Mixing drives

[Colin Bearfield]

Hi

My friend had a 15Gb samsung drive that was virtually full so I
installed a 160Gb Western Digital drive.

I cloned from the old drive to the new one and jumpered the new one as
master with slave. I jumpered the old one as slave.. The slave is not
seen at all while the new one boots up perfectly. I've tried the old
one as both slave and as cable select.

Has anybody any ideas?

Colin

 

[old jon]

Hi

My friend had a 15Gb samsung drive that was virtually full so I
installed a 160Gb Western Digital drive.

I cloned from the old drive to the new one and jumpered the new one as
master with slave. I jumpered the old one as slave.. The slave is not
seen at all while the new one boots up perfectly. I've tried the old
one as both slave and as cable select.

Has anybody any ideas?

Colin

Make sure the WD is configured as Master with Slave, or Master.
Config the Samsung as Slave, you should see them both in the BIOS.

 

[Guest]

Make sure the WD is configured as Master with Slave, or Master.
Config the Samsung as Slave, you should see them both in the BIOS.

I don't. I could try single Master for thhe WD and the Samsung as
slave, but WD as Master with slave and Samsung as slave doesn't work.

Colin

 

[old jon]

I don't. I could try single Master for thhe WD and the Samsung as
slave, but WD as Master with slave and Samsung as slave doesn't work.

Colin

Try the original drive by itself again to confirm it`s still OK.
Then make sure you`ve connected it properly as Slave
ie ribbon cable, stripe on wire next to power plug.

-- bw..OJ

 

[Ken]

Hi

My friend had a 15Gb samsung drive that was virtually full so I
installed a 160Gb Western Digital drive.

I cloned from the old drive to the new one and jumpered the new one as
master with slave. I jumpered the old one as slave.. The slave is not
seen at all while the new one boots up perfectly. I've tried the old
one as both slave and as cable select.

Has anybody any ideas?

Colin

If it is not seen during boot up, then the disk is not jumpered
correctly, not wired correctly with the IDE cable, or not spinning up
when power is applied. Make sure the disk is spinning once power is
applied.

If on the other hand it is detected but not being read, it did not have
an disk overlay installed did it?? Another possibility is that the old
drive was NTFS and the new one was FAT32.

 

[old jon]

If it is not seen during boot up, then the disk is not jumpered correctly,
not wired correctly with the IDE cable, or not spinning up when power is
applied. Make sure the disk is spinning once power is applied.

If on the other hand it is detected but not being read, it did not have an
disk overlay installed did it?? Another possibility is that the old drive
was NTFS and the new one was FAT32.

Hi Ken. Colin said the new drive is a clone of the old.

 

[Guest]

If it is not seen during boot up, then the disk is not jumpered
correctly, not wired correctly with the IDE cable, or not spinning up
when power is applied. Make sure the disk is spinning once power is
applied.

If on the other hand it is detected but not being read, it did not have
an disk overlay installed did it?? Another possibility is that the old
drive was NTFS and the new one was FAT32.

I can confirm that both drives were NTFS but cloning would have sorted
any difference.

The old drive is in good order, I'm confident of that because we've
been through this exercise twice. Each time it has been seen only as
the master. The configuration is correct as regards the stripe and
pin 1 and power cable. The new master is on the end of the IDE data
cable.

At the moment the new drive is on its own and jumpered as single
master.

Both drives were running on boot up but the POST showed no slave.

Would putting them both into cable select mode help?

Colin

 

[Ken]

I can confirm that both drives were NTFS but cloning would have sorted
any difference.

The old drive is in good order, I'm confident of that because we've
been through this exercise twice. Each time it has been seen only as
the master. The configuration is correct as regards the stripe and
pin 1 and power cable. The new master is on the end of the IDE data
cable.

At the moment the new drive is on its own and jumpered as single
master.

Both drives were running on boot up but the POST showed no slave.

Would putting them both into cable select mode help?

Colin

As others have suggested, I would try the old HD by itself. Perhaps
removing the cable from your CD/DVD drive temporarily and making the old
HD a master on the secondary IDE cable. This will at least assure you
that the drive is working as it once did.

It sounds like either the drive status or the IDE cable you had been
using has changed from when it first was used. Establishing whether the
HD still works is step one. If it works, then it must be jumpers, or a
bad cable.

I hope you have your CMOS setting for the second drive on the first IDE
controller set to Auto Detect, and not something else?

 

[Guest]

As others have suggested, I would try the old HD by itself. Perhaps
removing the cable from your CD/DVD drive temporarily and making the old
HD a master on the secondary IDE cable. This will at least assure you
that the drive is working as it once did.

I could almost stake my life that it is working, but running it from
the other channel is an interesting thought.

It sounds like either the drive status or the IDE cable you had been
using has changed from when it first was used. Establishing whether the
HD still works is step one. If it works, then it must be jumpers, or a
bad cable.

I hope you have your CMOS setting for the second drive on the first IDE
controller set to Auto Detect, and not something else?

Likewise, there might be some mileage in checking the status here.

I'll be back.

Colin

 

[don]

Are you using an Ultra ATA cable? (Ultra ATA Cable has 80 conductors and 40
pins, and usually has one blue connector{connects to MB}one Grey Connector
on the end {for the Master} and one black connector {for the slave})

If yes, then Jumper both drives as CableSelect and Connect the master to the
end of the ribbon cable and the slave to the connector in the middle of the
cable.

 

[don]

Sorry I got the black and grey locations reversed.

 

[Guest]

Thankks, Don, I'll check that. The master is on the end connector,
but I seem to remember that both connectors are black. Certainly the
one on the master is.

Because it's a friend's computer I might not get to see it until
tomorrow now.

The actual mobo may be seen at this page:

http://msicomputer.co.uk/products.aspx?product_id=703405

Many thanks.

Colin