My dual boot experience (bad very bad)

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Guest

Overall a very bad experience with a series of system errors. Started with
simple blues screen errors when trying to boot into XP progress to more
serious problems. The early problems were resolved by rebooting again. Then
booted into XP was advised that there had been major hardware changes that
required activation of XP. There had been no hardware changes since before
installing XP. But the capping error happen this morning when I was unable to
boot into XP. The blue screen stated Bad sys config Info. Thankfully I had a
pre Vista disk image and was able to get my system up and running again
without Vista since the boot manager was no longer installed. Reformated the
drive that contained Vista. No more starnge system errors.
 
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Colin Barnhorst

Since you are saying absolutely nothing about what kind of computer you are
using and how you are installing, no one can offer advice. As feedback,
this should be sent to MS via the feedback link. I have not had any of the
problems you describe.
 
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Chad Harris

Yep; we really need specifics,and we could help you have a very good dual
boot experience. I don't have a clue from what you typed what your errors
were, how you burned, if you setup and burned from XP as I would advise. I
don't know what a capping error means but I can promise you I've looked at a
few errors from MSFT in Windows., I tthink you should be commended though
for deploying your recovery disk and pulling your XP out of it--good job!
Now you can make sure you have a good burn and succeed in dual booting and
you'll feel a lot better and it has some definite advantages, I think
because you don't have to move all your files and folders and settings from
XP when you can access them from the Vista desktop easily.

Most likely your errors had zero to do with dual booting if you tried this
correctly and more possibly to do with your Iso burn. I find it easy to
dual boot using these steps:

Here's how most people dual boot the system and it works well, and has
worked well with every build of Vista through 5384.4 (Beta 2) with a bonus
tip. Always install the olderst Windows Operating System first, and that's
XP in this case.

1) Burn the DVD from XP. Use iso tab/burn slowly/close session. 3) You
can find Checksums that will check the integrity of the burn. There are md5
hashes on the web you can use to check--I don't know if an ISO download CRC
tool is made for the public download. Maybe someone can tell you.

An added tip is to optimize your burn do this:

Get to Device Manager by typing devmgmt.msc in run/win key + pause break or
Rt. click My Computer>Prop>hardware tab>Device Manager if you like 5 steps
instead of one cmd. If you're set to PMI here change to DMO and if set to
DMO change to PMI:

a.. Click the + in front of IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers
a.. Double Click the Secondary IDE Controller
a.. Click Advanced Settings
a.. Under Device 1  Next to Transfer Mode choose DMA (or vise versa)
a.. Click OK
a.. Reboot your System

2) When you burn the DVD from Windows XP, you will have the Vista setup
screens on your XP desktop and you will have the option to direct it to the
volume/partition/drive where you have made space. I would give yourself
30-40GB depending on how many programs you plan to install on the Vista
boot. Vista does not take that much space nor do its files and this is
documented on this group, but you will get crowded if you use much less than
20GB fast.

The reason for going into the Vista setup this way from the XP desktop is
you will not get your drive letters rearranged. If you boot from start
outside of XP, this will happen. So be sure to burn the Iso from XP and go
into the Vista setup from the XP desktop--it will be waiting for you when
you complete burning the Iso.

3) This will install easily and you will then have a black and white screen
when you start up that has a list of the current Windows Version (Vista) and
the Previous Windows version.

4) If you leave files/folders/apps in the space you plan to install Vista,
it will tuck them into a Windows Old folder or two. It is optimum to start
fresh and clean, but you should not lose what you have on the drive.

5) The *bonus tip*--How to Access the XP desktop with a click from Vista and
use the XP files and folders without wasting time and space moving them:

6) Once on the Vista boot's desktop, you can save time and real estate by
making a shortcut to the XP desktop assuming XP is on C:\ by typing
C:\Documents and Settings\Bill's Profile\Desktop and dragging the folder
icon from the name bar of the Explorer Window that comes up on the Vista
desktop. If it were an XP explorer folder, you'd be dragging from the
corner of the title bar. This difference also occurs in an IE Windows in XP
and Vista as to dragging the shortcut from the Title Bar in XP and the
Address Bar in Vista.

If you run into problems along the way, and give us specifics, someone would
and could help you.

