Linux is ok, since its free, but how about a OS that saves you money?

[Juzme]

Have you tried Ubuntu? Installed it last weekend, my first distro other
than Linspire/Lindows which is a cash cow even worse that Windows in the
long run. While it took some tweaking, no more than I have had to do with
XP Home to get it the way I wanted it to function. I think that it is
much quicker and the desktop is more functional. Yes, there are
disadvantages, but to each their own. Its made me a convert (at least for
now). Probably the only things I will miss from windows programs are MS
Money and Google Earth.

Gregg

Check out gnucash

 

[Donald]

About umm the time when redhat came out.
Anyway point taken Gordon

 

[Mitch]

If you look further into the mechanisms that made this possible

you will see that windows was the OS responsible for this.

Windows was the OS that let people of all kinds to start using computers in
an everyday basis.

Wrong -- a growing computer industry is what did that. Windows became
popular, but it wasn't using Windows that drew people, it was using
computers.

Windows was the OS that changed computers from a thing only
super geeks that had gone to 5 years to learn how to program, to a thing any
person could do, even a child. Childsplay!

Wrong -- the dvelopment of the entire industry has contirbuted to this,
not particularly Microsoft or Windows. They have been very successful
and very visible, but they didn't do most of it, and some would say
they did very very little of the real development at all.

Windows was the OS that changed the whole market for software and hardware,
created new opportunities, new hardware innovations, new technologies, and
the expansion of the internet to what we have now.

Wrong, entirely wrong -- IBM created the industry when they opened the
hardware architecture and gave influence to Microsoft. IBM created the
opportunities, _everyone_ but Microsoft created hardware innovations
and new technologies. And Microsoft was just about the very last
company to embrace the Internet at any level -- they certainly haven't
done anything especially unique about it, and Windows gets no credit
for any of it!

Thousands went to study computer programming because of windows.

Not because of the growing computer industry? Not because of the
usefulness of computer hardware and the applications? Nonsense.

Thousands of jobs where created to fuel the windows and computer revolution.

You have that backward -- jobs are not created in order to make the
industry grow faster. Jobs are created because computers (not
necessarily Windows) become more useful to some task.
Now, you could certainly say that Microsoft has done things to create
new jobs dealing with the problems of having computers, especially with
the problems created by Windows.

Thousands of computers were installed in businesses, homes, schools and
everyone started using them.

Again, not because of Windows, but because of computers.

Windows created all this foundation that we have today.

Windows _created_ none of it -- Windows is riding the same wave that
did those things. The growing computer industry is the wave.

Linux now stepped on that foundation of cheap computers, the expanded
internet, and computer literate community
and used that to try to develop a user friendly version of its OS.

So? Are you suggesting that it shouldn't be allowed entry? Or that new
products or ideas shouldn't be allowed entry? Or is it that you think
it is new (it's been around for years).

THIS HAS NOT BEEN ACCOMPLISHED even to this day.

Interesting. You're giving so much credit to Windows when much of the
industry has not considered it user-friendly until the last couple
versions. Many Linux packages are CERTAINLY as user-friendly as Win98.

As any logical person would observe, it is stealing resources from the
windows platform.

Stealing resources? How can it possibly be doing this?
Because some customers don't buy into Windows? or because there are so
few programmers for Windows development? Maybe you mean Microsoft
doesn't have any money to create new features?

Not to say that most of its programs
are developed like clones or rip-offs of windows applications.

Now THAT'S funny. Windows is the victim, huh? Not all the applications
developers, not the patent holders, not the people doing the actual
development work -- it's Microsoft that is being hurt, because there is
development in computers that isn't under the Windows platform?

If you take everything I said into account, if people had not used windows,
the computers would be more expensive,

.... or some other products would have been developed. Windows has never
make anything cheaper, and cheap products do not exist because of an
OS.

the internet would be smaller,

Nonsense -- nothing on the internet depends on Windows in any way.

less people would be using computers,

Nonsense -- the hardware isn't cheaper because of Windows, applications
aren't easier to use because of Windows, computers didn't become usable
because of Windows.

less people would be designing hardware,

Entirely wrong -- that is ONLY because of the growing industry.

less people would be being educated to be programmers,

Huh? Because Windows exists, there is more education? Silly.

less software would exist.

