Network Access Permission

[Guest]

In MS Help& Support it says To go to "Network Connection" in Control Pannel
and click on Incoming Connection, then Network Tasks, General Tab and User
Tab in order to make necessary permissions to be able to see my network. I
do not have any of this info when I go to Network Connection". There is no
incoming connection to select. I am able to see my other computer and the
workgroup names are the same and I am set up for sharing and I am logged in
as adminstrator, however, I keep getting message that other computer is not
accessible-I do not have necessary permission. Please advise

 

[Carey Holzman]

Please follow the steps at http://www.careyholzman.com/xp/home/xphome-1.htm

I'm not done writing these pages, but go through the manual setup on each PC
following the steps until you get a 'page not found' error, then apply those
changes on each PC by rebooting them and let me know if there is any
difference.

Thanks!
Carey

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

In MS Help& Support it says To go to "Network Connection" in Control Pannel
and click on Incoming Connection, then Network Tasks, General Tab and User
Tab in order to make necessary permissions to be able to see my network. I
do not have any of this info when I go to Network Connection". There is no
incoming connection to select. I am able to see my other computer and the
workgroup names are the same and I am set up for sharing and I am logged in
as adminstrator, however, I keep getting message that other computer is not
accessible-I do not have necessary permission. Please advise

I think that you're looking in the wrong place. There won't be any
"Incoming Connection" icons in the "Network Connections" screen unless
you've explicitly created them. Incoming connections aren't used for
connecting to another computer on a local area network (LAN) via
Ethernet. They're used for dial-up, parallel, serial, infrared, and
VPN connections.

The most common problem on a LAN is that a firewall program is
blocking access. Run XP's Network Setup Wizard on each computer,
being sure to specify the right Internet connection type. If you've
installed a firewall program (Norton Internet Security, ZoneAlarm,
McAfee Personal Firewall, PCCillin, etc), make absolutely sure that
it's configured to allow access by other computers on the LAN.

If that doesn't help, please reply to this message in the news group
(not by E-mail) with more information to help other people understand
the problem. Describe what operating system each computer uses (XP
Professional, XP Home Edition, Windows 98, etc). If a computer uses
XP Professional, specify whether simple file sharing is enabled or
disabled. Describe what you're trying to do, what happens when you do
it, and the complete and exact text of all error messages. I'm sure
that someone can help.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

 

[Guest]

I followed the steps very carefully and really liked your tutorial. All my
settings were already exactly as you describe. I then rebooted, however, I
still do not have permission to view the WinME machine. When I click the
networked machine it says://bedroom 1 is inaccessible, you do not have
permission to view this. Thank you for your help. Please advise further

 

[Guest]

I disabled my MS firewall although it said that it was configured for my
network, however I still do not have access to the other machine. Both
machines (WinME and Win XP Home-SP2) can access the internet but not each
other. It says: //bedroom1 is not accessible, you do not have permission to
view this. Thank you

 

[Malke]

I disabled my MS firewall although it said that it was configured for
my
network, however I still do not have access to the other machine.
Both machines (WinME and Win XP Home-SP2) can access the internet but
not each
other. It says: //bedroom1 is not accessible, you do not have
permission to
view this. Thank you

Make sure your WinME box is using Client for Microsoft Networks to log
on. Create a user account and password on the XP box that is identical
to that being used on the ME box. See if that helps.

Malke

 

[Guest]

Read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813936
and continue to read from Part 1 to 8.

Remember:
1. Both computer have the same username and password.
2. Same class and IP subnet. Say 192.168.2.1 and the other is 192.168.2.2
with the same Network Mask 255.255.255.0

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Make sure your WinME box is using Client for Microsoft Networks to log
on. Create a user account and password on the XP box that is identical
to that being used on the ME box. See if that helps.

Malke

Hi, Bill and Malke. I think that something else is causing the
problem. All of the available logon types (Windows Logon, Client for
Microsoft Networks, and Microsoft Family Logon) are OK on the WinME
box, and they all allow full networking capabilities. Matching user
accounts are sometimes necessary to access a Windows XP Professional
box, but they aren't necessary between Windows XP Home Edition and
WinME.

