MISSING PAGEFILE.SYS FILE

[Guest]

Have read a number of posts about pagefile.sys problems, and been through
<much, most?> of the excellent aumha.org content, the Microsoft Knowledge
Base and this user group, and am still baffled.

I can reset the min./max. size of the pagefile in either the GUI panel or in
the registry. In either case, it shows the changes as having been accepted,
but I continue to get the missing pagefile error message when restarting XP.
I have tried to make the change in both the Administrator and user account

One other rub -- I cannot find pagefile.sys in the C:\ (root) directory,
even though that's where the system says the pagefile is located. I have
set folder options to show hidden files/folders and to not hide protected
files.

Believe all permissions are properly set for both the Administrator and my
own user account, following instructions in the XP KB file (315270).

I believe the fact I can't see a pagefile.sys is a critical part of the
story. Am running under SP-1, Symantec is disabled (for now).

Any thoughts?

 

[George Hester]

The article says this at the end:

However, the Everyone group includes the System account. Removing the
Everyone group without adding the System account as an individual account
renders the paging file unusable

You need to make sure that Everyone has FULL permissions on the Root of the
drive where pagefile.sys resides. Everyone does not mean everyone in the
world. What it means is Everyone that has permissions to log into the
system. Set the NTFS permissions on the Root to haveFULL permissions and do
not reset the permissions to propagate to all subfolders subobjects.

 

[Guest]

Simply open system properties,advanced,performance,virtual memory,change
button,select "let windows manage" then click set 2X Close out,a restart
should be prompted.For more info,go to search at microsoft type:555223

 

[Guest]

"Everyone" is set for full permission. All settings are continuing to
register (I can see them on the virtual memory page accessed by using control
sysdm.cpl or going to the Registry and viewing the setting under "Memory
Management") But no pagefile.sys is apparently being created.

I can't believe I'm the only person who has followed all the directions and
not been able to get pagefile to work <G!>.

I started to install SP2 and believe I stopped it before it actually
installed (got cold feet about the quality of my backup at the time). Could
this be a part of the problem? Seems likely not.

Interestingly, I also cannot rollback and use any previous restore point --
that was one of my earlier attempts at solving the problem. The system says
it can't be done and that no changes have been made.

 

[George Hester]

The issue is a NTFS Permissions problem. You still should have a 25MB
pagefile.sys somewhere most likely in C:\Windows but it should be on the
root C:.

You had said this, " Believe all permissions are properly set for both
the Administrator and my own user account..." There should be nothing more
or less than the Everyone Group having Full NTFS permssions on the root C:
And you must set those permissions using the Admin account. Is your
boot.ini also on the root C:?

 

[Guest]

Hello, George...

Thanks for riding along.

Agree that there's a permissions problem. Have gone into properties for the
c:\ root and killed all permission groups except Everyone Group and System.
Am still not getting apagefile.sys file created. I can make changes all day
long in the GUI or registry, and they'll save, but no file is created. No
pagefile.sys exists, although boot.ini does reside in the c:\ root.

All permission options are checked for both Everyone and System.

BTW, have uninstalled and reinstalled Norton AV 2005. Am having a problem
there with Liveupdatehandling properly.

Am beginning to wonder if I have a partial SP-2 installation problem. I'm
running out of things to do to allow Windows to write the pagefile.sys.

Blake

The issue is a NTFS Permissions problem. You still should have a 25MB
pagefile.sys somewhere most likely in C:\Windows but it should be on the
root C:.

You had said this, " Believe all permissions are properly set for both
the Administrator and my own user account..." There should be nothing more
or less than the Everyone Group having Full NTFS permssions on the root C:
And you must set those permissions using the Admin account. Is your
boot.ini also on the root C:?

--

George Hester
_________________________________

"Everyone" is set for full permission. All settings are continuing to
register (I can see them on the virtual memory page accessed by using control
sysdm.cpl or going to the Registry and viewing the setting under "Memory
Management") But no pagefile.sys is apparently being created.

I can't believe I'm the only person who has followed all the directions and
not been able to get pagefile to work <G!>.

I started to install SP2 and believe I stopped it before it actually
installed (got cold feet about the quality of my backup at the time). Could
this be a part of the problem? Seems likely not.

Interestingly, I also cannot rollback and use any previous restore point --
that was one of my earlier attempts at solving the problem. The system says
it can't be done and that no changes have been made.

 

[George Hester]

OK I do not know why you are doing this C:\root. What you mean is the root
C: I hope. Not a folder on C drive called root. Again where is your
boot.ini? If you do not see it then you have not enabled viewing all files
correctly like I suggested you do earlier. Or you are not using NTFS but if
you can set permissions you must be.

There is no need to have a seperate permissions set for the System account
on the root. The Everyone Group is sufficient with Full NTFS permissions -
Everything checked allow Full Control | Modify... and so on. Nothing else.

--

George Hester
_________________________________

Hello, George...

Thanks for riding along.

Agree that there's a permissions problem. Have gone into properties for the
c:\ root and killed all permission groups except Everyone Group and System.
Am still not getting apagefile.sys file created. I can make changes all day
long in the GUI or registry, and they'll save, but no file is created. No
pagefile.sys exists, although boot.ini does reside in the c:\ root.

All permission options are checked for both Everyone and System.

BTW, have uninstalled and reinstalled Norton AV 2005. Am having a problem
there with Liveupdatehandling properly.

Am beginning to wonder if I have a partial SP-2 installation problem. I'm
running out of things to do to allow Windows to write the pagefile.sys.

Blake

The issue is a NTFS Permissions problem. You still should have a 25MB
pagefile.sys somewhere most likely in C:\Windows but it should be on the
root C:.

You had said this, " Believe all permissions are properly set for both
the Administrator and my own user account..." There should be nothing more
or less than the Everyone Group having Full NTFS permssions on the root C:
And you must set those permissions using the Admin account. Is your
boot.ini also on the root C:?

--

George Hester
_________________________________

"Everyone" is set for full permission. All settings are continuing to
register (I can see them on the virtual memory page accessed by using control
sysdm.cpl or going to the Registry and viewing the setting under "Memory
Management") But no pagefile.sys is apparently being created.

I can't believe I'm the only person who has followed all the

directions
and

not been able to get pagefile to work <G!>.

I started to install SP2 and believe I stopped it before it actually
installed (got cold feet about the quality of my backup at the time). Could
this be a part of the problem? Seems likely not.

Interestingly, I also cannot rollback and use any previous restore point --
that was one of my earlier attempts at solving the problem. The

system
says

it can't be done and that no changes have been made.

:

The article says this at the end:

However, the Everyone group includes the System account. Removing the
Everyone group without adding the System account as an individual account
renders the paging file unusable

You need to make sure that Everyone has FULL permissions on the Root

of
the

drive where pagefile.sys resides. Everyone does not mean everyone

in
the

world. What it means is Everyone that has permissions to log into the
system. Set the NTFS permissions on the Root to haveFULL permissions

and
do

not reset the permissions to propagate to all subfolders subobjects.

--

George Hester
_________________________________
Have read a number of posts about pagefile.sys problems, and been through
<much, most?> of the excellent aumha.org content, the Microsoft Knowledge
Base and this user group, and am still baffled.

I can reset the min./max. size of the pagefile in either the GUI

panel
or

in
the registry. In either case, it shows the changes as having been
accepted,
but I continue to get the missing pagefile error message when restarting
XP.> > > Believe all permissions are properly set for both the Administrator and my
own user account, following instructions in the XP KB file (315270).
I have tried to make the change in both the Administrator and user account

One other rub -- I cannot find pagefile.sys in the C:\ (root) directory,
even though that's where the system says the pagefile is located.