Software is developed because computers can do a lot, and because the
industry has continued to grow. Neither have anything to do with the
OS.

Practically we would be 10 years behind... and 10
years in computer time is like hundreds of years normal time.

And 10 years in "dog years" would be 70 years. You're trying to say
we'd be behind a hundred years (1880 tech) if we didn't have computers
in 1980?

So if windows made everything cheaper and more accessible, isn't it more
cost efficient for it to exist, than linux?

Even assuming that statement, (which is obviously wrong) then you woul
only have established that it benefits society, not that other
technologies or ideas or development needs to be suppressed or that
they hurt anything at all.

I say that it has a negative cost...

And I hope you can see that is wrong now. Windows is riding the
benefits you are thinking of, not creating them.

In other words if we wanted to have what we have now, with technology that
was 10 years older, the cost would be unbearable, even if it was possible.

Again, you're assuming no other product would be developed, and the
computer industry would never have grown, and that no one but Microsoft
could ever have done something like build an OS. It's utterly stupid.

Having said all that, I know of course that windows was created on top of a
unix prehistory... MS found programmers and ideas from unix.

An interesting point -- if the OS gets credit, why are you ignoring
everything every other OS has contributed? You don't imagine the people
doing the work have ignored them as much as you do?

But you cannot disregard the influence windows had on the advancement of
technologies we have today.

The influence Windows has had is only in restricting new technologies
and usefulness, not in bringing new things to computers. Everyone else
has done that part. Yes, almost everyone EXCEPT Microsoft has been good
at this, and MS/Windows should get jabs and jeers for having restricted
the addition of more technologies, rather than for permitting a few you
know now to be used in it's environment.

Applications make the computer useful, not the OS. The OS does NONE of
that. Hardware makes the computer faster and more flexible -- and
Microsoft has kept itself almost entirely out of hardware development.

 

[Mitch]

Probably the only things I will miss from windows programs are MS
Money and Google Earth.

Google Earth isn't unique; it is built on another product doing the
same thing, and there are at least three free tools offering what
Google Earth does, without the advertising.

Don't give Google credit for this effort; they are also riding someone
else's efforts.

 

[Mitch]

I have to ask ... is it "subjective" because he doesn't happen to be a Linux
fanatic and hate Windows, or is there something I'm missing?.

Call me old fashioned but, I thought an individual' opinion on something was
a good thing .... irrespective of whether that opinion conformed to everyone
else's or not \

An individual's PERSPECTIVE is valuable. His opinions are only valuable
when they are cogent, informed, developed ideas free from prejudice and
applied to useful subjects.
Otherwise, his opinions are a barrier, something to get in the way of
seeing and learning.

 

[Mitch]

I see we have some new doublespeak terms here:

"Trolling" now means expressing one's opinion clearly.

Well, a troll could be very clear and yet still trying to upset others.
And this post from 'kenny' is very clear, but so very very wrong.

"Subjective" now means your opinion is different from mine.

"Objective", now means your opinion is the same as mine.

An old problem with bad rhetoric. People often don't work very hard at
being correct or accurate.

These new definitions should prove useful, especially to the *nix crowd.

Now, _that's_ inflammatory.

 

[Mitch]

Absolute Astrotufing Nonsense!
Mepis, Knoppix etc has all the needed features
and a lot more than windopes has ever accomplished.

Open Konqueror for example, you can have tabbed views, and split views.
You can connect to dozens of machines with a dozen or so protocols
meaning you can ftp, ssh, samba, browse folders,
browse remote folders, have open pdfs,
have open web pages, manual pages, lan browser, printer browser,
audio player, system resources, etc...

Or notepad equivalent like Kwrite comes with text highlighting
in some 20 different programming languages and international fonts
able to open huge files.

