MS Word, Outlook, Excel and Power Point for Vista

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Greg

Does the Home Basic and Home Premimum include the above office programs? No
where on the package or MS website can I find the answer?

If the office programs are not on the basic vista software then how do I
down grade my new laptop back to XP instead of Vista?
 
D

DL

Niether Vista or XP o/s includes office applications
Office is a seperate application that you buy
 
R

Rick Rogers

Hi Greg,

No version of Windows has ever included the MS Office applications.
Frequently, they may be bundled by a system manufacturer on preinstalled
machines, which has led to some confusion about their being included, but
they aren't part of Windows. Never were. Vista, like XP, Windows 2000, Win98
before it, is an operating system, not an application.

To downgrade, one must boot with the XP CD, remove the existing system
partition during the initial stage of setup, create a new one from the free
space, then format and proceed with the install. Before doing so, you would
want to check with the manufacturer to ensure that drivers are available for
the hardware under XP. Home versions of Vista do not have downgrade rights,
so you will need to purchase your own license.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
 
D

DM

As the other two previous posts, applications are separate purchases from
operating systems.

Now, depending on your laptop MFG, your new laptop should have came with a
60 trial of Office 07. My wife just bought the cheapest laptop she could
find and it (home premium) came with that just as my PC did when I bought it
(home basic) six months ago.
 
R

ray

Does the Home Basic and Home Premimum include the above office programs?
No where on the package or MS website can I find the answer?

If the office programs are not on the basic vista software then how do I
down grade my new laptop back to XP instead of Vista?

No, they are not included. If you have a previous version of MS Office
you may be able to install that. Another option would be OpenOffice.org
which is free and very compatible.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Does the Home Basic and Home Premimum include the above office programs? No
where on the package or MS website can I find the answer?


No, neither Windows Vista (in *any* edition), nor any other version of
Windows, has ever included Excel, Word, PowerPoint, Access, or any
other significant application software. Such programs have to be
bought, either by themselves or as part of Microsoft Office.

If your previous computer, running an older version of Windows, came
with one or more of these, it was because the vendor who sold it
bundled it as part of the package he sold you, not because that
version of Windows came with it. Some, but not all, vendors do the
same with Windows Vista.
 
J

Jeff Strickland

Vista is the Operating System. Word, Excel, et al, are software applications
included as part of Office 2007. Vista comes with a limited feature free
version of the Office Suite, but to get full functionality you have to pay a
fee.

XP is also an operating system, so downgrading your new lap top will not
solve the problem.

What will solve your problem is to Remove the Office 2007 applications and
install the Office XP (also known as Office 2003) onto the Vista machine.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Vista is the Operating System. Word, Excel, et al, are software applications
included as part of Office 2007.


....as well as other versions of Microsoft Office.

Vista comes with a limited feature free
version of the Office Suite,


No, it doesn't, although *some* OEMs may distribute a free trial with
their computers.

but to get full functionality you have to pay a
fee.

XP is also an operating system, so downgrading your new lap top will not
solve the problem.


It would very likely create much more severe new problems. Since it's
a laptop, and a new one, there's an excellent chance that XP drivers
for it aren't available.

Greg should also note that some computer manufacturers consider that
changing the operating system voids the warranty on the computer.

What will solve your problem is to Remove the Office 2007 applications and



Office 2007 applications? Where did he say that he had Office 2007
applications? In fact, it's pretty clear from his message that he has
*no* Microsoft Office applications.

install the Office XP (also known as Office 2003) onto the Vista machine.


No, Office XP is not also known as Office 2003. Office XP is also
known as Office 2002. Office 2003 is the release after Office XP
(2002) and before Office 2007.
 
J

Jeff Strickland

Ken Blake said:
...as well as other versions of Microsoft Office.




No, it doesn't, although *some* OEMs may distribute a free trial with
their computers.
I bought two Vista machines, both had limited-function Office 07. If I was
the Marketing Director at Bill & Co., I'd give away the limited feature
Office with every copy of Vista, and ESPECIALLY with Vista that comes
pre-installed on new machines. The Office Suite runs just long enough to get
people hooked, then they have to buy it to keep it going. The Free Trial
Period gives pretty good functionality, after the trial period expires, the
useability drops so far as to make the apps useless for all practical
purposes.



It would very likely create much more severe new problems. Since it's
a laptop, and a new one, there's an excellent chance that XP drivers
for it aren't available.

Greg should also note that some computer manufacturers consider that
changing the operating system voids the warranty on the computer.





Office 2007 applications? Where did he say that he had Office 2007
applications? In fact, it's pretty clear from his message that he has
*no* Microsoft Office applications.

Office 07 is what comes with Vista IF Office comes at all. If there is no
Office, it doesn't matter. Office 2003 (aka Office for XP) works fine on
Vista.


No, Office XP is not also known as Office 2003. Office XP is also
known as Office 2002. Office 2003 is the release after Office XP
(2002) and before Office 2007.

Good call, sorry for my confusion. It turns out I have both versions of
Office, and thought they were both the same. In any case, Office 2003 works
on Vista without any problem.
 
D

DL

The trial version has full functionality for ** days after which it is
simply a viewer of docs created, but then thats hardly surprising
 
J

Jeff Strickland

Yeah, after the trial period is over, it is little bettter than Notepad. It
might even be worse because any Wrod document will be loaded down with
control code that NotePad does not insert.

I removed my Trial Version of Office 07 without ever starting it.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Greg said:
Does the Home Basic and Home Premimum include the above office programs? No
where on the package or MS website can I find the answer?

If the office programs are not on the basic vista software then how do I
down grade my new laptop back to XP instead of Vista?


Neither the Microsoft Office application suite, nor any of its
individual component applications (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Access,
Outlook, etc.), have _ever_ been "part" of *any* Windows operating
system. They are, and always have been, separate applications, that
must be purchased and installed separately.

Microsoft Office comes pre-installed on new computers only when the
computer manufacturer chooses to offer it, and the purchaser is willing
to pay extra for it.


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