I
have

set folder options to show hidden files/folders and to not hide protected


I believe the fact I can't see a pagefile.sys is a critical part

of
the

story. Am running under SP-1, Symantec is disabled (for now).

Any thoughts?

 

[Guest]

Sorry for the fog. Boot.ini is in c:\. No pagefile.sys anywhere. All boxes
are checked on the Everyone group. As you already surmised, reveal of
properties for the C drive shows it as an NTFS file system. I'm at a loss.

OK I do not know why you are doing this C:\root. What you mean is the root
C: I hope. Not a folder on C drive called root. Again where is your
boot.ini? If you do not see it then you have not enabled viewing all files
correctly like I suggested you do earlier. Or you are not using NTFS but if
you can set permissions you must be.

There is no need to have a seperate permissions set for the System account
on the root. The Everyone Group is sufficient with Full NTFS permissions -
Everything checked allow Full Control | Modify... and so on. Nothing else.

--

George Hester
_________________________________

Hello, George...

Thanks for riding along.

Agree that there's a permissions problem. Have gone into properties for the
c:\ root and killed all permission groups except Everyone Group and System.
Am still not getting apagefile.sys file created. I can make changes all day
long in the GUI or registry, and they'll save, but no file is created. No
pagefile.sys exists, although boot.ini does reside in the c:\ root.

All permission options are checked for both Everyone and System.

BTW, have uninstalled and reinstalled Norton AV 2005. Am having a problem
there with Liveupdatehandling properly.

Am beginning to wonder if I have a partial SP-2 installation problem. I'm
running out of things to do to allow Windows to write the pagefile.sys.

Blake

The issue is a NTFS Permissions problem. You still should have a 25MB
pagefile.sys somewhere most likely in C:\Windows but it should be on the
root C:.

You had said this, " Believe all permissions are properly set for both
the Administrator and my own user account..." There should be nothing more
or less than the Everyone Group having Full NTFS permssions on the root C:
And you must set those permissions using the Admin account. Is your
boot.ini also on the root C:?

--

George Hester
_________________________________
"Everyone" is set for full permission. All settings are continuing to
register (I can see them on the virtual memory page accessed by using
control
sysdm.cpl or going to the Registry and viewing the setting under "Memory
Management") But no pagefile.sys is apparently being created.

I can't believe I'm the only person who has followed all the directions
and
not been able to get pagefile to work <G!>.

I started to install SP2 and believe I stopped it before it actually
installed (got cold feet about the quality of my backup at the time).
Could
this be a part of the problem? Seems likely not.

Interestingly, I also cannot rollback and use any previous restore
point --
that was one of my earlier attempts at solving the problem. The system
says
it can't be done and that no changes have been made.

:

The article says this at the end:

However, the Everyone group includes the System account. Removing the
Everyone group without adding the System account as an individual
account
renders the paging file unusable

You need to make sure that Everyone has FULL permissions on the Root of
the
drive where pagefile.sys resides. Everyone does not mean everyone in
the
world. What it means is Everyone that has permissions to log into the
system. Set the NTFS permissions on the Root to haveFULL permissions and
do
not reset the permissions to propagate to all subfolders subobjects.

--

George Hester
_________________________________
Have read a number of posts about pagefile.sys problems, and been
through
<much, most?> of the excellent aumha.org content, the Microsoft
Knowledge
Base and this user group, and am still baffled.

I can reset the min./max. size of the pagefile in either the GUI panel
or
in
the registry. In either case, it shows the changes as having been
accepted,
but I continue to get the missing pagefile error message when
restarting
XP.> > > Believe all permissions are properly set for both the
Administrator and my
own user account, following instructions in the XP KB file (315270).
I have tried to make the change in both the Administrator and user
account

One other rub -- I cannot find pagefile.sys in the C:\ (root)
directory,
even though that's where the system says the pagefile is located. I
have
set folder options to show hidden files/folders and to not hide
protected
files.



I believe the fact I can't see a pagefile.sys is a critical part of
the
story. Am running under SP-1, Symantec is disabled (for now).

Any thoughts?

 

[George Hester]

The pagefuile.sys has to be created somewhere. Windows will NOT work at all
if it cannot be created somewhere. That is just the way it is. OK you can
see the boot.ini on the root. That means you have enabled "seeing" system
and hidden files correctly. I want you to go to the root of each of your
drives do this and paste back here the results of each file you will make.
Do not worry about the size they should not be too big. Let us do this on C
first and if you have other drives I want you to do the same thing on each.

Start | Run | cmd | cd\ | attrib > contentsc.txt <ENTER>

When you want to do this on D drive say like this:

Start | Run | cmd | d: | cd\ | attrib > contentsd.txt <ENTER>

Now do this for each drive changing the name of the txt file contentsc.txt,
contentsd.txt,... and so on. Do not do this on your CD-ROM\DVD or floppy
drive but do do it on any External drive if you are using one.

Open each of these txt files in Notepad | Edit | Select All | Copy

and in your response:

Edit | Paste.

And send it off back here.

--

George Hester
_________________________________

Sorry for the fog. Boot.ini is in c:\. No pagefile.sys anywhere. All boxes
are checked on the Everyone group. As you already surmised, reveal of
properties for the C drive shows it as an NTFS file system. I'm at a loss.

OK I do not know why you are doing this C:\root. What you mean is the root
C: I hope. Not a folder on C drive called root. Again where is your
boot.ini? If you do not see it then you have not enabled viewing all files
correctly like I suggested you do earlier. Or you are not using NTFS but if
you can set permissions you must be.

There is no need to have a seperate permissions set for the System account
on the root. The Everyone Group is sufficient with Full NTFS permissions -
Everything checked allow Full Control | Modify... and so on. Nothing else.

--

George Hester
_________________________________

Hello, George...

Thanks for riding along.

Agree that there's a permissions problem. Have gone into properties

for
the

c:\ root and killed all permission groups except Everyone Group and System.
Am still not getting apagefile.sys file created. I can make changes

all
day

long in the GUI or registry, and they'll save, but no file is created. No
pagefile.sys exists, although boot.ini does reside in the c:\ root.

All permission options are checked for both Everyone and System.

BTW, have uninstalled and reinstalled Norton AV 2005. Am having a problem
there with Liveupdatehandling properly.

Am beginning to wonder if I have a partial SP-2 installation problem. I'm
running out of things to do to allow Windows to write the pagefile.sys.

Blake


:

The issue is a NTFS Permissions problem. You still should have a 25MB
pagefile.sys somewhere most likely in C:\Windows but it should be on the
root C:.

You had said this, " Believe all permissions are properly set for both
the Administrator and my own user account..." There should be

nothing
more

or less than the Everyone Group having Full NTFS permssions on the

root
C:

And you must set those permissions using the Admin account. Is your
boot.ini also on the root C:?

--

George Hester
_________________________________
"Everyone" is set for full permission. All settings are continuing to
register (I can see them on the virtual memory page accessed by using
control
sysdm.cpl or going to the Registry and viewing the setting under "Memory
Management") But no pagefile.sys is apparently being created.

I can't believe I'm the only person who has followed all the directions
and
not been able to get pagefile to work <G!>.

I started to install SP2 and believe I stopped it before it actually
installed (got cold feet about the quality of my backup at the time).
Could
this be a part of the problem? Seems likely not.

Interestingly, I also cannot rollback and use any previous restore
point --
that was one of my earlier attempts at solving the problem. The system
says
it can't be done and that no changes have been made.

:

The article says this at the end:

However, the Everyone group includes the System account.