There is also oralux livecd that speaks out of the box.
So not only is it free but it saves you money too.

I'm running 15 machines at home on livecds.
Thats saving me huge amounts of money.
I could never invest that sort of money in windope licenses.
But Linux is free, and I'm able to try out
hundreds of livecds and other distros free
http://www.livecdlist.com
I use all those PCs to train myself on making my own
livecds, setting up servers, streaming systems, programming
environment, home entertainment, games machine, security systems,
etc... All the time, I'm learning because I have 100%
access to source code and documentation, and saving loads of money
in getting things working quicker.
The whole ecosystem around GNU/Linux is getting better by the
minute. I bought a 16 page a minute Samsung ML-1610 Linux supported printer
for under $80, and toner for $10.
This printer is available instantly across my network to all PCs
as soon as its switched on. Not like windopes where I would have had to go
around installing drivers on EACH machine for EACH printer.

Of the 20 odd regular applications that I must use in a working day, I am
now only dependent on 1 for windopes. All the others have been replaced
with superior GNU/Linux alternatives. You do have to google
to get all your replacements, but its well worth the effort
as it saves money and you end up with technologically
superior alternatives in most cases that you may not appreciate
already exist and which has hundreds of thousands if not millions
of existing users.

This is a decent contradiction of your claims, 'kenny' -- it is a
specific but not isolated example of how many different things happen
in the industry entirely outside Windows.
And as far as I can see, not one technology noted has ever had anything
to credit either Windows or Microsoft in any way.

 

[fkasner]

***Disclamer*** I am not bashing linux, I am not a troll. I am just writting
an answer to the linux users who make fun of windows users, and some food
for thought for everyone.

A linux advocate downloads linux, installs it on a $500 - $800 powerful
computer, and is happy that you he has a free OS.
Furthermore he goes about making fun of everyone else with windows
computers, calling them stupid.

How blind can a person be?

If you look further into the mechanisms that made this possible
you will see that windows was the OS responsible for this.

Windows was the OS that let people of all kinds to start using computers in
an everyday basis. Windows was the OS that changed computers from a thing
only
super geeks that had gone to 5 years to learn how to program, to a thing any
person could do, even a child. Childsplay!
Windows was the OS that changed the whole market for software and hardware,
created new opportunities, new hardware innovations, new technologies, and
the expansion of the internet to what we have now.

Thousands went to study computer programming because of windows.
Thousands of jobs where created to fuel the windows and computer revolution.
Thousands of computers were installed in businesses, homes, schools and
everyone
started using them.

Windows created all this foundation that we have today.

Linux now stepped on that foundation of cheap computers, the expanded
internet, and computer literate community
and used that to try to develop a user friendly version of its OS. THIS HAS
NOT BEEN ACCOMPLISHED even to this day.
As any logical person would observe, it is stealing resources from the
windows platform. Not to say that most of its programs
are developed like clones or rip-offs of windows applications.

If you take everything I said into account, if people had not used windows,
the computers would be more expensive, the internet would be smaller,
less people would be using computers, less people would be designing
hardware, less people would be being educated to be programmers,
less software would exist. Practically we would be 10 years behind... and 10
years in computer time is like hundreds of years normal time.

So if windows made everything cheaper and more accessible, isn't it more
cost efficient for it to exist, than linux? I say that it has a negative
cost...
meaning that it brings more money in that it takes out and created new
possibilities that would never exist without it.
In other words if we wanted to have what we have now, with technology that
was 10 years older, the cost would be unbearable, even if it was possible.

Having said all that, I know of course that windows was created on top of a
unix prehistory... MS found programmers and ideas from unix.
But you cannot disregard the influence windows had on the advancement of
technologies we have today.

I personally would slap a linux geek on the face if he giggled at me saying
that I was stupid because I used windows.
I would call that disrespect to what enabled him to be in that position.


Kenny.

