A Z I N E A R T I C L E

And you still can't comprehend that simple little fact.

and you are still inbred

go censor that and we will just post it again.... Boy
 
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Feliks Dzerzhinsky

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But with MS it will be "safe sex".

Alias

I usually don't pay much attention to your posts, but this one has
seriously funny implications.

I got a vision of a window popping up which said, "Caution. Continued
activity of this type without the application of protective measures ,
may result in infection, unwanted pregnancy and/or social ostracism".

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Iron Feliks
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R

Ronnie Vernon MVP

Stan

If you have trouble comprehending my response, just use the scroll wheel to
take a look at what you posted. It's that little curved part on the top of
the mouse with the ridges.

So, let me get this straight, you posted information you read in an unknown
article of an unknown magazine that was published on an unknown date, right?
And your not really sure "if the article holds water or not but it "sort of"
made sense to me." (direct quote in case you don't know how to retrieve your
original message) Then you added some story you made up comparing a car to
to computers? Then the coup de grâce, a statement from a late night
comedian?

I don't think I'm the one having problems with brain cells?

If you have something to contribute to the subject of the thread, please do,
but try to make it based on something that you actually know.
 
R

Rock

Tiberius said:
You lie!!!! where the heck do you come up with such trash?

its not 5 gb bigger... its 13 GB bigger at least!

XP needs 2gb or as MS says 1.5 GB for itself. If you take into account the
vanila pre sp2 version it takes less...
as you can see here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/evaluation/sysreqs.mspx

Vista needs 10 but then it has the shadow copy that makes the space grow
very much too!

Even the specs on the MS site itself says 15 gb minimum!
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/systemrequirements.mspx


Yeah you didnt read the post of a person in here wondering why his vista
installation is eating 100 gb because of shadow copy space did you?

The 15GB is the space needed for the installation, not how much is used
after the OS is installed.

The poster whose OS installation is taking 100GB of space had something
changed on it. That's not normal. This one system including Vista Ultimate
and all installed apps such as Corel Word Perfect X3, Office 2007, and a
variety of other large utility and user apps is 15GB. Data is on separate
partitions.

This computer is set up in a multi-boot with XP SP2 and IE6. Apps are
installed separately for each OS. The XP installation with apps occupies a
bit over 12 GB. This XP installation has been around longer, so there are
more apps, but the difference in size is not huge.

A separate installation of XP SP2 w/ IE7 on the same system, used for
testing some apps, has a size of 4.6 GB. There are some apps installed, but
not too much right now and it's current with updates, AV and firewall.

I don't see the next version MS OS taking 100 GB for itself.

<snip>
 
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xfile

And that usually leads to healthy innovations unless some feel the
need to keep pace and put products on the shelf before they are
properly tested.

As far as I know, Intel was "forced" to come up multi-core chips; part of
reason is from AMD and another major reason is to handle increasing
multitasking while clock has almost reached to its limit.

But now we have multi-core chips, we can expect to see even more innovative
applications coming out.

Yes, that's part of healthy ecosystem.
 
T

Tiberius

Thats why I originaly said it needs 10 not 15..
and that is how much I have seen

but in the graph I should have followed strictly the numbers MS gives for
each OS...

and that would make the slope even worse ...
 
R

Rock

Tiberius said:
Thats why I originaly said it needs 10 not 15..
and that is how much I have seen

but in the graph I should have followed strictly the numbers MS gives for
each OS...

and that would make the slope even worse ...

Sure you have to choose some comparison point. My numbers are very
subjective, obviously, because there is not a one to one correspondence on
installed apps, however, there is usefulness in seeing what goes in an
example of a real world installation as opposed to marketing numbers.

I don't believe the next MS OS will take 100 GB for itself.
 
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Frank

Tiberius wrote:

,,,,,,,,,,,,ridiculous diatribe deleted;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;


Let me ask you a question capin' crunch:

If you were able to take Vista Ultimate (which you don't have, as we all
know), and delete all of it's backward compatibility code, delete all of
it's language code's other than the few you need, delete all of the
features you can't use or don't want...how big in terms of kb's, mb's,
gig's would it be?
Because obviously, in order for Vista to cover all of those bases, for
all of those diverse users, in all those languages with all those
features, it needs to be exactly as big as it is. You may only need or
use just 1% of Vista's available code but you are only one person. If MS
decided to eliminate the 1% only you use, in order to reduce it's size,
I'm sure you'd throw a fit. Do you understand where I'm coming from?
Cause if your don't then there is no hope for you at all. And your point
is really moot cause we've moved on from 512mb HDD.
Got it?
Frank
 
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xfile

I don't believe the next MS OS will take 100 GB for itself.

No offense or any indication to if the OS is sloppiness or not, but who
knows for sure? :)

Maybe they'll add artificial intelligence or something unthinkable
innovations to it and make the size much larger :)

In my opinion, size by itself doesn't really mean anything; maybe there are
very good reasons behind it, or not.

Only those with advanced programming knowledge with access to the source
codes would know the true quality of the software.

Kind of interesting to see so many feel so "tense" about the size.
 
R

Rock

xfile said:
No offense or any indication to if the OS is sloppiness or not, but who
knows for sure? :)

Maybe they'll add artificial intelligence or something unthinkable
innovations to it and make the size much larger :)

In my opinion, size by itself doesn't really mean anything; maybe there
are very good reasons behind it, or not.

Only those with advanced programming knowledge with access to the source
codes would know the true quality of the software.

Kind of interesting to see so many feel so "tense" about the size.

I'm not sure about whom you refer in the "tense" aspect. One ought to be
careful about assigning feelings to the written word, especially in a
technical discussion. It's like attributing human reactions and feelings to
the behavior of an animal (and computer folks are defininately animals). It
might seem applicable on the face of it, but no basis in reality.

Certainly no one can know for sure. The OP suggested it would be one way,
others opined differently.

Is there that much significance in the presence of the same sentence in two
successive posts?

I don't care what it ends up to be nor does it matter to me who might be
closer in the prediction. Hell we could even start a pool on it.

We all know about opinions, eh? lol

Kind of interesting to see the need to inject a perception of emotion.

Of course someone will probably draw a further conclusion that this reply
just proves the original point...oh well. People are going to believe what
they want to believe.
 
X

xfile

I'm not sure about whom you refer in the "tense" aspect.

Well, you think too much.

Not referring to you or I will say you, instead of "so many".
 
G

Guest

Wow!
If I use arbitrary axis I could have a graph say whatever I wanted to too.
You can't use a non-linear Y-axis and then do a linear extrapolation of your
data.
Your y-axis is sort of logarithmic, but compressed to look linear.
Install sizes have not been growing by powers of 10.
By my estimate the next version of Windows might be about 30GB.
Doesn't really matter, though.
The important thing is to represent your data and graphs accurately.
 
G

Gary

And by then we will be using 8 way processors, 16 gig of memory and terabyte
disk drives so who cares.

Well except for the UrbuttTo users will still be saying the same old crap.
 

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