Removing
the

Everyone group without adding the System account as an individual
account
renders the paging file unusable

You need to make sure that Everyone has FULL permissions on the

Root
of

the
drive where pagefile.sys resides. Everyone does not mean

everyone
in

the
world. What it means is Everyone that has permissions to log

into
the

system. Set the NTFS permissions on the Root to haveFULL

permissions
and

do
not reset the permissions to propagate to all subfolders subobjects.

--

George Hester
_________________________________
Have read a number of posts about pagefile.sys problems, and been
through
<much, most?> of the excellent aumha.org content, the Microsoft
Knowledge
Base and this user group, and am still baffled.

I can reset the min./max. size of the pagefile in either the

GUI
panel

or
in
the registry. In either case, it shows the changes as having been
accepted,
but I continue to get the missing pagefile error message when
restarting
XP.> > > Believe all permissions are properly set for both the
Administrator and my
own user account, following instructions in the XP KB file (315270).
I have tried to make the change in both the Administrator and user
account

One other rub -- I cannot find pagefile.sys in the C:\ (root)
directory,
even though that's where the system says the pagefile is

located.
I

have
set folder options to show hidden files/folders and to not hide
protected
files.



I believe the fact I can't see a pagefile.sys is a critical

part
of

the
story. Am running under SP-1, Symantec is disabled (for now).

Any thoughts?

 

[Guest]

Hi, George...

Hope you haven't stopped following this thread -- before catching your most
recent <!> reply, I got waylaid on some other activities and couldn't/didn't
find time to come back to this vexing problem.

What follows the the dump of C, as instructed. I have no other fixed drives
.. Note the lack of pagesile.sys.

Blake

C:\091504 tax calcs.txt
C:\091504 tax calcs.xls
C:\1230docs-_and_qb_and_qkn_KML.bkf
C:\1H2005.TXT
C:\1H2005.xls
C:\AIBM_ALM.DBG
H C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
C:\backup05.log
SHR C:\BOOT.INI
H C:\BOOTLOG.PRV
H C:\BOOTLOG.TXT
SH C:\BOOTSECT.DOS
H C:\CONFIG.SYS
A C:\contentsc.txt
C:\drivez.log
C:\Eating Disorders - Nutritional Considerations.ppt
C:\first_CY_2005.TXT
C:\first_CY_2005.xls
C:\hcwclear.txt
A SH C:\hiberfil.sys
H C:\IO.SYS
C:\LOGFILE.txt
C:\MDacLog.txt
SHR C:\MSDOS.SYS
C:\navigator.xml
C:\Normal.dot
SHR C:\NTDETECT.COM
SHR C:\ntldr
C:\P&P Open Balance 032205.TXT
C:\Pembroke Case Study v1.1 DRAFT.doc
C:\Rescued document.txt
C:\response to xp problem 021106.doc
C:\Shortcut to IBM_PRELOAD (C).lnk
C:\SYSLEVEL.IBM
C:\TCPACHIP.LOG
C:\temp-If you are using Norton or Symantec Antivirus 2004 or
2005 the default.doc
C:\temp-virtual memory 020406.doc
C:\temp-VolumeC.txt
C:\temp.doc
C:\temp.jpg
C:\Temporary back Up File Test.doc
C:\TGBC____.TTF
SH C:\Thumbs.db
C:\VolumeC-020406.txt
C:\VolumeC.txt
C:\VolumeC_011506.txt
A C:\VolumeC_031306.txt
C:\VolumeC_050705.txt

The pagefuile.sys has to be created somewhere. Windows will NOT work at all
if it cannot be created somewhere. That is just the way it is. OK you can
see the boot.ini on the root. That means you have enabled "seeing" system
and hidden files correctly. I want you to go to the root of each of your
drives do this and paste back here the results of each file you will make.
Do not worry about the size they should not be too big. Let us do this on C
first and if you have other drives I want you to do the same thing on each.

Start | Run | cmd | cd\ | attrib > contentsc.txt <ENTER>

When you want to do this on D drive say like this:

Start | Run | cmd | d: | cd\ | attrib > contentsd.txt <ENTER>

Now do this for each drive changing the name of the txt file contentsc.txt,
contentsd.txt,... and so on. Do not do this on your CD-ROM\DVD or floppy
drive but do do it on any External drive if you are using one.

Open each of these txt files in Notepad | Edit | Select All | Copy

and in your response:

Edit | Paste.

And send it off back here.

--

George Hester
_________________________________

Sorry for the fog. Boot.ini is in c:\. No pagefile.sys anywhere. All boxes
are checked on the Everyone group. As you already surmised, reveal of
properties for the C drive shows it as an NTFS file system. I'm at a loss.

OK I do not know why you are doing this C:\root. What you mean is the root
C: I hope. Not a folder on C drive called root. Again where is your
boot.ini? If you do not see it then you have not enabled viewing all files
correctly like I suggested you do earlier. Or you are not using NTFS but if
you can set permissions you must be.

There is no need to have a seperate permissions set for the System account
on the root. The Everyone Group is sufficient with Full NTFS permissions -
Everything checked allow Full Control | Modify... and so on. Nothing else.

--

George Hester
_________________________________
Hello, George...

Thanks for riding along.

Agree that there's a permissions problem. Have gone into properties for
the
c:\ root and killed all permission groups except Everyone Group and
System.
Am still not getting apagefile.sys file created. I can make changes all
day
long in the GUI or registry, and they'll save, but no file is created. No
pagefile.sys exists, although boot.ini does reside in the c:\ root.

All permission options are checked for both Everyone and System.

BTW, have uninstalled and reinstalled Norton AV 2005. Am having a problem
there with Liveupdatehandling properly.

Am beginning to wonder if I have a partial SP-2 installation problem. I'm
running out of things to do to allow Windows to write the pagefile.sys.

Blake


:

The issue is a NTFS Permissions problem. You still should have a 25MB
pagefile.sys somewhere most likely in C:\Windows but it should be on the
root C:.

You had said this, " Believe all permissions are properly set for
both
the Administrator and my own user account..." There should be nothing
more
or less than the Everyone Group having Full NTFS permssions on the root
C:
And you must set those permissions using the Admin account. Is your
boot.ini also on the root C:?

--

George Hester
_________________________________
"Everyone" is set for full permission. All settings are continuing to
register (I can see them on the virtual memory page accessed by using
control
sysdm.cpl or going to the Registry and viewing the setting under
"Memory
Management") But no pagefile.sys is apparently being created.

I can't believe I'm the only person who has followed all the
directions
and
not been able to get pagefile to work <G!>.

I started to install SP2 and believe I stopped it before it actually
installed (got cold feet about the quality of my backup at the time).
Could
this be a part of the problem? Seems likely not.

Interestingly, I also cannot rollback and use any previous restore
point --
that was one of my earlier attempts at solving the problem. The
system
says
it can't be done and that no changes have been made.

:

The article says this at the end:

However, the Everyone group includes the System account. Removing
the
Everyone group without adding the System account as an individual
account
renders the paging file unusable

You need to make sure that Everyone has FULL permissions on the Root
of
the
drive where pagefile.sys resides. Everyone does not mean everyone
in
the
world. What it means is Everyone that has permissions to log into
the
system. Set the NTFS permissions on the Root to haveFULL permissions
and
do
not reset the permissions to propagate to all subfolders subobjects.

--

George Hester
_________________________________
Have read a number of posts about pagefile.sys problems, and been
through
<much, most?> of the excellent aumha.org content, the Microsoft
Knowledge
Base and this user group, and am still baffled.