Nonsene in the extreme. I worked an Apple ][+ computer without an
operating system save on that allowed a disk drive to be used to save
material. Worked quite well. I learned to program on it and didn't need
a university education for that (I did have a Ph.D. in Chemistyr
however.) And found the only advantage of switching to an
Microsoft-Intel setup was a much easier to use wordprocesser which
worked well for writing stuff for use in the classroom. Windows didn't
really make things any easier. Rather it just allowed things to get more
complicated. My spreadsheet on the Apple worked quite well without a
graphical user interface. You are totally wrong about the contribution
that Windows made to advances in ocmputation.
FK

 

[isitcomputing]

***Disclamer*** I am not bashing linux, I am not a troll. I am just writting
an answer to the linux users who make fun of windows users, and some food
for thought for everyone.

A linux advocate downloads linux, installs it on a $500 - $800 powerful
computer, and is happy that you he has a free OS.
Furthermore he goes about making fun of everyone else with windows
computers, calling them stupid.

How blind can a person be?

If you look further into the mechanisms that made this possible
you will see that windows was the OS responsible for this.

Windows was the OS that let people of all kinds to start using computers in
an everyday basis. Windows was the OS that changed computers from a thing
only

#*#*# Apple produced the first point and click interface, Microsoft
managed to steal the tecnology without paying for it, and it was
developed by a woman working for the Zerox corporation and zerox gave
it to Steve jobs as they saw no worth in it.

so maybe Microsoft dominate the market, but only by luck and clever
marketing.

in bill gates words in reply to steve jobs when jobs said

"my product is better"

gates replied

"that doesnt matter"

so maybe a bit of recognition to all those who helped build the
framework for the modern OS.!!! it wasnt just MICROSHAFT and also
Microshaft did not even write the original DOS, it was bought from a
guy who developed it in his gagrage for $50K.

 

[Zitty]

Absolute Astrotufing Nonsense!
Mepis, Knoppix etc has all the needed features

...provided your not wanted to do something like.. hmmm.. video editing, and
provided you can live with inconsistant GUI's that force you to relearn each
and every application because they all do things in a different way...

and a lot more than windopes has ever accomplished.

Open Konqueror for example, you can have tabbed views, and split views.

if you have the patience to wait for it to load (assuming you have the
patience for Linux/KDE to load first that is)

You can connect to dozens of machines with a dozen or so protocols
meaning you can ftp, ssh, samba, browse folders,
browse remote folders, have open pdfs,
have open web pages, manual pages, lan browser, printer browser,
audio player, system resources, etc...

Or notepad equivalent like Kwrite comes with text highlighting
in some 20 different programming languages and international fonts
able to open huge files.

There is also oralux livecd that speaks out of the box.
So not only is it free but it saves you money too.

I'm running 15 machines at home on livecds. All at the same time?
Thats saving me huge amounts of money.

look at your electric bill one day....

I could never invest that sort of money in windope licenses.
But Linux is free, and I'm able to try out
hundreds of livecds and other distros free

"TRY" - yea, I've tried a few myself. I can't say I'm overly impressed.

http://www.livecdlist.com
I use all those PCs to train myself on making my own
livecds, setting up servers, streaming systems, programming
environment, home entertainment, games machine, security systems,
etc...

Nothing useful then?

All the time, I'm learning because I have 100%
access to source code and documentation, and saving loads of money
in getting things working quicker.
The whole ecosystem what?
around GNU/Linux is getting better by the
minute. I bought a 16 page a minute Samsung ML-1610 Linux supported
printer
for under $80, and toner for $10.

I have a LaserJet 6p. Trying to get it to work under Kubuntu either produces
a CPUS error, or just prints out a ton of pages of pure crap. I'd of thought
a printer as popular (old?) as that would at least work wouldn't you?

This printer is available instantly across my network to all PCs
as soon as its switched on. Not like windopes where I would have had to go
around installing drivers on EACH machine for EACH printer.

Not with XP you don't - M$ finally caught up.

Of the 20 odd regular applications that I must use in a working day, I am
now only dependent on 1 for windopes.

...and that is????

