jv16 PowerTools: a not expired version

[Trabi]

Hello,

the Version 1.3 of jv16 PowerTools is expired.

The Version 1.2 build 180 isn't expired - for the moment.

I've found it here:

ftp://ftp.fh-niederrhein.de/pub/win9x/utils/jv16pt_setup.exe

Chris
http://www.freewarenetz.de

 

[optikl]

Hello,

the Version 1.3 of jv16 PowerTools is expired.

The Version 1.2 build 180 isn't expired - for the moment.

I've found it here:

ftp://ftp.fh-niederrhein.de/pub/win9x/utils/jv16pt_setup.exe

Chris
http://www.freewarenetz.de

What do you mean by expired? All versions prior to 1.4 are freeware
products, no?

 

[Harvey Van Sickle]

Hello,

the Version 1.3 of jv16 PowerTools is expired.

The Version 1.2 build 180 isn't expired - for the moment.

I've found it here:

ftp://ftp.fh-niederrhein.de/pub/win9x/utils/jv16pt_setup.exe

Chris
http://www.freewarenetz.de

What do you mean by expired? All versions prior to 1.4 are freeware
products, no?[/QUOTE]

They clearly built in an expiry to Version 1.3, so that it would stop
working as of 31 December, 2003.

Like the others, my copy of Version 1.3 came up with a dialogue box
that said something like "This is a very old version of PowerTools --
click here to upgrade to Version 1.4" -- that is, to the non-freeware
one.

 

[Mikey]

Now that "TIME to 2004 then EXPIRE" was a dirty rotten trick with v.1.3.

Sure looks like the lowest of the lowest scumback profiteering trick..after
all the positive feelings and appreciations that piled up and were
expressed here about Juorno.

The worst about it is that no warnings whatsoever were expressed all the
while he knew about that sh!t coming.

Worse news about a disguised Freeware yet and ever.
Disgracefull,

Urge that all mentions of him ever having existed be scaped off the Freeware
World.

Mikey

 

[Paul Blarmy]

On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 13:02:20 -0500, Mikey wrote...

Worse news about a disguised Freeware yet and ever.
Disgracefull,

Urge that all mentions of him ever having existed be scaped off the Freeware
World.

This reaction kinda reminds me of the time that CAI AntiVirus stopped
being freeware. For my part, I am happy to have had the chance to use
something for a period of time for no monetary charge. The fact that I
now will have to find a replacement does not lessen my appreciation of
the former freeware product at all - rather I am grateful for the period
of free use that I did actually enjoy.

Jounni gave us something for a while and now he wants to make a living -
big deal, just move onto something else instead, thank him for what he
previously did and wish him well whilst you look for something else.

Amazing.......

 

[Jordan]

On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 13:02:20 -0500, Mikey wrote...


This reaction kinda reminds me of the time that CAI AntiVirus stopped
being freeware. For my part, I am happy to have had the chance to use
something for a period of time for no monetary charge.

I, too, am thankful to have had the chance to use jv16 Powertools at no
charge. However, CA did warn everybody that after a certain date, their free
AV was going away. Mr. Vuorio *warned nobody* about the expiration date or
that his product was changing shareware. That of course, is his right but
it's also my right to not buy and encourage others not to buy his software
because of what I view as shady and underhanded business practices.

 

[Steveproj]

On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 13:02:20 -0500, Mikey wrote...


This reaction kinda reminds me of the time that CAI AntiVirus stopped
being freeware. For my part, I am happy to have had the chance to use
something for a period of time for no monetary charge. The fact that I
now will have to find a replacement does not lessen my appreciation of
the former freeware product at all - rather I am grateful for the period
of free use that I did actually enjoy.

Jounni gave us something for a while and now he wants to make a living -
big deal, just move onto something else instead, thank him for what he
previously did and wish him well whilst you look for something else.

Amazing.......

Yes I agree, Ta Jounni, have deleted you now, something else will come along
I am sure.

 

[Bernd Schmitt]

These are the examples why I switched to GPL licenced Software ->
Once free, free for ever.

Ciao
Bernd

 

[REMbranded]

"Mikey" <savagem[-OBVIOUS-]@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Now that "TIME to 2004 then EXPIRE" was a dirty rotten trick with v.1.3.

Sure looks like the lowest of the lowest scumback profiteering trick..after
all the positive feelings and appreciations that piled up and were
expressed here about Juorno.

The worst about it is that no warnings whatsoever were expressed all the
while he knew about that sh!t coming.

Worse news about a disguised Freeware yet and ever.
Disgracefull,

Urge that all mentions of him ever having existed be scaped off the Freeware
World.

I took the time to write the author my feelings about this. I'll not
consider any program by this company again, for pretty good reason.

 

[Jackson]

On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 13:02:20 -0500, Mikey wrote...


This reaction kinda reminds me of the time that CAI AntiVirus stopped
being freeware. For my part, I am happy to have had the chance to use
something for a period of time for no monetary charge. The fact that I
now will have to find a replacement does not lessen my appreciation of
the former freeware product at all - rather I am grateful for the
period of free use that I did actually enjoy.

Jounni gave us something for a while and now he wants to make a
living - big deal, just move onto something else instead, thank him
for what he previously did and wish him well whilst you look for
something else.

Amazing.......

Very well put, Paul, wrt both jv and CA. I appreciated IPE just as I
now do AVG and I'll even continue thanking jv for the slightly earlier
version of jv16 I'll be using now. Many people have a very strange
sense of who owes who. I am amazed at the massive amounts of quality
free software people make available. My using it creates no obligations
for them. Of course,there are some exceptions--e.g., a backup program
shouldn't suddenly stop restoring. My complaints are mostly with the
lack of support from people I have paid, but most of them are pretty
good too.

 

[omega]

(e-mail address removed):

"Mikey" <savagem[-OBVIOUS-]@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Now that "TIME to 2004 then EXPIRE" was a dirty rotten trick with v.1.3.

Sure looks like the lowest of the lowest scumback profiteering trick..after
all the positive feelings and appreciations that piled up and were
expressed here about Juorno.

The worst about it is that no warnings whatsoever were expressed all the
while he knew about that sh!t coming.

Worse news about a disguised Freeware yet and ever.
Disgracefull,

Urge that all mentions of him ever having existed be scaped off the Freeware
World.

I took the time to write the author my feelings about this. I'll not
consider any program by this company again, for pretty good reason.

How can his moves be argued as anything but conniving?

He calculated out gaining free beta-testing, and gaining free publicity.
Until ready for marketing. Individual reactions to that differ; but those
who support being misled, how can they further defend the hidden expiry in
this self-claimed "freeware"? The author's dishonesty gurgles throughout:
In his calculated plans, in his false freeware claims, and in that which
he hid within the very coding of this program.

Juorno > Hall of Shame.

 

[omega]

(e-mail address removed):

"Mikey" <savagem[-OBVIOUS-]@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Now that "TIME to 2004 then EXPIRE" was a dirty rotten trick with v.1.3.

Sure looks like the lowest of the lowest scumback profiteering trick..after
all the positive feelings and appreciations that piled up and were
expressed here about Juorno.

The worst about it is that no warnings whatsoever were expressed all the
while he knew about that sh!t coming.

Worse news about a disguised Freeware yet and ever.
Disgracefull,

Urge that all mentions of him ever having existed be scaped off the Freeware
World.

I took the time to write the author my feelings about this. I'll not
consider any program by this company again, for pretty good reason.

How can his moves be argued as anything but conniving?

He calculated out gaining free beta-testing, and gaining free publicity.
Until ready for marketing. Individual reactions to that differ; but those
who support being misled, how can they further defend the hidden expiry in
this self-claimed "freeware"? The author's dishonesty gurgles throughout:
In his calculated plans, in his false freeware claims, and in that which
he hid within the very coding of this program.

J Vuorio > Hall of Shame.

 

[REMbranded]

How can his moves be argued as anything but conniving?

This is why I wrote. There is no other explanation.

He calculated out gaining free beta-testing, and gaining free publicity.
Until ready for marketing. Individual reactions to that differ; but those
who support being misled, how can they further defend the hidden expiry in
this self-claimed "freeware"? The author's dishonesty gurgles throughout:
In his calculated plans, in his false freeware claims, and in that which
he hid within the very coding of this program.

I read the license carefully as I installed it. There were no mentions
at all about expiration. As a matter of fact, it appears to be a legal
document guaranteeing home users the right to use the unlicensed
software as long as they abide by the EULA.

"jv16 PowerTools
Copyright 1999-2003 Jouni Vuorio.
All rights reserved.

IMPORTANT - READ CAREFULLY:
This license agreement is a legal agreement between you
(individual or a legal entity) and Jouni Vuorio, the author
of the software product "jv16 PowerTools"."

Juorno > Hall of Shame.

Yes. How unfortunate.

 

[tfog]

On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 13:02:20 -0500, Mikey wrote...


This reaction kinda reminds me of the time that CAI AntiVirus stopped
being freeware. For my part, I am happy to have had the chance to use
something for a period of time for no monetary charge. The fact that I
now will have to find a replacement does not lessen my appreciation of
the former freeware product at all - rather I am grateful for the
period of free use that I did actually enjoy.

Jounni gave us something for a while and now he wants to make a living
- big deal, just move onto something else instead, thank him for what
he previously did and wish him well whilst you look for something
else.

Amazing.......

For reasons I don't fully appreciate, People seem annoyed by the
expiration. That is the author's prerogative. If you really want to keep
using it, merely change the date on your operating system to a pre-1/1/04
date, run the program and reset the date when done. Maybe a bit
inconvenient, but it works.

 

[Harvey Van Sickle]

On 02 Jan 2004, tfog wrote

-snip-

For reasons I don't fully appreciate, People seem annoyed by the
expiration. That is the author's prerogative.

Indeed it is the author's prerogative -- but it's not the expiration
that people are annoyed by; it's the way in which the author failed to
mention -- anywhere -- that he'd coded an expiry date into the program.

It is dishonest behaviour to bury such a prerogative in the coding
unless one states that that is what one is doing.

*That's* why people are annoyed.

 

[George]

For reasons I don't fully appreciate, People seem annoyed by the
expiration. That is the author's prerogative. If you really want to keep
using it, merely change the date on your operating system to a pre-1/1/04
date, run the program and reset the date when done. Maybe a bit
inconvenient, but it works.

I think it is because it was advertised as freeware with no mention anywhere
that it was time limited. If the time limitation was mentioned no one who
used it would be bothered as they would have known about it and accepted it.
As it is the time limitation kicked in shortly after the product went
commercial which could appear to be premeditated and a way to get the
software beta tested and hopefully a willing customer base. As it is I
stopped using it ages ago so not bothered either way.

 

[Carlos Rodriquez]

Paul Blarmy <[email protected]> wrote in

For reasons I don't fully appreciate, People seem annoyed by the
expiration. That is the author's prerogative. If you really want to keep
using it, merely change the date on your operating system to a pre-1/1/04
date, run the program and reset the date when done. Maybe a bit
inconvenient, but it works.

I'm running WinXP Pro with a 1.8Mhz Celeron, 512 mb ram and the last
freeware version of JV16 crashes constantly. I installed version 1,2
with the same results. Changed date as you had done, as well as some
others have and it still crashes after searching for a minute or so
through the registry. Anybody running WinXP Pro without any problem?

 

[D.G.]

I'm running WinXP Pro with a 1.8Mhz Celeron, 512 mb ram and the last
freeware version of JV16 crashes constantly. I installed version 1,2
with the same results. Changed date as you had done, as well as some
others have and it still crashes after searching for a minute or so
through the registry. Anybody running WinXP Pro without any problem?

Can't answer for Pro; running WinXP home with jv16 1.3.0.195 with no
problems.


Regards
D.G.

(e-mail address removed)

 

[Antoine]

Can't answer for Pro; running WinXP home with jv16 1.3.0.195 with
no problems.

The expiring version is *1.3.0.196*. The previous ones don't seem to time-limited.

 

[Antoine]

Can't answer for Pro; running WinXP home with jv16 1.3.0.195 with no
problems.

The expiring version is *1.3.0.196*. The previous ones don't seem to be time-limited.