Bill, these tips should help you get everything working:

1. If the computers run the original or SP1 versions of Windows XP,
disable XP's built-in Internet Connection Firewall on local area
network connections -- it's for use only on a direct modem connection
to the Internet. If they run SP2, enable the exception for file and
printer sharing in the Windows Firewall. Disable and un-install all
other firewall programs while troubleshooting. When un-installing a
firewall program, use the un-install procedure provided by the
manufacturer . Don't use Control Panel | Add or Remove Programs,
which might not completely un-install it.

For more information, see:

Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/ic_firewall.htm

2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
but one of them. Details here:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_protocols.htm

3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all computers.
Details here:

Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/netbt.htm

4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the
beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
peer-to-peer network, for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314053
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

 

[Carey Holzman]

Do you have a firewall installed on the ME PC?

A firewalls job is to lock down your network. If your network is not
functioning it may be because of the firewall. Uninstall all firewalls
before attempting to diagnose a network. Failure to do so may result in all
of your efforts being a waste of time.

Once your network is functioning as it should, THEN lock it down with a
firewall.

Your firewall may be doing such a good job, it's keeping even you out.

Carey

 

[Guest]

I have followed all the advice and appreciate it. I have disabled the
Windows firewall and checked the oterh items mentioned, but I still get the :
not accessible alert. Any further ideas would be greatly appreciated.
William

 

[Carey Holzman]

Try this registry fix on all XP computers on your network:

www.careyholzman.com/xp/home/fixnet.zip

Carey

 

[Guest]

I don't understand why both computers need the same username and password. I
want to have one machine for me and the other for my wife. Won't this
work? Thank you, William

 

[Guest]

Thank you I have downloaded it and will try it. Can you tell me what
changes it makes to the registry? I would like to learn what it does. Thank
you, Regards, William

 

[Carey Holzman]

Feel free to open it in Notepad for that information.

Carey

 

[Leythos]

I don't understand why both computers need the same username and password. I
want to have one machine for me and the other for my wife. Won't this
work? Thank you, William

Because if your wife tries to use your computer without a valid user
account, the security won't let her.

If she has an account on both computer with the same password then the
system will authenticate her in either place without a problem. Same
with you, you need the same user name and password on both sides.

The alternative is to enable the GUEST account, but that's a VERY BAD
THING to do.

 

[Malke]

Because if your wife tries to use your computer without a valid user
account, the security won't let her.

If she has an account on both computer with the same password then the
system will authenticate her in either place without a problem. Same
with you, you need the same user name and password on both sides.

The alternative is to enable the GUEST account, but that's a VERY BAD
THING to do.

Just to expand a bit on Leythos' excellent advice, it isn't that you
only have one user account on both machines; you want to have created
both user accounts/passwords on both machines. You don't need to be
logged into your machine as your wife, but when your wife (from her
machine) tries to access a shared resource on your machine, your
computer sees that she is an authenticated, legitimate user with rights
on your machine and allows her access.

Malke

 

[Leythos]

Just to expand a bit on Leythos' excellent advice, it isn't that you
only have one user account on both machines; you want to have created
both user accounts/passwords on both machines. You don't need to be
logged into your machine as your wife, but when your wife (from her
machine) tries to access a shared resource on your machine, your
computer sees that she is an authenticated, legitimate user with rights
on your machine and allows her access.

And a key thing to note is that when she connects to your machine, she's
actually doing it as the account on your machine, not he user/account
from her machine. If she changes either password (or you do) it will
cause her ability to see your computer. The user, even though they have
the same name/pwd, is actually impersonating the user on the other
machine.

 

[Guest]

Thank you, that was vey helpful, I will do as you suggest and have her set up
an account on my machine. I already have one on her machine. Regards,
William

 

[Guest]

Thank you, it all makes alot of sense now, Regards, William

 

[Guest]

Thank you very much for the explanation, I understand much better now,
Regards, William