All the others have been replaced
with superior GNU/Linux alternatives. You do have to google
to get all your replacements, but its well worth the effort

Assuming you have hours spare with nothing to do other than search google
and try (and fail most of the time) to install applications, only to find
they are slow, crappy and buggy (OO.o comes to mind).

as it saves money and you end up with technologically
superior alternatives

"superior alternatives" is Linux-speak for Buggy, Slow, Crapy, Inconsistant
and generally awful...

 

[kenny]

Of course.. you could even do that with a lesser computer... or one called a
word processor was a devoted machine.

Yet you ignore global compatibility.

Everyone knows windows compatible formats, everyone knows SOME the tech
jargon, and you are most possible sure that if you post a file someone will
be able to open it and run it. Imagine now that without windows you would
have 15 (say) different platforms, each having its own variations of file
types. It would not be a global language anymore. Linux needed to have
openoffice for example that made sure it COULD open DOC files because MS
made doc a standard.

Just take a look at what is happening with the linux distros and the program
installation packages. Its a nightmare... you have to have apps that are
compiled for your distro or they might not work. Have you ever tried this?

Perhaps in the future linux will be better... I am talking about the
present.
Its not just good enough for the masses.

***Disclamer*** I am not bashing linux, I am not a troll. I am just
writting an answer to the linux users who make fun of windows users, and
some food
for thought for everyone.

A linux advocate downloads linux, installs it on a $500 - $800 powerful
computer, and is happy that you he has a free OS.
Furthermore he goes about making fun of everyone else with windows
computers, calling them stupid.

How blind can a person be?

If you look further into the mechanisms that made this possible
you will see that windows was the OS responsible for this.

Windows was the OS that let people of all kinds to start using computers
in an everyday basis. Windows was the OS that changed computers from a
thing only
super geeks that had gone to 5 years to learn how to program, to a thing
any person could do, even a child. Childsplay!
Windows was the OS that changed the whole market for software and
hardware,
created new opportunities, new hardware innovations, new technologies,
and the expansion of the internet to what we have now.

Thousands went to study computer programming because of windows.
Thousands of jobs where created to fuel the windows and computer
revolution.
Thousands of computers were installed in businesses, homes, schools and
everyone
started using them.

Windows created all this foundation that we have today.

Linux now stepped on that foundation of cheap computers, the expanded
internet, and computer literate community
and used that to try to develop a user friendly version of its OS. THIS
HAS NOT BEEN ACCOMPLISHED even to this day.
As any logical person would observe, it is stealing resources from the
windows platform. Not to say that most of its programs
are developed like clones or rip-offs of windows applications.

If you take everything I said into account, if people had not used
windows, the computers would be more expensive, the internet would be
smaller,
less people would be using computers, less people would be designing
hardware, less people would be being educated to be programmers,
less software would exist. Practically we would be 10 years behind... and
10 years in computer time is like hundreds of years normal time.

So if windows made everything cheaper and more accessible, isn't it more
cost efficient for it to exist, than linux? I say that it has a negative
cost...
meaning that it brings more money in that it takes out and created new
possibilities that would never exist without it.
In other words if we wanted to have what we have now, with technology
that was 10 years older, the cost would be unbearable, even if it was
possible.

Having said all that, I know of course that windows was created on top of
a unix prehistory... MS found programmers and ideas from unix.
But you cannot disregard the influence windows had on the advancement of
technologies we have today.

I personally would slap a linux geek on the face if he giggled at me
saying that I was stupid because I used windows.
I would call that disrespect to what enabled him to be in that position.


Kenny.

Nonsene in the extreme. I worked an Apple ][+ computer without an
operating system save on that allowed a disk drive to be used to save
material. Worked quite well. I learned to program on it and didn't need a
university education for that (I did have a Ph.D. in Chemistyr however.)
And found the only advantage of switching to an Microsoft-Intel setup was
a much easier to use wordprocesser which worked well for writing stuff for
use in the classroom. Windows didn't really make things any easier. Rather
it just allowed things to get more complicated. My spreadsheet on the
Apple worked quite well without a graphical user interface. You are
totally wrong about the contribution that Windows made to advances in
ocmputation.
FK

 

[Gordon]

Assuming you have hours spare with nothing to do other than search
google and try (and fail most of the time) to install applications,
only to find they are slow, crappy and buggy (OO.o comes to mind).