I can reset the min./max. size of the pagefile in either the GUI
panel
or
in
the registry. In either case, it shows the changes as having been
accepted,
but I continue to get the missing pagefile error message when
restarting
XP.> > > Believe all permissions are properly set for both the
Administrator and my
own user account, following instructions in the XP KB file
(315270).
I have tried to make the change in both the Administrator and user
account

One other rub -- I cannot find pagefile.sys in the C:\ (root)
directory,
even though that's where the system says the pagefile is located.
I
have
set folder options to show hidden files/folders and to not hide
protected
files.



I believe the fact I can't see a pagefile.sys is a critical part
of
the
story. Am running under SP-1, Symantec is disabled (for now).

Any thoughts?

 

[George Hester]

Sorry man this is not possible. There has to be a pagefile.sys somewhere if
not on the root maybe in C:\Windows. Has to be. Windows XP cannot run
without at least a ~24MB pagefile.sys. Can you see other sys files? Look
in C:\Windows\system32. Look for keyboard.sys. You also might try
searching from the root for *.sys and see if it shows up. You should have a
pagefile.sys that is approximately size = 1.5*(Installed RAM).

--

George Hester
_________________________________

Hi, George...

Hope you haven't stopped following this thread -- before catching your most
recent <!> reply, I got waylaid on some other activities and couldn't/didn't
find time to come back to this vexing problem.

What follows the the dump of C, as instructed. I have no other fixed drives
. Note the lack of pagesile.sys.

Blake

C:\091504 tax calcs.txt
C:\091504 tax calcs.xls
C:\1230docs-_and_qb_and_qkn_KML.bkf
C:\1H2005.TXT
C:\1H2005.xls
C:\AIBM_ALM.DBG
H C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
C:\backup05.log
SHR C:\BOOT.INI
H C:\BOOTLOG.PRV
H C:\BOOTLOG.TXT
SH C:\BOOTSECT.DOS
H C:\CONFIG.SYS
A C:\contentsc.txt
C:\drivez.log
C:\Eating Disorders - Nutritional Considerations.ppt
C:\first_CY_2005.TXT
C:\first_CY_2005.xls
C:\hcwclear.txt
A SH C:\hiberfil.sys
H C:\IO.SYS
C:\LOGFILE.txt
C:\MDacLog.txt
SHR C:\MSDOS.SYS
C:\navigator.xml
C:\Normal.dot
SHR C:\NTDETECT.COM
SHR C:\ntldr
C:\P&P Open Balance 032205.TXT
C:\Pembroke Case Study v1.1 DRAFT.doc
C:\Rescued document.txt
C:\response to xp problem 021106.doc
C:\Shortcut to IBM_PRELOAD (C).lnk
C:\SYSLEVEL.IBM
C:\TCPACHIP.LOG
C:\temp-If you are using Norton or Symantec Antivirus 2004 or
2005 the default.doc
C:\temp-virtual memory 020406.doc
C:\temp-VolumeC.txt
C:\temp.doc
C:\temp.jpg
C:\Temporary back Up File Test.doc
C:\TGBC____.TTF
SH C:\Thumbs.db
C:\VolumeC-020406.txt
C:\VolumeC.txt
C:\VolumeC_011506.txt
A C:\VolumeC_031306.txt
C:\VolumeC_050705.txt

The pagefuile.sys has to be created somewhere. Windows will NOT work at all
if it cannot be created somewhere. That is just the way it is. OK you can
see the boot.ini on the root. That means you have enabled "seeing" system
and hidden files correctly. I want you to go to the root of each of your
drives do this and paste back here the results of each file you will make.
Do not worry about the size they should not be too big. Let us do this on C
first and if you have other drives I want you to do the same thing on each.

Start | Run | cmd | cd\ | attrib > contentsc.txt <ENTER>

When you want to do this on D drive say like this:

Start | Run | cmd | d: | cd\ | attrib > contentsd.txt <ENTER>

Now do this for each drive changing the name of the txt file contentsc.txt,
contentsd.txt,... and so on. Do not do this on your CD-ROM\DVD or floppy
drive but do do it on any External drive if you are using one.

Open each of these txt files in Notepad | Edit | Select All | Copy

and in your response:

Edit | Paste.

And send it off back here.

--

George Hester
_________________________________

Sorry for the fog. Boot.ini is in c:\. No pagefile.sys anywhere.

All
boxes

are checked on the Everyone group. As you already surmised, reveal of
properties for the C drive shows it as an NTFS file system. I'm at a loss.

:

OK I do not know why you are doing this C:\root. What you mean is

the
root

C: I hope. Not a folder on C drive called root. Again where is your
boot.ini? If you do not see it then you have not enabled viewing all files
correctly like I suggested you do earlier. Or you are not using NTFS

but
if

you can set permissions you must be.

There is no need to have a seperate permissions set for the System account
on the root. The Everyone Group is sufficient with Full NTFS permissions -
Everything checked allow Full Control | Modify... and so on.

Nothing
else.

--

George Hester
_________________________________
Hello, George...

Thanks for riding along.

Agree that there's a permissions problem. Have gone into

properties
for

the
c:\ root and killed all permission groups except Everyone Group and
System.
Am still not getting apagefile.sys file created. I can make

changes
all

day
long in the GUI or registry, and they'll save, but no file is

created.
No

pagefile.sys exists, although boot.ini does reside in the c:\ root.

All permission options are checked for both Everyone and System.

BTW, have uninstalled and reinstalled Norton AV 2005. Am having a problem
there with Liveupdatehandling properly.

Am beginning to wonder if I have a partial SP-2 installation

problem.
I'm

running out of things to do to allow Windows to write the pagefile.sys.

Blake


:

The issue is a NTFS Permissions problem. You still should have a 25MB
pagefile.sys somewhere most likely in C:\Windows but it should

be on
the

root C:.

You had said this, " Believe all permissions are properly set for
both
the Administrator and my own user account..." There should be nothing
more
or less than the Everyone Group having Full NTFS permssions on

the
root

C:
And you must set those permissions using the Admin account. Is your
boot.ini also on the root C:?

--

George Hester
_________________________________
"Everyone" is set for full permission. All settings are continuing to
register (I can see them on the virtual memory page accessed

by
using

control
sysdm.cpl or going to the Registry and viewing the setting under
"Memory
Management") But no pagefile.sys is apparently being created.

I can't believe I'm the only person who has followed all the
directions
and
not been able to get pagefile to work <G!>.

I started to install SP2 and believe I stopped it before it actually
installed (got cold feet about the quality of my backup at the time).
Could
this be a part of the problem? Seems likely not.

Interestingly, I also cannot rollback and use any previous restore
point --
that was one of my earlier attempts at solving the problem. The
system
says
it can't be done and that no changes have been made.

:

The article says this at the end:

However, the Everyone group includes the System account. Removing
the
Everyone group without adding the System account as an individual
account
renders the paging file unusable

You need to make sure that Everyone has FULL permissions on

the
Root

of
the
drive where pagefile.sys resides. Everyone does not mean everyone
in
the
world. What it means is Everyone that has permissions to log into
the
system. Set the NTFS permissions on the Root to haveFULL permissions
and
do
not reset the permissions to propagate to all subfolders subobjects.

--

George Hester
_________________________________
Have read a number of posts about pagefile.sys problems,

and
been

through
<much, most?> of the excellent aumha.org content, the Microsoft
Knowledge
Base and this user group, and am still baffled.

I can reset the min./max. size of the pagefile in either

the
GUI

panel
or
in
the registry. In either case, it shows the changes as

having
been

accepted,
but I continue to get the missing pagefile error message when
restarting
XP.> > > Believe all permissions are properly set for both the
Administrator and my
own user account, following instructions in the XP KB file
(315270).
I have tried to make the change in both the Administrator

and
user

account

One other rub -- I cannot find pagefile.sys in the C:\ (root)
directory,
even though that's where the system says the pagefile is located.
I
have
set folder options to show hidden files/folders and to not hide
protected
files.



