Is the Professional Look Really Better?

[Greywyvern]

[referring to web standards]

FYI, I think you'll find that almost no one cares about this kind of
thing anymore.

Isn't that why you need FrontPage as a crutch?

The purpose of the web is interoperability, and without stadards that goal
is unreachable. For too long, the varying goals of different browser
manufacturers meant that broken code reached the widest audience of visual
browser users. From the validation examples you posted, it's obvious this
mind-set still prevails.

However, let's hear you sing that tune in five years. The push for
validation, especially in newly opening web design occupations, is
growing. You'll likely deny that though.

It is only within *your* communities: the FrontPage users, the hobby
coders, the template makers; for which the apathy to validate is growing.

Grey

 

[SmakDaddy]

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.google.com
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.asp.net
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.yahoo.com
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.zdnet.com

Looks like you've got a lot of work to do! These are just the ones that I
thought of right off.

FYI, I think you'll find that almost no one cares about this kind of thing
anymore.

--
Jim Cheshire
JIMCO
http://www.jimcoaddins.com

Now offering templates ranging from
affordable standard templates to
powerful e-commerce applications!

You may be right.
With a template, a WYSIWYG editor and some webspace, nearly anyone can be an
authority on web standards.

I'm not saying the Validator is an endall, it's a tool to check your work.
The Goo and Yhoo, like many sites won't ever completely validate, it's
impossible to do so, especially with bespoke code, etc.

It is a tool though, and a valuable one.
To offhandly discount standards and basics really just shows -----

Well, never mind. It's probably a lost cause anyway

Hey, good luck with your site and your 10's of thousands of customers and
contacts you have

 

[Toby Inkster]

Wrong guess, but this is a great example of what I'm talking about!

Well IP address guessing seemed the most obvious route for a lamer like
yourself to take.

So you go down the Cookie path instead. Go to my browser, hit F12. Cookies
disabled.

Maybe you need to be a programmer to really understand how to look beyond
the basics.

http://tobyinkster.co.uk/Software/linux/steg/steg-encode.pl
http://tobyinkster.co.uk/Software/linux/steg/steg-decode.pl
http://tobyinkster.co.uk/password-scripts

 

[=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28Crash_Gordon=AE\]

Sheesh, when are we gonna Plonk the alt.oids?

This was interesting about 60 msgs ago, now it's the same old boring crap.

You'd think they're webs were fantastic by their posts but they arent..although Grey's site does look kinda nice...the others I've looked at look like they were designed for Lynx.

Plonktime for the alt.oids imo.

 

[Jim Cheshire \(JIMCO\)]

Sheesh, when are we gonna Plonk the alt.oids?

This was interesting about 60 msgs ago, now it's the same old boring
crap.

You'd think they're webs were fantastic by their posts but they
arent..although Grey's site does look kinda nice...the others I've
looked at look like they were designed for Lynx.

Plonktime for the alt.oids imo.

Yeah, I've plonked them. It was fun for a while, but now they've abandoned
all logic so it's just annoying.

--
Jim Cheshire
JIMCO
http://www.jimcoaddins.com

Now offering templates ranging from
affordable standard templates to
powerful e-commerce applications!

 

[William Tasso]

That's just so laughable to me...
Humility would suit ...
others who are flaming ...
do you have a personalized ...

There it is again. Is there really any need to make a technical
discussion about web sites into a bum sniffing contest?

Is it too much to hope that this attitude is not characteristic of all the
folk crossing the divide from but
rather is merely a lone voice.

 

[Eric Jarvis]

I used this one: http://www.healyourchurchwebsite.com/obfuscator/ but was
told it didn't work for SBC/Yahoo users who read their email using SBC's
"browser."

The best bet is to use multiple choices on a "contact us" page. There
won't be many people who can't manage at least one of the possible
options.

 

[Greywyvern]

http://tobyinkster.co.uk/Software/linux/steg/steg-encode.pl
http://tobyinkster.co.uk/Software/linux/steg/steg-decode.pl
http://tobyinkster.co.uk/password-scripts

Don't bother. In Jim's World, no one has any clue what they are doing
except Jim. In fact, you probably stole those scripts from someone at IBM.

Grey

 

[Windsun]

Speaking of lamers...

I think we have seen enough of this:

"> Well IP address guessing seemed the most obvious route for a lamer like

yourself to take."

If you cannot express yourself without name calling, then please go troll
elsewhere.

 

[CarolW.]

Are you sure you're not just trying to get the last word?

Nah, my # of posts in this thread are far lower in number than can be
said of the ones indeed trying to get "the last word". Above I was
simply responding to someone's complaint and the faulty logic shared
in their complaint.

But by all means, please continue - I find this thread humorous.
*settles back in seat with my cup of coffee* Last I recall you were up
to sending out of cookies, being new in templates, and having 10,000
hits a week - right?

Carol