New Warning over IE flaws

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Scrubbs

I never use IE unless it's absolutely necessary. But I regularly do
/all/ the security updates.

But I had to use it the other day to sign up to an ISP. And guess what,
despite using a firewall I was infected! Can U believe it?!! The first
time I used IE in over a month I was infected within five minutes. Some
achievement, that, even for M$. Read about it here:

http://www.zdnet.co.uk/

/Scrubbs
 
B

Bob Adkins


Funny, the above is all I can remember about your post.

If you want your posts to have credibility, you should consider losing such
slurs as "M$", "Microsloth", "Windoze", etc.

Bob

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J

John Corliss

Bob said:
Funny, the above is all I can remember about your post.
If you want your posts to have credibility, you should consider losing such
slurs as "M$", "Microsloth", "Windoze", etc.

Bob,
You forgot "Microcrap", "Macrobug", "Monopolsoft", "Microdick",
"Microshit", "Winblows", "Wincock", etc.

Anybody care to add to the list?
 
M

MLC

giovedì 10/giu/2004 _John Corliss_ ha scritto:
Bob,
You forgot "Microcrap", "Macrobug", "Monopolsoft", "Microdick",
"Microshit", "Winblows", "Wincock", etc.

Anybody care to add to the list?

Winzozz in Italian.
(zozzo or sozzo means dirty, very dirty)
 
B

Bob Adkins

Bob,
You forgot "Microcrap", "Macrobug", "Monopolsoft", "Microdick",
"Microshit", "Winblows", "Wincock", etc.

You're missing the point John.

The point is, if someone is so angry at MS that they call them juvenile
names, they have obviously lost their objectivity. Therefore, everything
they complain about is tainted and most likely biased. Why should people
even bother trying to help them? Even if they solve the problem 100%, they
will still be unhappy with the evil MS product.

Bob

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J

John Corliss

Bob said:
You're missing the point John.
The point is, if someone is so angry at MS that they call them juvenile
names, they have obviously lost their objectivity.

I disagree. Most people who use Windows are angry enough to call them
names, and not necessarily juvenile ones either.
Therefore, everything
they complain about is tainted and most likely biased. Why should people
even bother trying to help them? Even if they solve the problem 100%, they
will still be unhappy with the evil MS product.

I think you're making a big to-do about really petty stuff. Scrubb's
post was about a valid concern. I for one appreciate the warning.
However, my browser is tighter than a flea's ass. There shall be no
problems like described here:

http://news.com.com/Pop-up+toolbar+spreads+via+IE+flaws/2100-1002_3-5229707.html

(link may wrap)

By the way, currently the MS update site says my system needs the
following:

"Critical Updates and Service Packs (17)
Windows Millennium Edition (46)
Driver Updates (0)"

HA HA HA!!!! Ain't gonna happen. I use Mozilla.
 
S

scroob

But I had to use it the other day to sign up to an ISP. And guess what,
despite using a firewall I was infected! Can U believe it?!! The first
time I used IE in over a month I was infected within five minutes. Some
achievement, that, even for M$. Read about it here:

You should learn more about security. A firewall cannot protect you because
the firewall allows IE by neccessity, and IE is the agent of infection.

Learn more about IE as well. Obviously, you are using it with "install on
demand" enabled. That's like leaving your front door open with a sign that
says "here I am, come on in and do what you wish."
 
S

Steven Burn

scroob said:
Learn more about IE as well. Obviously, you are using it with "install on
demand" enabled. That's like leaving your front door open with a sign that
says "here I am, come on in and do what you wish."

Agreed....... "Install on demand" should _never_ be enabled.

--

Regards

Steven Burn
Ur I.T. Mate Group
www.it-mate.co.uk

Keeping it FREE!
 
P

PuppyKatt

MicroShaft

: Bob Adkins wrote:
: > Scrubbs@reply_group.fr wrote:
: >
: >> M$.
: >
: > Funny, the above is all I can remember about your post.
: > If you want your posts to have credibility, you should consider
losing such
: > slurs as "M$", "Microsloth", "Windoze", etc.
:
: Bob,
: You forgot "Microcrap", "Macrobug", "Monopolsoft", "Microdick",
: "Microshit", "Winblows", "Wincock", etc.
:
: Anybody care to add to the list?
:
: --
: Regards from John Corliss
: No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware,
: nagware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware, viruses
: or warez please.
 
A

Al Smith

Learn more about IE as well. Obviously, you are using it with "install on
Agreed....... "Install on demand" should _never_ be enabled.

There are a lot of other things in Internet Explorer that
shouldn't ever be enabled, such as Active-X. Trouble is, Microsoft
requires that you enable them when you do security updates. Think
about it. Microsoft requires that you make your computer extremely
vulnerable to remote exploits, whenever you download patches to
protect yourself from remote exploits. They do this because they
want completel control over your system while you are connected to
their servers.

Anyone who still uses Internet Explorer as their browser is a
total idiot. There's nothing else to say.
 
B

Bob Adkins

Anyone who still uses Internet Explorer as their browser is a
total idiot. There's nothing else to say.


Over 100 million people in this world use IE with no problems. What's the
matter with you? Learning disability? :D

Bob

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J

JanC

John Corliss said:
You forgot "Microcrap", "Macrobug", "Monopolsoft", "Microdick",
"Microshit", "Winblows", "Wincock", etc.

Anybody care to add to the list?

"Wintendo" (that's what a FreeBSD hacker I know calls Windows ;-)
 
J

JanC

Al Smith said:
There are a lot of other things in Internet Explorer that
shouldn't ever be enabled, such as Active-X. Trouble is, Microsoft
requires that you enable them when you do security updates. Think
about it. Microsoft requires that you make your computer extremely
vulnerable to remote exploits, whenever you download patches to
protect yourself from remote exploits. They do this because they
want completel control over your system while you are connected to
their servers.

You could add WindowsUpdate to the "trusted zone" where you allow ActiveX
and the rest of the internet to a more restricted zone. Or only allow
"Administrator" accounts to do this, while surfing as a "simple user".
Etc.

Obviously, system administration tasks/possibilities like this are not
something most Windows-at-home-users know about. (And Windows does not
include the necessary documentation either--you have to buy it...)
 
D

dszady

Over 100 million people in this world use IE with no problems. What's the
matter with you? Learning disability? :D

On my ISP using Giganews there are 130+ newsgroups about Internet
Explorer. Are you saying they are not having any problems with IE? And if
they are, they have learning disabilities? Please Bob, be kind to the
learning disabled. One or more of them could be in your family. Thank you
for my time and my patience,
 
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Scrubbs

<snip.. general abuse and rants> :)

I feel I should reply to my original posting to clarify a couple of
points.

I do not normally use IE. In fact I avoid it like the plague. It is
normally completely blocked from accessing the internet under any
circumstances. Mozilla v1.6 is my default browser.

However, the sign-up to this particular ISP demanded that I did use IE
(I talked it over with their customer services first). Unfortunately for
just a few minutes I had to enable things, normally disabled, with IE to
do the sign-up. The infection was trivial and immediately spotted and
removed by AdAware. (My PC always boots up offline as a precaution).

Anyway, I'm glad that the warning was appreciated by some :)

/Scrubbs
 

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