I believe the fact I can't see a pagefile.sys is a

critical
part

of
the
story. Am running under SP-1, Symantec is disabled (for now).

Any thoughts?

 

[Guest]

Hi, George...

Believe it or not, I just did a search of the c:\drive and sub-directories,
including hidden/system files, and got no result for page*.sys.

Keyboard.sys, himem.sys, ansi.sys and 15 other system files reside in
c:\windows/system, but no pagefile.sys. Even klooked in Nortion AV
quarantine, but didn't see anything.

Based on initial error message upon initial program load, Windows is
creating a minimum pagefile, so agree that I should be able to find it.
Also, I get subsequent messages occasionally, saying that Windows is
increasing pagefile size to accommodate demand.

I can teel you that XP Pro is working, although way under performance.
Only other place at all possible for the file is a hidden cab file drive that
supports OS restoration (so much for the good old days of CD distribution)

What about if I copied pagefile.sys from another XP machine and put in C:\?

Sorry man this is not possible. There has to be a pagefile.sys somewhere if
not on the root maybe in C:\Windows. Has to be. Windows XP cannot run
without at least a ~24MB pagefile.sys. Can you see other sys files? Look
in C:\Windows\system32. Look for keyboard.sys. You also might try
searching from the root for *.sys and see if it shows up. You should have a
pagefile.sys that is approximately size = 1.5*(Installed RAM).

--

George Hester
_________________________________

Hi, George...

Hope you haven't stopped following this thread -- before catching your most
recent <!> reply, I got waylaid on some other activities and couldn't/didn't
find time to come back to this vexing problem.

What follows the the dump of C, as instructed. I have no other fixed drives
. Note the lack of pagesile.sys.

Blake

C:\091504 tax calcs.txt
C:\091504 tax calcs.xls
C:\1230docs-_and_qb_and_qkn_KML.bkf
C:\1H2005.TXT
C:\1H2005.xls
C:\AIBM_ALM.DBG
H C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
C:\backup05.log
SHR C:\BOOT.INI
H C:\BOOTLOG.PRV
H C:\BOOTLOG.TXT
SH C:\BOOTSECT.DOS
H C:\CONFIG.SYS
A C:\contentsc.txt
C:\drivez.log
C:\Eating Disorders - Nutritional Considerations.ppt
C:\first_CY_2005.TXT
C:\first_CY_2005.xls
C:\hcwclear.txt
A SH C:\hiberfil.sys
H C:\IO.SYS
C:\LOGFILE.txt
C:\MDacLog.txt
SHR C:\MSDOS.SYS
C:\navigator.xml
C:\Normal.dot
SHR C:\NTDETECT.COM
SHR C:\ntldr
C:\P&P Open Balance 032205.TXT
C:\Pembroke Case Study v1.1 DRAFT.doc
C:\Rescued document.txt
C:\response to xp problem 021106.doc
C:\Shortcut to IBM_PRELOAD (C).lnk
C:\SYSLEVEL.IBM
C:\TCPACHIP.LOG
C:\temp-If you are using Norton or Symantec Antivirus 2004 or
2005 the default.doc
C:\temp-virtual memory 020406.doc
C:\temp-VolumeC.txt
C:\temp.doc
C:\temp.jpg
C:\Temporary back Up File Test.doc
C:\TGBC____.TTF
SH C:\Thumbs.db
C:\VolumeC-020406.txt
C:\VolumeC.txt
C:\VolumeC_011506.txt
A C:\VolumeC_031306.txt
C:\VolumeC_050705.txt

The pagefuile.sys has to be created somewhere. Windows will NOT work at all
if it cannot be created somewhere. That is just the way it is. OK you can
see the boot.ini on the root. That means you have enabled "seeing" system
and hidden files correctly. I want you to go to the root of each of your
drives do this and paste back here the results of each file you will make.
Do not worry about the size they should not be too big. Let us do this on C
first and if you have other drives I want you to do the same thing on each.

Start | Run | cmd | cd\ | attrib > contentsc.txt <ENTER>

When you want to do this on D drive say like this:

Start | Run | cmd | d: | cd\ | attrib > contentsd.txt <ENTER>

Now do this for each drive changing the name of the txt file contentsc.txt,
contentsd.txt,... and so on. Do not do this on your CD-ROM\DVD or floppy
drive but do do it on any External drive if you are using one.

Open each of these txt files in Notepad | Edit | Select All | Copy

and in your response:

Edit | Paste.

And send it off back here.

--

George Hester
_________________________________
Sorry for the fog. Boot.ini is in c:\. No pagefile.sys anywhere. All
boxes
are checked on the Everyone group. As you already surmised, reveal of
properties for the C drive shows it as an NTFS file system. I'm at a
loss.

:

OK I do not know why you are doing this C:\root. What you mean is the
root
C: I hope. Not a folder on C drive called root. Again where is your
boot.ini? If you do not see it then you have not enabled viewing all
files
correctly like I suggested you do earlier. Or you are not using NTFS but
if
you can set permissions you must be.

There is no need to have a seperate permissions set for the System
account
on the root. The Everyone Group is sufficient with Full NTFS
permissions -
Everything checked allow Full Control | Modify... and so on. Nothing
else.

--

George Hester
_________________________________
Hello, George...

Thanks for riding along.

Agree that there's a permissions problem. Have gone into properties
for
the
c:\ root and killed all permission groups except Everyone Group and
System.
Am still not getting apagefile.sys file created. I can make changes
all
day
long in the GUI or registry, and they'll save, but no file is created.
No
pagefile.sys exists, although boot.ini does reside in the c:\ root.

All permission options are checked for both Everyone and System.

BTW, have uninstalled and reinstalled Norton AV 2005. Am having a
problem
there with Liveupdatehandling properly.

Am beginning to wonder if I have a partial SP-2 installation problem.
I'm
running out of things to do to allow Windows to write the
pagefile.sys.

Blake


:

The issue is a NTFS Permissions problem. You still should have a
25MB
pagefile.sys somewhere most likely in C:\Windows but it should be on
the
root C:.

You had said this, " Believe all permissions are properly set for
both
the Administrator and my own user account..." There should be
nothing
more
or less than the Everyone Group having Full NTFS permssions on the
root
C:
And you must set those permissions using the Admin account. Is your
boot.ini also on the root C:?

--

George Hester
_________________________________
"Everyone" is set for full permission. All settings are
continuing to
register (I can see them on the virtual memory page accessed by
using
control
sysdm.cpl or going to the Registry and viewing the setting under
"Memory
Management") But no pagefile.sys is apparently being created.

I can't believe I'm the only person who has followed all the
directions
and
not been able to get pagefile to work <G!>.

I started to install SP2 and believe I stopped it before it
actually
installed (got cold feet about the quality of my backup at the
time).
Could
this be a part of the problem? Seems likely not.

Interestingly, I also cannot rollback and use any previous restore
point --
that was one of my earlier attempts at solving the problem. The
system
says
it can't be done and that no changes have been made.

:

The article says this at the end:

However, the Everyone group includes the System account.
Removing
the
Everyone group without adding the System account as an
individual
account
renders the paging file unusable

You need to make sure that Everyone has FULL permissions on the
Root
of
the
drive where pagefile.sys resides. Everyone does not mean
everyone
in
the
world. What it means is Everyone that has permissions to log
into
the
system. Set the NTFS permissions on the Root to haveFULL
permissions
and
do
not reset the permissions to propagate to all subfolders
subobjects.