What a load of drivel. OO 2 is at LEAST the equivalent of MS Office 2002
(without Outlook of course) and certainly in Ubuntu, the instalation of new
apps is at most three mouse clicks. You don't even have to look for them -
synaptic does it for you.

 

[Harvey Van Sickle]

On 23 Jan 2006, wrote

kenny wrote:
-snip-


#*#*# Apple produced the first point and click interface,
Microsoft managed to steal the tecnology without paying for
it, and it was developed by a woman working for the Zerox
corporation and zerox gave it to Steve jobs as they saw no
worth in it.

so maybe Microsoft dominate the market, but only by luck and
clever marketing.

It was more -- way more than that.

In his early days -- not now -- Gates had an uncanny eye for the
direction that things could move, and how he could capitalise on
that.

Hindsight is so strong that people underestimate how rare foresight
actually is.

It takes *way* more than "luck and clever marketing" not only to
see an opening, but more importantly to understand what that
opening can actually *mean* if you think big. What Gates did was
to realise that, and then to throw everything -- fair and foul --
to corner the market.

If Steve Jobs had had anywhere near the same foresight, he'd have
realised that he should have licenced his OS and cornered half of
the full market, rather than remaining a control-freak on his
hardware and winding up with (5%? 10%?) of the potential market.

 

[kenny]

remember... mind and spirit is what drives the body...

as software is what drives the hardware.

No proof.. I know.. becuase its all tied up. But if you can see clearly like
I do
you can see the truth plain and simple.

 

[kenny]

I agree with you 100%.

Bill gates was just lucky to be in the right place in the right time.
And he used all his capitalist tricks to dominate. Even "borrowing" ideas
from
other platforms.

But the result of all this is something you cannot wave.

 

[kenny]

What a load of drivel. OO 2 is at LEAST the equivalent of MS Office 2002

(without Outlook of course)

Oh yeah....how about access?

Why then are so many buying office and love it, when OO is out there for
free?

OO has many problems.... perhaps one day it will make it there. I think its
a good effort. But its not the best.

If linux shapes up and becomes more user friendly, and programs start being
compiled for that platform, I will be the first to
use it. I dont care what an OS is called. I just want to create...
and I need the tools that will get me the results I want as fast as
possible.

 

[7]

..provided your not wanted to do something like.. hmmm.. video editing,
and provided you can live with inconsistant GUI's that force you to
relearn each and every application because they all do things in a
different way...

Since when?
Hardly true - KDE environment is hardly different from that of windopes
environments. Well, if you want power video editing, you can learn
cinelera and set up a cluster to apply effects in sequence.

if you have the patience to wait for it to load (assuming you have the
patience for Linux/KDE to load first that is)

Since when?
Those things are lightening quick compared to windopes.
I can play 6 videos overlaid on top of each other
in translucent mode at different distances in 3D windows
the flicks and rotates in real time with mouse movement
using Big Linux.
Windopes can at best play one video.

look at your electric bill one day....
"TRY" - yea, I've tried a few myself. I can't say I'm overly impressed.

Nothing useful then?

BWAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!
Are you claiming you know how to use a computer?

I have a LaserJet 6p. Trying to get it to work under Kubuntu either
produces a CPUS error, or just prints out a ton of pages of pure crap. I'd
of thought a printer as popular (old?) as that would at least work
wouldn't you?

Are you claiming you know how to use a computer?
It sounds like you shouldn't be allowed near a computer.

Not with XP you don't - M$ finally caught up.

BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
Since when? Of windopes computer that run one version
of windopes or another, only 30% or fewer computers run ex-peeh.
On the contrary, micoshaft has not caught up at all.

..and that is????
Clippy.