Good luck,

CH
 
K

KWE

mouse wrote On 6/19/2006 7:34 AM:
Overall a very bad experience with a series of system errors. Started with
simple blues screen errors when trying to boot into XP progress to more
serious problems. The early problems were resolved by rebooting again. Then
booted into XP was advised that there had been major hardware changes that
required activation of XP. There had been no hardware changes since before
installing XP. But the capping error happen this morning when I was unable to
boot into XP. The blue screen stated Bad sys config Info. Thankfully I had a
pre Vista disk image and was able to get my system up and running again
without Vista since the boot manager was no longer installed. Reformated the
drive that contained Vista. No more starnge system errors.

Sounds like you are using multi-boot without a proper boot manager and
probably with Vista and XP on the same partition. You might have more
success if you use a boot manager and put Vista on a completely separate
partition from XP. Then hide the XP partition from Vista and vice versa.
Put your user data on a third partition and tweak Vista and XP to find
your user data on the user data partition.

That should stop the starnge "major hardware changes" messages.
 
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JC

a "boot manager" ? ?

KWE said:
mouse wrote On 6/19/2006 7:34 AM:

Sounds like you are using multi-boot without a proper boot manager and
probably with Vista and XP on the same partition. You might have more
success if you use a boot manager and put Vista on a completely separate
partition from XP. Then hide the XP partition from Vista and vice versa.
Put your user data on a third partition and tweak Vista and XP to find
your user data on the user data partition.

That should stop the starnge "major hardware changes" messages.
 
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Colin Barnhorst

I suggest that you don't be too concerned about a boot manager during beta.
Some folks make the case for third party boot manager software in lieu of
using the Vista generated boot options screen. In your case the "boot
manager" that disappeard was the Boot Configuration Data store which the
Vista installer puts on your XP partition (in most scenarios).
 
G

Guest

:

I am not sure what this guy is referrring to exactly by dual boot. My own
problems are very similar to his. In my case the pc with "dual boot" has 2
partitions - one with winxpsp2(German Lang.) and on the other partition there
is Linux Suse10 with the whole thing using grub to allow me (up until I
unwisely treid to upgrade the xp to vista beta2 - unwise because this *is* a
primary pc - I just dont have the cash to buy a second pc for trying beta
stuff and mostly have been lucky in the past) to choose when booting which
o-system to boot into.

Experiance has almost been identical too what the gent expressed in this
posting. Now the grug boot manager no longer functions correctly so I have
to head for xp vial the linux-suse10. The grug option screen shows for the
normal 5 seconds but is inoperational - i.e. I cant switch the boot
preference away from suse10 to windows. One hits the down arrow-key as usual
but nothing happens.

Inside suse10 I get an error report that there is no music cd in the drive
and/or do I have authority to access it.

When shifting from the suse10 to xp I can then acess the o-system but with a
number of fault reports - stuff like driver needs to be installed for a RAID
system and demand to look for a driver for multimedia suppport and so on - I
just have to click these fault reports away each time and then stuff works
basically ok.

I use a MSoft wireless keyboard and mouse and the mouse seemed to be
acticing a bit lame but that turned out to be low battery status which latter
showed a warning window and was resolved.

The machine is a amd 3000+ based box with 512mb of ram and a 125mb grafic
card.

The blue-screen that the vista- beta2 install produced said (a lot of stuff
in general but also-) that there was a problem with newly installed
hardware/software which needed to be fixed. I uninstalled a logitech webcam
(comncated STX(c)) that I had very recently installed - and the associated
suite of software for it, but the blue screen showed up again.

I kinda suspect that the problem may be an old tv card with more-tv soft
that I have running occasionally when in the xp environ.

But too be honest - once bitten - twice shy - one really should not be
messing with beta-testing on a main/only pc and so while I will be following
the infos here with interest to learn what I can - appart from finding the
time to repaire the grub and or re-install the whole system (xp and linux - a
HUGE undertaking - like 1- 1-1/2 week of work - I am going to leave the beta
of vista until I win the state lottery (or find a _real_ job - I am in
Germany and 57yo so that is unlikely) and then actually have a second pc to
make a clean install onto.


(remind me of the command in winXP to produce a system-config data sheet and
I will post it if anybody is interested?)
 
G

Guest

I don`t beleive it! I just wote a long complex answer to this posting and
posted it with a copy to bln.comp.pc and the response was: "There has been an
effor and your post has not been received - goddammit - what was all my
effort for doing the article if this is what is going to happen when posting
it!?
 
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Colin Barnhorst

The web-based reader gives a false report sometimes. That accounts for the
multiple postings (folks naturally try again).
 

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