--

George Hester
_________________________________
Have read a number of posts about pagefile.sys problems, and
been
through
<much, most?> of the excellent aumha.org content, the
Microsoft
Knowledge
Base and this user group, and am still baffled.

I can reset the min./max. size of the pagefile in either

the

 

[ANONYMOUS]

It is located in C:\

Cut the crap and use Windows Explorer and make sure you have set it to
how hidden and systems files by going to:

Tools, Folder Options, VIEW [tab]

Hide protected Operating systems Files [untick this] so you can see it.

Also, Show hidden files and folders.

hth

Hi, George...

Believe it or not, I just did a search of the c:\drive and sub-directories,
including hidden/system files, and got no result for page*.sys.

Keyboard.sys, himem.sys, ansi.sys and 15 other system files reside in
c:\windows/system, but no pagefile.sys. Even klooked in Nortion AV
quarantine, but didn't see anything.

Based on initial error message upon initial program load, Windows is
creating a minimum pagefile, so agree that I should be able to find it.
Also, I get subsequent messages occasionally, saying that Windows is
increasing pagefile size to accommodate demand.

I can teel you that XP Pro is working, although way under performance.
Only other place at all possible for the file is a hidden cab file drive that
supports OS restoration (so much for the good old days of CD distribution)

What about if I copied pagefile.sys from another XP machine and put in C:\?

Sorry man this is not possible. There has to be a pagefile.sys somewhere if
not on the root maybe in C:\Windows. Has to be. Windows XP cannot run
without at least a ~24MB pagefile.sys. Can you see other sys files? Look
in C:\Windows\system32. Look for keyboard.sys. You also might try
searching from the root for *.sys and see if it shows up. You should have a
pagefile.sys that is approximately size = 1.5*(Installed RAM).

--

George Hester
_________________________________

Hi, George...

Hope you haven't stopped following this thread -- before catching your most
recent <!> reply, I got waylaid on some other activities and couldn't/didn't
find time to come back to this vexing problem.

What follows the the dump of C, as instructed. I have no other fixed drives
. Note the lack of pagesile.sys.

Blake

C:\091504 tax calcs.txt
C:\091504 tax calcs.xls
C:\1230docs-_and_qb_and_qkn_KML.bkf
C:\1H2005.TXT
C:\1H2005.xls
C:\AIBM_ALM.DBG
H C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
C:\backup05.log
SHR C:\BOOT.INI
H C:\BOOTLOG.PRV
H C:\BOOTLOG.TXT
SH C:\BOOTSECT.DOS
H C:\CONFIG.SYS
A C:\contentsc.txt
C:\drivez.log
C:\Eating Disorders - Nutritional Considerations.ppt
C:\first_CY_2005.TXT
C:\first_CY_2005.xls
C:\hcwclear.txt
A SH C:\hiberfil.sys
H C:\IO.SYS
C:\LOGFILE.txt
C:\MDacLog.txt
SHR C:\MSDOS.SYS
C:\navigator.xml
C:\Normal.dot
SHR C:\NTDETECT.COM
SHR C:\ntldr
C:\P&P Open Balance 032205.TXT
C:\Pembroke Case Study v1.1 DRAFT.doc
C:\Rescued document.txt
C:\response to xp problem 021106.doc
C:\Shortcut to IBM_PRELOAD (C).lnk
C:\SYSLEVEL.IBM
C:\TCPACHIP.LOG
C:\temp-If you are using Norton or Symantec Antivirus 2004 or
2005 the default.doc
C:\temp-virtual memory 020406.doc
C:\temp-VolumeC.txt
C:\temp.doc
C:\temp.jpg
C:\Temporary back Up File Test.doc
C:\TGBC____.TTF
SH C:\Thumbs.db
C:\VolumeC-020406.txt
C:\VolumeC.txt
C:\VolumeC_011506.txt
A C:\VolumeC_031306.txt
C:\VolumeC_050705.txt


:

The pagefuile.sys has to be created somewhere. Windows will NOT work at all
if it cannot be created somewhere. That is just the way it is. OK you can
see the boot.ini on the root. That means you have enabled "seeing" system
and hidden files correctly. I want you to go to the root of each of your
drives do this and paste back here the results of each file you will make.
Do not worry about the size they should not be too big. Let us do this on C
first and if you have other drives I want you to do the same thing on each.

Start | Run | cmd | cd\ | attrib > contentsc.txt <ENTER>

When you want to do this on D drive say like this:

Start | Run | cmd | d: | cd\ | attrib > contentsd.txt <ENTER>

Now do this for each drive changing the name of the txt file contentsc.txt,
contentsd.txt,... and so on. Do not do this on your CD-ROM\DVD or floppy
drive but do do it on any External drive if you are using one.

Open each of these txt files in Notepad | Edit | Select All | Copy

and in your response:

Edit | Paste.

And send it off back here.

--

George Hester
_________________________________
Sorry for the fog. Boot.ini is in c:\. No pagefile.sys anywhere. All
boxes
are checked on the Everyone group. As you already surmised, reveal of
properties for the C drive shows it as an NTFS file system. I'm at a
loss.

:

OK I do not know why you are doing this C:\root. What you mean is the
root
C: I hope. Not a folder on C drive called root. Again where is your
boot.ini? If you do not see it then you have not enabled viewing all
files
correctly like I suggested you do earlier. Or you are not using NTFS but
if
you can set permissions you must be.

There is no need to have a seperate permissions set for the System
account
on the root. The Everyone Group is sufficient with Full NTFS
permissions -
Everything checked allow Full Control | Modify... and so on. Nothing
else.

--

George Hester
_________________________________
Hello, George...

Thanks for riding along.

Agree that there's a permissions problem. Have gone into properties
for
the
c:\ root and killed all permission groups except Everyone Group and
System.
Am still not getting apagefile.sys file created. I can make changes
all
day
long in the GUI or registry, and they'll save, but no file is created.
No
pagefile.sys exists, although boot.ini does reside in the c:\ root.

All permission options are checked for both Everyone and System.

BTW, have uninstalled and reinstalled Norton AV 2005. Am having a
problem
there with Liveupdatehandling properly.

Am beginning to wonder if I have a partial SP-2 installation problem.
I'm
running out of things to do to allow Windows to write the
pagefile.sys.

Blake


:

The issue is a NTFS Permissions problem. You still should have a
25MB
pagefile.sys somewhere most likely in C:\Windows but it should be on
the
root C:.

You had said this, " Believe all permissions are properly set for
both
the Administrator and my own user account..." There should be
nothing
more
or less than the Everyone Group having Full NTFS permssions on the
root
C:
And you must set those permissions using the Admin account. Is your
boot.ini also on the root C:?

--

George Hester
_________________________________
"Everyone" is set for full permission. All settings are
continuing to
register (I can see them on the virtual memory page accessed by
using
control
sysdm.cpl or going to the Registry and viewing the setting under
"Memory
Management") But no pagefile.sys is apparently being created.

I can't believe I'm the only person who has followed all the
directions
and
not been able to get pagefile to work <G!>.

I started to install SP2 and believe I stopped it before it
actually
installed (got cold feet about the quality of my backup at the
time).
Could
this be a part of the problem? Seems likely not.

Interestingly, I also cannot rollback and use any previous restore
point --
that was one of my earlier attempts at solving the problem. The
system
says
it can't be done and that no changes have been made.