Assuming you have hours spare with nothing to do other than search google
and try (and fail most of the time) to install applications, only to find
they are slow, crappy and buggy (OO.o comes to mind).

Are you claiming you know how to use a computer?
It sounds like you shouldn't be allowed near a computer.

"superior alternatives" is Linux-speak for Buggy, Slow, Crapy,
Inconsistant and generally awful...

Are you claiming you know how to use a computer?
It sounds like you shouldn't be allowed near a computer.

 

[Zitty]

Since when?
Hardly true - KDE environment is hardly different from that of windopes
environments.

Yes that's true, insofar as you need something like a 1GHz PC with 512MB of
ram for it to be usable (although still slower than Windows). Its a shame
that drag-and-drop isn't working properly though (especially with non-kde
apps), and that if I use something like BEEP media player then whenever I
double click on a mp3 file the little 'loading' bouncing cursor and
hourglass-taskbar appears for 30 seconds EVEN THOUGH the file is loaded and
playing.. I could go on, but I won't as I'm sure your fully aware of how all
the stupid little features of the different window managers don't
cooperate...

Well, if you want power video editing, you can learn
cinelera and set up a cluster to apply effects in sequence.

Have you ever tried that?? That of *all* things shows just how *BAD* linux
apps can be - its a complete and utter pain to setup, get working and make
something approaching stable, and even if you do (I gave up trying), it
still 'runs' like its on a 386.

Since when?
Those things are lightening quick compared to windopes.

Really? perhaps you have the time to tweak the living daylights out of your
Linux setup - but in my and everyone else's experience the desktop part of
Linux is pathetically slow compared to Windows.

I can play 6 videos overlaid on top of each other
in translucent mode at different distances in 3D windows
the flicks and rotates in real time with mouse movement
using Big Linux.
Windopes can at best play one video.

Yours may be only able to only play one, I can play as many as I like. I
remember seeing a 1.5GHz system being sold on a TV shoping channel a few
years ago and they where playing 10 video's concurrently to show how
'powerful' the system was. I could do the same on my 800MHz system I had at
the time and had to demonstrate it to a friend to show that it was nothing
special.

BWAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!
Are you claiming you know how to use a computer?

I'm not claiming anything. You are the one bragging about what you use your
PC for....

Are you claiming you know how to use a computer?
It sounds like you shouldn't be allowed near a computer.

or perhaps I should.. seeing as if *I* have problems with setting up Linux
to work with my hardware, how the hell are other people who would hardly
know how to do more than point-and-click supposed to get it working?

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[Dan Evans]

***Disclamer*** I am not bashing linux, I am not a troll. I am just
writting an answer to the linux users who make fun of windows users, and
some food
for thought for everyone.

Errrm, OK

Thousands went to study computer programming because of windows.

Apple IIe and Acorn Electron/BBC B here, and most of the guys I have worked
with.

Thousands of jobs where created to fuel the windows and computer
revolution.

Yep, those windows machines need a lot of supporting. I've got 2 clients
just about the same size as each other, one with a Windows server, the other
with a Linux server. I've touched the Linux server once to reinstall after a
hardware failure, the Windows server gets about 5 hours a month as a
minimum, usually closer to 7.

If you take everything I said into account, if people had not used
windows, the computers would be more expensive, the internet would be
smaller,

Having seen the quantity of crap with "Frontpage" in the markup, a smaller
Internet probably isn't a bad thing.

less people would be using computers, less people would be designing
hardware, less people would be being educated to be programmers,
less software would exist. Practically we would be 10 years behind... and
10 years in computer time is like hundreds of years normal time.

And my dog is 49 in human years. He still shits in the garden though.

I personally would slap a linux geek on the face if he giggled at me
saying that I was stupid because I used windows.

What if we said you were stupid for other reasons?

I would call that disrespect to what enabled him to be in that position.

What enabled me to be in this position is 2 years "apprenticeship" on
Solaris.

Dan







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[Dan Evans]

Check out gnucash

Have you seen the dependency tree for that? Looks like the European Royalty
family tree, but more complicated.

Dan







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