java vs virtual machine

D

dinkado

I have a friend with an older copy of XP Home running on his computer. It had been upgraded to SP2 and has all the critical patches and security additions offered. The one thing it doesn't seem to have is Sun Java. It is still running Microsoft Virtual Machine. Should he continue running that as he's had no problems with it, though I've heard it can present some security problems. Or should he go to the Java website and install the entire Java machine, and remove the older virtual machine. He doesn't game, nor do any graphics or anything so this is mostly a question as to which would be the better addition in regards to security?
Thank you in advance
dink
 
D

Detlev Dreyer

dinkado said:
I have a friend with an older copy of XP Home running on his computer.
It had been upgraded to SP2 and has all the critical patches and
security additions offered. The one thing it doesn't seem to have is Sun
Java. It is still running Microsoft Virtual Machine. Should he continue
running that as he's had no problems with it, though I've heard it can
present some security problems. Or should he go to the Java website
and install the entire Java machine, and remove the older virtual
machine. He doesn't game, nor do any graphics or anything so this is
mostly a question as to which would be the better addition in regards
to security?
Click to expand...

The short answer is yes, install the latest Sun Java version and disable
the old MS Java VM via Control Panel > Internet Options > Advanced tab.
Note also that some third-party applications require Sun Java rather
than the Microsoft Java VM which *cannot* be uninstalled by default.

The long answer is that I kept the latest release of the Microsoft Java
VM activated on one of my machines for years and another MVP is running
the same test as well. We did not encounter any security issues by now.
 
C

Curt Christianson

Hi dink,

Have your friend download the latest Sun Java Runtime Environment from :
http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp
There are several downloads there, and the one he's looking for is JRE 6.

--
HTH,
Curt

Windows Support Center
http://aumha.org/

I have a friend with an older copy of XP Home running on his computer. It
had been upgraded to SP2 and has all the critical patches and security
additions offered. The one thing it doesn't seem to have is Sun Java. It is
still running Microsoft Virtual Machine. Should he continue running that as
he's had no problems with it, though I've heard it can present some security
problems. Or should he go to the Java website and install the entire Java
machine, and remove the older virtual machine. He doesn't game, nor do any
graphics or anything so this is mostly a question as to which would be the
better addition in regards to security?
Thank you in advance
dink
 
D

dinkado

Thank you for your suggestions and links. I've sent your reply over to my friend, and have told him to make a restore point, and to download what you have suggested. I also sent him the reply from Detlev Dreyer and will hope he follows thru.
dink




Hi dink,

Have your friend download the latest Sun Java Runtime Environment from :
http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp
There are several downloads there, and the one he's looking for is JRE 6.

--
HTH,
Curt

Windows Support Center
http://aumha.org/

I have a friend with an older copy of XP Home running on his computer. It
had been upgraded to SP2 and has all the critical patches and security
additions offered. The one thing it doesn't seem to have is Sun Java. It is
still running Microsoft Virtual Machine. Should he continue running that as
he's had no problems with it, though I've heard it can present some security
problems. Or should he go to the Java website and install the entire Java
machine, and remove the older virtual machine. He doesn't game, nor do any
graphics or anything so this is mostly a question as to which would be the
better addition in regards to security?
Thank you in advance
dink
 
D

dinkado

Thank you for your reply and suggestions. I've forwarded your message over to my friend and will hope that he follows thru
dink



dinkado said:
I have a friend with an older copy of XP Home running on his computer.
It had been upgraded to SP2 and has all the critical patches and
security additions offered. The one thing it doesn't seem to have is Sun
Java. It is still running Microsoft Virtual Machine. Should he continue
running that as he's had no problems with it, though I've heard it can
present some security problems. Or should he go to the Java website
and install the entire Java machine, and remove the older virtual
machine. He doesn't game, nor do any graphics or anything so this is
mostly a question as to which would be the better addition in regards
to security?
Click to expand...

The short answer is yes, install the latest Sun Java version and disable
the old MS Java VM via Control Panel > Internet Options > Advanced tab.
Note also that some third-party applications require Sun Java rather
than the Microsoft Java VM which *cannot* be uninstalled by default.

The long answer is that I kept the latest release of the Microsoft Java
VM activated on one of my machines for years and another MVP is running
the same test as well. We did not encounter any security issues by now.
 
M

mikeyhsd

have used nothing but the ms java and had no problems.
tried the other java and had problems with web sites.

(e-mail address removed)@sport.rr.com

I have a friend with an older copy of XP Home running on his computer. It had been upgraded to SP2 and has all the critical patches and security additions offered. The one thing it doesn't seem to have is Sun Java. It is still running Microsoft Virtual Machine. Should he continue running that as he's had no problems with it, though I've heard it can present some security problems. Or should he go to the Java website and install the entire Java machine, and remove the older virtual machine. He doesn't game, nor do any graphics or anything so this is mostly a question as to which would be the better addition in regards to security?
Thank you in advance
dink
 
D

Detlev Dreyer

dinkado said:
Thank you for your reply and suggestions. I've forwarded your message
over to my friend and will hope that he follows thru dink
Click to expand...

You're welcome.
 
C

Curt Christianson

The reason for the switch to JRE 6 is that *anything* less (versionwise) is
very vulnerable from a security standpoint.

--
HTH,
Curt

Windows Support Center
http://aumha.org/

have used nothing but the ms java and had no problems.
tried the other java and had problems with web sites.

(e-mail address removed)@sport.rr.com

I have a friend with an older copy of XP Home running on his computer. It
had been upgraded to SP2 and has all the critical patches and security
additions offered. The one thing it doesn't seem to have is Sun Java. It is
still running Microsoft Virtual Machine. Should he continue running that as
he's had no problems with it, though I've heard it can present some security
problems. Or should he go to the Java website and install the entire Java
machine, and remove the older virtual machine. He doesn't game, nor do any
graphics or anything so this is mostly a question as to which would be the
better addition in regards to security?
Thank you in advance
dink
 
C

Curt Christianson

You're welcome.

--
HTH,
Curt

Windows Support Center
http://aumha.org/

Thank you for your suggestions and links. I've sent your reply over to my
friend, and have told him to make a restore point, and to download what you
have suggested. I also sent him the reply from Detlev Dreyer and will hope
he follows thru.
dink




Hi dink,

Have your friend download the latest Sun Java Runtime Environment from :
http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp
There are several downloads there, and the one he's looking for is JRE 6.

--
HTH,
Curt

Windows Support Center
http://aumha.org/

I have a friend with an older copy of XP Home running on his computer. It
had been upgraded to SP2 and has all the critical patches and security
additions offered. The one thing it doesn't seem to have is Sun Java. It is
still running Microsoft Virtual Machine. Should he continue running that as
he's had no problems with it, though I've heard it can present some security
problems. Or should he go to the Java website and install the entire Java
machine, and remove the older virtual machine. He doesn't game, nor do any
graphics or anything so this is mostly a question as to which would be the
better addition in regards to security?
Thank you in advance
dink
 

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