:

The article says this at the end:

However, the Everyone group includes the System account.
Removing
the
Everyone group without adding the System account as an
individual
account
renders the paging file unusable

You need to make sure that Everyone has FULL permissions on the
Root
of
the
drive where pagefile.sys resides. Everyone does not mean
everyone
in
the
world. What it means is Everyone that has permissions to log
into
the
system. Set the NTFS permissions on the Root to haveFULL
permissions
and
do
not reset the permissions to propagate to all subfolders
subobjects.

--

George Hester
_________________________________
Have read a number of posts about pagefile.sys problems, and
been
through
<much, most?> of the excellent aumha.org content, the
Microsoft
Knowledge
Base and this user group, and am still baffled.

I can reset the min./max. size of the pagefile in either

the

 

[Guest]

Did it (again). it's not there.

It is located in C:\

Cut the crap and use Windows Explorer and make sure you have set it to
how hidden and systems files by going to:

Tools, Folder Options, VIEW [tab]

Hide protected Operating systems Files [untick this] so you can see it.

Also, Show hidden files and folders.

hth

Hi, George...

Believe it or not, I just did a search of the c:\drive and sub-directories,
including hidden/system files, and got no result for page*.sys.

Keyboard.sys, himem.sys, ansi.sys and 15 other system files reside in
c:\windows/system, but no pagefile.sys. Even klooked in Nortion AV
quarantine, but didn't see anything.

Based on initial error message upon initial program load, Windows is
creating a minimum pagefile, so agree that I should be able to find it.
Also, I get subsequent messages occasionally, saying that Windows is
increasing pagefile size to accommodate demand.

I can teel you that XP Pro is working, although way under performance.
Only other place at all possible for the file is a hidden cab file drive that
supports OS restoration (so much for the good old days of CD distribution)

What about if I copied pagefile.sys from another XP machine and put in C:\?

Sorry man this is not possible. There has to be a pagefile.sys somewhere if
not on the root maybe in C:\Windows. Has to be. Windows XP cannot run
without at least a ~24MB pagefile.sys. Can you see other sys files? Look
in C:\Windows\system32. Look for keyboard.sys. You also might try
searching from the root for *.sys and see if it shows up. You should have a
pagefile.sys that is approximately size = 1.5*(Installed RAM).

--

George Hester
_________________________________
Hi, George...

Hope you haven't stopped following this thread -- before catching your
most
recent <!> reply, I got waylaid on some other activities and
couldn't/didn't
find time to come back to this vexing problem.

What follows the the dump of C, as instructed. I have no other fixed
drives
. Note the lack of pagesile.sys.

Blake

C:\091504 tax calcs.txt
C:\091504 tax calcs.xls
C:\1230docs-_and_qb_and_qkn_KML.bkf
C:\1H2005.TXT
C:\1H2005.xls
C:\AIBM_ALM.DBG
H C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
C:\backup05.log
SHR C:\BOOT.INI
H C:\BOOTLOG.PRV
H C:\BOOTLOG.TXT
SH C:\BOOTSECT.DOS
H C:\CONFIG.SYS
A C:\contentsc.txt
C:\drivez.log
C:\Eating Disorders - Nutritional Considerations.ppt
C:\first_CY_2005.TXT
C:\first_CY_2005.xls
C:\hcwclear.txt
A SH C:\hiberfil.sys
H C:\IO.SYS
C:\LOGFILE.txt
C:\MDacLog.txt
SHR C:\MSDOS.SYS
C:\navigator.xml
C:\Normal.dot
SHR C:\NTDETECT.COM
SHR C:\ntldr
C:\P&P Open Balance 032205.TXT
C:\Pembroke Case Study v1.1 DRAFT.doc
C:\Rescued document.txt
C:\response to xp problem 021106.doc
C:\Shortcut to IBM_PRELOAD (C).lnk
C:\SYSLEVEL.IBM
C:\TCPACHIP.LOG
C:\temp-If you are using Norton or Symantec Antivirus 2004 or
2005 the default.doc
C:\temp-virtual memory 020406.doc
C:\temp-VolumeC.txt
C:\temp.doc
C:\temp.jpg
C:\Temporary back Up File Test.doc
C:\TGBC____.TTF
SH C:\Thumbs.db
C:\VolumeC-020406.txt
C:\VolumeC.txt
C:\VolumeC_011506.txt
A C:\VolumeC_031306.txt
C:\VolumeC_050705.txt


:

The pagefuile.sys has to be created somewhere. Windows will NOT work at
all
if it cannot be created somewhere. That is just the way it is. OK you
can
see the boot.ini on the root. That means you have enabled "seeing"
system
and hidden files correctly. I want you to go to the root of each of
your
drives do this and paste back here the results of each file you will
make.
Do not worry about the size they should not be too big. Let us do this
on C
first and if you have other drives I want you to do the same thing on
each.

Start | Run | cmd | cd\ | attrib > contentsc.txt <ENTER>

When you want to do this on D drive say like this:

Start | Run | cmd | d: | cd\ | attrib > contentsd.txt <ENTER>

Now do this for each drive changing the name of the txt file
contentsc.txt,
contentsd.txt,... and so on. Do not do this on your CD-ROM\DVD or
floppy
drive but do do it on any External drive if you are using one.

Open each of these txt files in Notepad | Edit | Select All | Copy

and in your response:

Edit | Paste.

And send it off back here.

--

George Hester
_________________________________
Sorry for the fog. Boot.ini is in c:\. No pagefile.sys anywhere.
All
boxes
are checked on the Everyone group. As you already surmised, reveal of
properties for the C drive shows it as an NTFS file system. I'm at a
loss.

:

OK I do not know why you are doing this C:\root. What you mean is
the
root
C: I hope. Not a folder on C drive called root. Again where is your
boot.ini? If you do not see it then you have not enabled viewing all
files
correctly like I suggested you do earlier. Or you are not using NTFS
but
if
you can set permissions you must be.

There is no need to have a seperate permissions set for the System
account
on the root. The Everyone Group is sufficient with Full NTFS
permissions -
Everything checked allow Full Control | Modify... and so on.
Nothing
else.

--

George Hester
_________________________________
Hello, George...

Thanks for riding along.

Agree that there's a permissions problem. Have gone into
properties
for
the
c:\ root and killed all permission groups except Everyone Group
and
System.
Am still not getting apagefile.sys file created. I can make
changes
all
day
long in the GUI or registry, and they'll save, but no file is
created.
No
pagefile.sys exists, although boot.ini does reside in the c:\
root.

All permission options are checked for both Everyone and System.

BTW, have uninstalled and reinstalled Norton AV 2005. Am having a
problem
there with Liveupdatehandling properly.

Am beginning to wonder if I have a partial SP-2 installation
problem.
I'm
running out of things to do to allow Windows to write the
pagefile.sys.

Blake


:

The issue is a NTFS Permissions problem. You still should have a
25MB
pagefile.sys somewhere most likely in C:\Windows but it should
be on
the
root C:.

You had said this, " Believe all permissions are properly set
for
both
the Administrator and my own user account..." There should be
nothing
more
or less than the Everyone Group having Full NTFS permssions on
the
root
C:
And you must set those permissions using the Admin account. Is
your
boot.ini also on the root C:?

--

George Hester
_________________________________
"Everyone" is set for full permission. All settings are
continuing to
register (I can see them on the virtual memory page accessed
by
using
control
sysdm.cpl or going to the Registry and viewing the setting
under
"Memory
Management") But no pagefile.sys is apparently being created.

I can't believe I'm the only person who has followed all the
directions
and
not been able to get pagefile to work <G!>.

I started to install SP2 and believe I stopped it before it
actually
installed (got cold feet about the quality of my backup at the
time).
Could
this be a part of the problem? Seems likely not.

Interestingly, I also cannot rollback and use any previous
restore
point --
that was one of my earlier attempts at solving the problem.
The
system
says
it can't be done and that no changes have been made.

:

The article says this at the end:

However, the Everyone group includes the System account.
Removing
the
Everyone group without adding the System account as an
individual

 

[Guest]

Did you ever sort this out as I am having same problem. Can see hidden files
but now pagefile.sys or temppf.sys as sugested in other posts.
Searched C:\ several times.

Did it (again). it's not there.

It is located in C:\

Cut the crap and use Windows Explorer and make sure you have set it to
how hidden and systems files by going to:

Tools, Folder Options, VIEW [tab]

Hide protected Operating systems Files [untick this] so you can see it.

Also, Show hidden files and folders.

hth

Hi, George...

Believe it or not, I just did a search of the c:\drive and sub-directories,
including hidden/system files, and got no result for page*.sys.

Keyboard.sys, himem.sys, ansi.sys and 15 other system files reside in
c:\windows/system, but no pagefile.sys. Even klooked in Nortion AV
quarantine, but didn't see anything.

Based on initial error message upon initial program load, Windows is
creating a minimum pagefile, so agree that I should be able to find it.
Also, I get subsequent messages occasionally, saying that Windows is
increasing pagefile size to accommodate demand.

I can teel you that XP Pro is working, although way under performance.
Only other place at all possible for the file is a hidden cab file drive that
supports OS restoration (so much for the good old days of CD distribution)

What about if I copied pagefile.sys from another XP machine and put in C:\?

:

Sorry man this is not possible. There has to be a pagefile.sys somewhere if
not on the root maybe in C:\Windows. Has to be. Windows XP cannot run
without at least a ~24MB pagefile.sys. Can you see other sys files? Look
in C:\Windows\system32. Look for keyboard.sys. You also might try
searching from the root for *.sys and see if it shows up. You should have a
pagefile.sys that is approximately size = 1.5*(Installed RAM).

--

George Hester
_________________________________
Hi, George...

Hope you haven't stopped following this thread -- before catching your
most
recent <!> reply, I got waylaid on some other activities and
couldn't/didn't
find time to come back to this vexing problem.

What follows the the dump of C, as instructed. I have no other fixed
drives
. Note the lack of pagesile.sys.

Blake

C:\091504 tax calcs.txt
C:\091504 tax calcs.xls
C:\1230docs-_and_qb_and_qkn_KML.bkf
C:\1H2005.TXT
C:\1H2005.xls
C:\AIBM_ALM.DBG
H C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
C:\backup05.log
SHR C:\BOOT.INI
H C:\BOOTLOG.PRV
H C:\BOOTLOG.TXT
SH C:\BOOTSECT.DOS
H C:\CONFIG.SYS
A C:\contentsc.txt
C:\drivez.log
C:\Eating Disorders - Nutritional Considerations.ppt
C:\first_CY_2005.TXT
C:\first_CY_2005.xls
C:\hcwclear.txt
A SH C:\hiberfil.sys
H C:\IO.SYS
C:\LOGFILE.txt
C:\MDacLog.txt
SHR C:\MSDOS.SYS
C:\navigator.xml
C:\Normal.dot
SHR C:\NTDETECT.COM
SHR C:\ntldr
C:\P&P Open Balance 032205.TXT
C:\Pembroke Case Study v1.1 DRAFT.doc
C:\Rescued document.txt
C:\response to xp problem 021106.doc
C:\Shortcut to IBM_PRELOAD (C).lnk
C:\SYSLEVEL.IBM
C:\TCPACHIP.LOG
C:\temp-If you are using Norton or Symantec Antivirus 2004 or
2005 the default.doc
C:\temp-virtual memory 020406.doc
C:\temp-VolumeC.txt
C:\temp.doc
C:\temp.jpg
C:\Temporary back Up File Test.doc
C:\TGBC____.TTF
SH C:\Thumbs.db
C:\VolumeC-020406.txt
C:\VolumeC.txt
C:\VolumeC_011506.txt
A C:\VolumeC_031306.txt
C:\VolumeC_050705.txt


:

The pagefuile.sys has to be created somewhere. Windows will NOT work at
all
if it cannot be created somewhere. That is just the way it is. OK you
can
see the boot.ini on the root. That means you have enabled "seeing"
system
and hidden files correctly. I want you to go to the root of each of
your
drives do this and paste back here the results of each file you will
make.
Do not worry about the size they should not be too big. Let us do this
on C
first and if you have other drives I want you to do the same thing on
each.

Start | Run | cmd | cd\ | attrib > contentsc.txt <ENTER>

When you want to do this on D drive say like this:

Start | Run | cmd | d: | cd\ | attrib > contentsd.txt <ENTER>

Now do this for each drive changing the name of the txt file
contentsc.txt,
contentsd.txt,... and so on. Do not do this on your CD-ROM\DVD or
floppy
drive but do do it on any External drive if you are using one.

Open each of these txt files in Notepad | Edit | Select All | Copy

and in your response:

Edit | Paste.

And send it off back here.

--

George Hester
_________________________________
Sorry for the fog. Boot.ini is in c:\. No pagefile.sys anywhere.
All
boxes
are checked on the Everyone group. As you already surmised, reveal of
properties for the C drive shows it as an NTFS file system. I'm at a
loss.

:

OK I do not know why you are doing this C:\root. What you mean is
the
root
C: I hope. Not a folder on C drive called root. Again where is your
boot.ini? If you do not see it then you have not enabled viewing all
files
correctly like I suggested you do earlier. Or you are not using NTFS
but
if
you can set permissions you must be.

There is no need to have a seperate permissions set for the System
account
on the root. The Everyone Group is sufficient with Full NTFS
permissions -
Everything checked allow Full Control | Modify... and so on.
Nothing
else.

--

George Hester
_________________________________
Hello, George...

Thanks for riding along.

Agree that there's a permissions problem. Have gone into
properties
for
the
c:\ root and killed all permission groups except Everyone Group
and
System.
Am still not getting apagefile.sys file created. I can make
changes
all
day
long in the GUI or registry, and they'll save, but no file is
created.
No
pagefile.sys exists, although boot.ini does reside in the c:\
root.

All permission options are checked for both Everyone and System.

BTW, have uninstalled and reinstalled Norton AV 2005. Am having a
problem
there with Liveupdatehandling properly.

Am beginning to wonder if I have a partial SP-2 installation
problem.
I'm
running out of things to do to allow Windows to write the
pagefile.sys.

Blake


:

The issue is a NTFS Permissions problem. You still should have a
25MB
pagefile.sys somewhere most likely in C:\Windows but it should
be on
the
root C:.

You had said this, " Believe all permissions are properly set
for
both
the Administrator and my own user account..." There should be
nothing
more
or less than the Everyone Group having Full NTFS permssions on
the
root
C:
And you must set those permissions using the Admin account. Is
your
boot.ini also on the root C:?

--

George Hester
_________________________________
"Everyone" is set for full permission. All settings are
continuing to
register (I can see them on the virtual memory page accessed
by
using
control
sysdm.cpl or going to the Registry and viewing the setting
under
"Memory
Management") But no pagefile.sys is apparently being created.

I can't believe I'm the only person who has followed all the
directions
and
not been able to get pagefile to work <G!>.

I started to install SP2 and believe I stopped it before it
actually
installed (got cold feet about the quality of my backup at the
time).
Could
this be a part of the problem? Seems likely not.

Interestingly, I also cannot rollback and use any previous
restore
point --
that was one of my earlier attempts at solving the problem.
The
system
says
it can't be done and that no changes have been made.

:

The article says this at the end: