Is my old IBM Deskstar 60GXP 40 GB HDD dying now?

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Guest

The point is, none of what he claimed is true.
It was all BS, but then, haha, what's so unusual
about that here? I suppose you "know" what MTBF
is all about (haha, yeah, right).

AW [21 May 2006 13:20:32 GMT]:
 
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Arno Wagner

Previously said:
The point is, none of what he claimed is true.
It was all BS, but then, haha, what's so unusual
about that here? I suppose you "know" what MTBF
is all about (haha, yeah, right).
AW [21 May 2006 13:20:32 GMT]:
not what MTBF is about. I think you are statistically challenged.

You know, top-posting is impolite.

And you are righ now only adding to the noise level here.
It is not difficult to find out what MTBF is. That you
obviously have not bothered to speaks volumes on the value
of your comment.

Arno
 
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Folkert Rienstra

Arno Wagner said:
Previously said:
The point is, none of what he claimed is true.
It was all BS, but then, haha, what's so unusual
about that here? I suppose you "know" what MTBF
is all about (haha, yeah, right).
AW [21 May 2006 13:20:32 GMT]:
not what MTBF is about. I think you are statistically challenged.

You know, top-posting is impolite.

So is posting your name in the middle of an article.
And you are righ now only adding to the noise level here.

He a brother of yours, babblemouth?
 
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ANTant

In said:
Aa [Fri, 19 May 2006 15:58:38 -0500]:
Like what? Old age? I haven't changed anytrhing for months in my computer (ha
Like what? Are you looking for alternatives,
or do you already know it's the disk? If the
disk is bad, replace it. It'll be the easiest
thing to do.

Actually, it doesn't seem like IBM drive. It is probably the controller or the Seagate drive. I moved the pagefile
away from this IBM drive and I still get errors.
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ANTant

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Rod Speed said:
(e-mail address removed) wrote
Correct. But he does have reallocated sectors in the SMART report.
Yes, you can get bad caps on the motherboard. Those
are the usually blue or black plastic covered post like
things sticking up from the motherboard. The tops should
be flat and any that have bulged or leaked have failed.
You dont need to have done with a cap failure or the
failure that those 60gxp drives are notorious for.

Is that common? I noticed my last machine (not this one I mentioned) died because of my PSU (250 watts) was the
borderline (it ran for almost a year without problems too), and decided to stop (heard it spin down and power off
the machine). Then, the horrible odor (no smokes) and my old Quantum HDD's controller died (wouldn't spin
anymore).

They are called deathstars for a reason.
That produced a full class action suit.

Is it too late for me to get my money back? I had it since 9/9/2001, but I don't think I have the receipt anymore
(long gone).
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ANTant

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Folkert Rienstra said:
[bigsnip]

It did get really warm a few days ago, but the recent symptoms wasn't that warm.
Doesn't matter. The errors are introduced when the power supply is marginal
or temperature is high. It can be quite some time before you run in to them if

Hmm, is there a way to check this? I only had this 500 watts Seasonic S12 PSU since 11/25/2005. Is it not powerful
enough? Heat could be a thing. My small room can get over 85 degrees(F) during heat waves (L.A. area) and my
motherboard sensor says 112F and CPU says 151F. However, it didn't get that high recently (probably since October
2005). I already have HDD coolers, extra case fans, etc. in this old full-tower ATX case (got it in 1998 I think).

you don't access the files they are in frequently or don't do surface scans often.
Once introduced, (write)errors stay, even if the system returns to normal.
These errors are corrected/disappear when the 'bad' sectors are re/over-written.

I am going to try more SpinRite tonight. So far, various disk utilites said no problems.
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ANTant

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Rod Speed said:
(e-mail address removed) wrote:
That does suggest that it might be a problem outside the
drive, like motherboard/power supply/overheating etc.
In fact on a closer look, the drive temperature would be
worth checking with Everest, HDTune doesnt appear to
be showing it properly. Show the Seagate SMART data too.
And check the SMART data for that drive too.

I don't think I can get the Seagate HDD's SMART sensor data due to the VIA SATA Controller. Even SpinRite can't
show it. The reason for this setup is because I have three internal HDDs and two CD/DVD drives (one is a burner).
Also, using the onboard Promise controller seems to fail to boot up my Windows XP 100% of the times (no idea why).
It is like those external USB HDDs. No SMART sensor datas, etc. Any ideas why controller does this? Maybe this
In said:
I need some other opinions from you HDD experts since I don't know
about HDD issues. I would think it is dying, but I can't seem to get
the symptoms:
The last week, I noticed my Windows XP Pro. SP2 (all updates; VIA
4in1 drivers) acting funny. I checked the event viewer logs and saw:
Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 5/18/2006
Time: 10:00:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a paging
operation.For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 68 00 01 00 b6 00 ..h...?.
0008: 00 00 00 00 33 00 04 80 ....3..?
0010: 2d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 -.......
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 10 33 06 00 00 00 00 00 .3......
0030: ff ff ff ff 03 00 00 00 ????....
0038: 40 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 @.......
0040: ff 20 0a 12 80 03 20 40 ? ..?. @
0048: 00 00 01 00 0a 00 00 00 ........
0050: 00 00 00 00 a8 6f 3d 87 ....?o=?
0058: 00 00 00 00 d0 99 45 87 ....??E?
0060: 00 00 00 00 6e ff 93 0c ....n??.
0068: 2a 00 0c 93 ff 6e 00 00 *..??n..
0070: 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0078: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
Event Type: Error
Event Source: viamraid
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/18/2006
Time: 10:00:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
The device, \Device\Scsi\viamraid1, did not respond within the
timeout period.For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 0f 00 10 00 01 00 6a 00 ......j.
0008: 00 00 00 00 09 00 04 c0 .......?
0010: 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 94 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0030: 00 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 ........

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 5/17/2006
Time: 7:56:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a paging
operation.
For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 68 00 01 00 b6 00 ..h...?.
0008: 00 00 00 00 33 00 04 80 ....3..?
0010: 2d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 -.......
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 53 97 54 00 00 00 00 00 S?T.....
0030: ff ff ff ff 03 00 00 00 ????....
0038: 40 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 @.......
0040: ff 20 0a 12 80 03 20 40 ? ..?. @
0048: 00 00 01 00 0a 00 00 00 ........
0050: 00 00 00 00 68 46 55 87 ....hFU?
0058: 00 00 00 00 a0 d2 30 87 .... ?0?
0060: 00 00 00 00 16 55 e2 0a .....U?.
0068: 2a 00 0a e2 55 16 00 00 *..?U...
0070: 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0078: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
Event Type: Error
Event Source: viamraid
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/17/2006
Time: 7:56:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
The device, \Device\Scsi\viamraid1, did not respond within the
timeout period.
For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 0f 00 10 00 01 00 6a 00 ......j.
0008: 00 00 00 00 09 00 04 c0 .......?
0010: 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8.......
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0030: 00 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 ........
Note: Yes, I have a paging file here.

HDD Tune v2.51 said on 5/18/2006 10:45 PM PDT:
HD Tune: IC35L040AVER07-0 Health
ID Current Worst ThresholdData
Status (01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 60
65536 Ok (02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50
0 Ok (03) Spin Up Time 113 113 24
12910783 Ok (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0
784 Ok (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5
3 Ok (07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67
0 Ok (08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20
0 Ok (09) Power On Hours Count 99 99 0
13487 Ok (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60
0 Ok (0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0
740 Ok (C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50
784 Ok (C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50
784 Ok (C2) Temperature 98 98 0
1179704 Ok (C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0
3 Ok (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0
1 Ok (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0
0 Ok (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0
0 Ok
Power On Time : 13487
Health Status : Ok
Note: 05 was highlighted yellow.

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\>chkdsk d:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is AFA64-D.
WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.
CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Security descriptor verification completed.
10490412 KB total disk space.
5964844 KB in 9376 files.
3392 KB in 570 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
30828 KB in use by the system.
4096 KB occupied by the log file.
4491348 KB available on disk.
4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
2622603 total allocation units on disk.
1122837 allocation units available on disk.
C:\>chkdsk g:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is AFA64-G.
WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.
CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Security descriptor verification completed.
9229308 KB total disk space.
2797308 KB in 6018 files.
2792 KB in 294 indexes.
4 KB in bad sectors.
27548 KB in use by the system.
4096 KB occupied by the log file.
6401656 KB available on disk.
4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
2307327 total allocation units on disk.
1600414 allocation units available on disk.
Notes: This 4 KB was from last year (don't remember when exactly). D
and G: are two partitions on this
physical HDD.
My computer specifications can be found here:
http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt (primary
one).
I ran chkdsk a few times outside and inside of Windows and ran HD
Tune's error scan, but found no new problems. Speed looked good too.
Any ideas? Maybe I am not testing enough? Thank you in advance.
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ANTant

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Kevin McMurtrie said:
The IBM Deskstar drives were notorious for failures. IBM's solution to
their short life was to say that they shouldn't be used for more than a
couple of hours day, though warranty replacements for early drives could
still be used continuously without voiding the warranty. IBM sold their
sinking hard drive business to Hitachi.
I gave up on regular warranty replacements after a while. I don't have
much that I want to put on such an unreliable drive. Most died within 6
to 18 months. Only one out of maybe 6 still works today.

Wow. That's crazy.
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Rod Speed

(e-mail address removed) wrote
Is that common?

Is what common ? Bad caps isnt that uncommon.

60gxp drives dying was so common that it generated a class action suit.
I noticed my last machine (not this one I mentioned)
died because of my PSU (250 watts) was the borderline
(it ran for almost a year without problems too), and decided
to stop (heard it spin down and power off the machine).
Then, the horrible odor (no smokes)

Thats just the power supply dying, not due to the rating.
and my old Quantum HDD's controller died (wouldn't spin anymore).

Yeah, it isnt that uncommon for a PSU failure to
kill some of what is powered from it. It basically
over voltages some of the rails when dying.

Is that the same motherboard ? You may just be
seeing a failure of the motherboard now. Over voltages
dont necessarily kill things stone dead immediately.
Is it too late for me to get my money back?

That wasnt the result of the class action suit.

The settlement only appears to apply to the 75GXP and the
settlement is the usual pathetic result in your case anyway.

--------------------------------------
There are two categories of benefits with respect to each Qualifying Deskstar 75 GXP, and
each Class Member may request and is eligible to receive only one of these categories of
benefits. The categories are: (1) all Class Members who purchased a Qualifying Deskstar
75GXP and have experienced a “disk drive failure” (an actual material problem with its
performance, as evidenced by a record either in (a) IBM’s Technical Support Center
database; (b) IBM’s Return Material Authorization database; or (c) the “IBM 75GXP”
database maintained by the Sheller Ludwig & Badey law firm as of February 15, 2005) and
meet the other Settlement eligibility criteria are eligible to receive a check for $100;
and (2) all Class Members who purchased a Qualifying Deskstar 75GXP and have not
experienced disk drive failure are eligible to receive their choice of either 25 blank
CD-ROMs (with jewel cases) or a 15% Discount Certificate for a future purchase at IBM.com.

--------------------------------------------
I had it since 9/9/2001, but I don't think
I have the receipt anymore (long gone).

Could be a problem, but its academic anyway since the settlement is only for the 75GXP.
 
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Rod Speed

(e-mail address removed) wrote
Hmm, is there a way to check this?

Make sure the temperature and power are fine now and run
the hard drive manufacturer's diagnostic and do what quite
a few call a low level format and see what happens to the
SMART data. That will lose the data on the drive tho.

That should recheck all the sectors on the drive with writing.
I only had this 500 watts Seasonic S12 PSU
since 11/25/2005. Is it not powerful enough?

Very unlikely to no be powerful enough.
Heat could be a thing. My small room can get over 85
degrees(F) during heat waves (L.A. area) and my
motherboard sensor says 112F and CPU says 151F.

What does the drive SMART temperature show then ?
However, it didn't get that high recently (probably since October 2005).

See what the drive SMART temp data actually is
with a better SMART display, that drive looks like
its keeping the max temp ever seen in that value.
I already have HDD coolers, extra case fans, etc.
in this old full-tower ATX case (got it in 1998 I think).

The drive temp likely was fine.

Starting to look like a motherboard problem if that was
the motherboard that was in the system when the previous
250W PSU died. Likely it got killed by that failure.
I am going to try more SpinRite tonight.
So far, various disk utilites said no problems.

What does the full SMART scan show using
smartctl from a knoppix bootable CD ?

If thats fine too, and that motherboard was the one used
when the 250W PSU died, very likely that motherboard
got damaged by the over voltage that killed the Quantum.
 
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ANTant

Timeout may not necessarily mean the disk itself.
Is what common ? Bad caps isnt that uncommon.

Sorry, I meant the bad caps. Man, I have been a computer user since TI 99/4A and they sure don't make quality
computers anymore. :(

60gxp drives dying was so common that it generated a class action suit.
Thats just the power supply dying, not due to the rating.
Yeah, it isnt that uncommon for a PSU failure to
kill some of what is powered from it. It basically
over voltages some of the rails when dying.
Is that the same motherboard ? You may just be
seeing a failure of the motherboard now. Over voltages
dont necessarily kill things stone dead immediately.

Nope, that motherboard totally die (wouldn't boot up and had burned marks) and out of warranty. So, I got a
refurbished MSI KT4AV-L (Socket A/Socket 462; VIA KT400A) motherboard.

That wasnt the result of the class action suit.
The settlement only appears to apply to the 75GXP and the
settlement is the usual pathetic result in your case anyway.

Rats. :(

--------------------------------------
There are two categories of benefits with respect to each Qualifying Deskstar 75 GXP, and
each Class Member may request and is eligible to receive only one of these categories of
benefits. The categories are: (1) all Class Members who purchased a Qualifying Deskstar
75GXP and have experienced a ?disk drive failure? (an actual material problem with its
performance, as evidenced by a record either in (a) IBM?s Technical Support Center
database; (b) IBM?s Return Material Authorization database; or (c) the ?IBM 75GXP?
database maintained by the Sheller Ludwig & Badey law firm as of February 15, 2005) and
meet the other Settlement eligibility criteria are eligible to receive a check for $100;
and (2) all Class Members who purchased a Qualifying Deskstar 75GXP and have not
experienced disk drive failure are eligible to receive their choice of either 25 blank
CD-ROMs (with jewel cases) or a 15% Discount Certificate for a future purchase at IBM.com.
Could be a problem, but its academic anyway since the settlement is only for the 75GXP.

Were 60 and 75 models identical with the symptoms, failure rates, etc.? I assume 75 is the newer and bigger model.

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Rod Speed

(e-mail address removed) wrote
I don't think I can get the Seagate HDD's SMART sensor data
due to the VIA SATA Controller. Even SpinRite can't show it.

smartctl from a knoppix bootable CD should be able to show it.
The reason for this setup is because I have three internal
HDDs and two CD/DVD drives (one is a burner). Also,
using the onboard Promise controller seems to fail to boot
up my Windows XP 100% of the times (no idea why).

Maybe thats more evidence of the motherboard having
been zapped by the overvoltage seen when the 250W
PSU died and killed the Quantum hard drive, particularly
if that used to work before the PSU died.
It is like those external USB HDDs. No SMART sensor datas, etc.

Yeah, tho smartctl can usually see what
Everest cant see with internal drives.
Any ideas why controller does this?

I havent looked too closely at that, just use smartctl when necessary.
Maybe this setup is a bad idea but then
I didn't have this problem before last week!

Yeah, might be a workaround for a partially failed motherboard.
<end of my reply>
In alt.comp.periphs.hdd (e-mail address removed) wrote:
I need some other opinions from you HDD experts since I don't know
about HDD issues. I would think it is dying, but I can't seem to
get the symptoms:

The last week, I noticed my Windows XP Pro. SP2 (all updates; VIA
4in1 drivers) acting funny. I checked the event viewer logs and
saw:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 5/18/2006
Time: 10:00:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a paging
operation.For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 68 00 01 00 b6 00 ..h...?.
0008: 00 00 00 00 33 00 04 80 ....3..?
0010: 2d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 -.......
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 10 33 06 00 00 00 00 00 .3......
0030: ff ff ff ff 03 00 00 00 ????....
0038: 40 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 @.......
0040: ff 20 0a 12 80 03 20 40 ? ..?. @
0048: 00 00 01 00 0a 00 00 00 ........
0050: 00 00 00 00 a8 6f 3d 87 ....?o=?
0058: 00 00 00 00 d0 99 45 87 ....??E?
0060: 00 00 00 00 6e ff 93 0c ....n??.
0068: 2a 00 0c 93 ff 6e 00 00 *..??n..
0070: 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0078: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Event Type: Error
Event Source: viamraid
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/18/2006
Time: 10:00:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
The device, \Device\Scsi\viamraid1, did not respond within the
timeout period.For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 0f 00 10 00 01 00 6a 00 ......j.
0008: 00 00 00 00 09 00 04 c0 .......?
0010: 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 94 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0030: 00 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 ........


Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 5/17/2006
Time: 7:56:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a paging
operation.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 68 00 01 00 b6 00 ..h...?.
0008: 00 00 00 00 33 00 04 80 ....3..?
0010: 2d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 -.......
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 53 97 54 00 00 00 00 00 S?T.....
0030: ff ff ff ff 03 00 00 00 ????....
0038: 40 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 @.......
0040: ff 20 0a 12 80 03 20 40 ? ..?. @
0048: 00 00 01 00 0a 00 00 00 ........
0050: 00 00 00 00 68 46 55 87 ....hFU?
0058: 00 00 00 00 a0 d2 30 87 .... ?0?
0060: 00 00 00 00 16 55 e2 0a .....U?.
0068: 2a 00 0a e2 55 16 00 00 *..?U...
0070: 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0078: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Event Type: Error
Event Source: viamraid
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/17/2006
Time: 7:56:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
The device, \Device\Scsi\viamraid1, did not respond within the
timeout period.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 0f 00 10 00 01 00 6a 00 ......j.
0008: 00 00 00 00 09 00 04 c0 .......?
0010: 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8.......
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0030: 00 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 ........

Note: Yes, I have a paging file here.


HDD Tune v2.51 said on 5/18/2006 10:45 PM PDT:

HD Tune: IC35L040AVER07-0 Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData
Status (01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 60
65536 Ok (02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50
0 Ok (03) Spin Up Time 113 113 24
12910783 Ok (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0
784 Ok (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5
3 Ok (07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67
0 Ok (08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20
0 Ok (09) Power On Hours Count 99 99 0
13487 Ok (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60
0 Ok (0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0
740 Ok (C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50
784 Ok (C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50
784 Ok (C2) Temperature 98 98 0
1179704 Ok (C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0
3 Ok (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0
1 Ok (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0
0 Ok (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0
0 Ok

Power On Time : 13487
Health Status : Ok

Note: 05 was highlighted yellow.

--

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\>chkdsk d:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is AFA64-D.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Security descriptor verification completed.

10490412 KB total disk space.
5964844 KB in 9376 files.
3392 KB in 570 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
30828 KB in use by the system.
4096 KB occupied by the log file.
4491348 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
2622603 total allocation units on disk.
1122837 allocation units available on disk.

C:\>chkdsk g:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is AFA64-G.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Security descriptor verification completed.

9229308 KB total disk space.
2797308 KB in 6018 files.
2792 KB in 294 indexes.
4 KB in bad sectors.
27548 KB in use by the system.
4096 KB occupied by the log file.
6401656 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
2307327 total allocation units on disk.
1600414 allocation units available on disk.

Notes: This 4 KB was from last year (don't remember when exactly).
D and G: are two partitions on this
physical HDD.

My computer specifications can be found here:
http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt (primary
one).

I ran chkdsk a few times outside and inside of Windows and ran HD
Tune's error scan, but found no new problems. Speed looked good
too.

Any ideas? Maybe I am not testing enough? Thank you in advance.
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Rod Speed said:
(e-mail address removed) wrote
Make sure the temperature and power are fine now and run
the hard drive manufacturer's diagnostic and do what quite
a few call a low level format and see what happens to the
SMART data. That will lose the data on the drive tho.
That should recheck all the sectors on the drive with writing.
Very unlikely to no be powerful enough.
What does the drive SMART temperature show then ?

Well, it is cooler now (77 F degrees in my room; CPU: 61C/141F; Mobo: 42/107F). HD Tune says:
1. Quantum FireballP LM (15 GB) has no temperature sensors (probably too old)
2. IBM IC35L040AVER07-0 (41 GB) says 56C/132F
3. Seagate ST3120026A (120 GB) says 45C/113F

See what the drive SMART temp data actually is
with a better SMART display, that drive looks like
its keeping the max temp ever seen in that value.
The drive temp likely was fine.
Starting to look like a motherboard problem if that was
the motherboard that was in the system when the previous
250W PSU died. Likely it got killed by that failure.

Actually, that was my other machine (Enlight 340 watts PSU after 250 watts). This one (SeaSonic PSU) is using a
refurbished ASUS K8V SE Deluxe (had to send in my original one because its BIOS firmware upgrade failed even
though it said success!)..

What does the full SMART scan show using
smartctl from a knoppix bootable CD ?

Crap, I forgot to run that, but I doubt it will tell me about Seagate drive which is a prime suspect to me. Again,
I doubt I can get that information if SpinRite, HD Tune, etc. can't get the information.

If thats fine too, and that motherboard was the one used
when the 250W PSU died, very likely that motherboard
got damaged by the over voltage that killed the Quantum.

See http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt that I haev two desktops. Don't get both mixxed up.
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ANTant

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Rod Speed said:
(e-mail address removed) wrote
smartctl from a knoppix bootable CD should be able to show it.

Really. Are there any Windows programs or DOS programs that can do it too (if smartcl can do it)? I will have to
check that out. I hope v4.0.2 can do it. I don't have 5.x since it is not publicly released yet.

Maybe thats more evidence of the motherboard having
been zapped by the overvoltage seen when the 250W
PSU died and killed the Quantum hard drive, particularly
if that used to work before the PSU died.

Uhh, that's the other computer. :) You're getting confused with my two machines:
http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt ...

Yeah, tho smartctl can usually see what
Everest cant see with internal drives.

Interesting. I wonder why??

I havent looked too closely at that, just use smartctl when necessary.
OK.
Yeah, might be a workaround for a partially failed motherboard.
<end of mine too>

:) [again end of reply]

In alt.comp.periphs.hdd (e-mail address removed) wrote:
I need some other opinions from you HDD experts since I don't know
about HDD issues. I would think it is dying, but I can't seem to
get the symptoms:

The last week, I noticed my Windows XP Pro. SP2 (all updates; VIA
4in1 drivers) acting funny. I checked the event viewer logs and
saw:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 5/18/2006
Time: 10:00:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a paging
operation.For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 68 00 01 00 b6 00 ..h...?.
0008: 00 00 00 00 33 00 04 80 ....3..?
0010: 2d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 -.......
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 10 33 06 00 00 00 00 00 .3......
0030: ff ff ff ff 03 00 00 00 ????....
0038: 40 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 @.......
0040: ff 20 0a 12 80 03 20 40 ? ..?. @
0048: 00 00 01 00 0a 00 00 00 ........
0050: 00 00 00 00 a8 6f 3d 87 ....?o=?
0058: 00 00 00 00 d0 99 45 87 ....??E?
0060: 00 00 00 00 6e ff 93 0c ....n??.
0068: 2a 00 0c 93 ff 6e 00 00 *..??n..
0070: 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0078: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Event Type: Error
Event Source: viamraid
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/18/2006
Time: 10:00:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
The device, \Device\Scsi\viamraid1, did not respond within the
timeout period.For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 0f 00 10 00 01 00 6a 00 ......j.
0008: 00 00 00 00 09 00 04 c0 .......?
0010: 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 94 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0030: 00 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 ........


Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 5/17/2006
Time: 7:56:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a paging
operation.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 68 00 01 00 b6 00 ..h...?.
0008: 00 00 00 00 33 00 04 80 ....3..?
0010: 2d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 -.......
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 53 97 54 00 00 00 00 00 S?T.....
0030: ff ff ff ff 03 00 00 00 ????....
0038: 40 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 @.......
0040: ff 20 0a 12 80 03 20 40 ? ..?. @
0048: 00 00 01 00 0a 00 00 00 ........
0050: 00 00 00 00 68 46 55 87 ....hFU?
0058: 00 00 00 00 a0 d2 30 87 .... ?0?
0060: 00 00 00 00 16 55 e2 0a .....U?.
0068: 2a 00 0a e2 55 16 00 00 *..?U...
0070: 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0078: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Event Type: Error
Event Source: viamraid
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/17/2006
Time: 7:56:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
The device, \Device\Scsi\viamraid1, did not respond within the
timeout period.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 0f 00 10 00 01 00 6a 00 ......j.
0008: 00 00 00 00 09 00 04 c0 .......?
0010: 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8.......
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0030: 00 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 ........

Note: Yes, I have a paging file here.


HDD Tune v2.51 said on 5/18/2006 10:45 PM PDT:

HD Tune: IC35L040AVER07-0 Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData
Status (01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 60
65536 Ok (02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50
0 Ok (03) Spin Up Time 113 113 24
12910783 Ok (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0
784 Ok (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5
3 Ok (07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67
0 Ok (08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20
0 Ok (09) Power On Hours Count 99 99 0
13487 Ok (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60
0 Ok (0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0
740 Ok (C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50
784 Ok (C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50
784 Ok (C2) Temperature 98 98 0
1179704 Ok (C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0
3 Ok (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0
1 Ok (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0
0 Ok (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0
0 Ok

Power On Time : 13487
Health Status : Ok

Note: 05 was highlighted yellow.

--

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\>chkdsk d:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is AFA64-D.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Security descriptor verification completed.

10490412 KB total disk space.
5964844 KB in 9376 files.
3392 KB in 570 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
30828 KB in use by the system.
4096 KB occupied by the log file.
4491348 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
2622603 total allocation units on disk.
1122837 allocation units available on disk.

C:\>chkdsk g:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is AFA64-G.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Security descriptor verification completed.

9229308 KB total disk space.
2797308 KB in 6018 files.
2792 KB in 294 indexes.
4 KB in bad sectors.
27548 KB in use by the system.
4096 KB occupied by the log file.
6401656 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
2307327 total allocation units on disk.
1600414 allocation units available on disk.

Notes: This 4 KB was from last year (don't remember when exactly).
D and G: are two partitions on this
physical HDD.

My computer specifications can be found here:
http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt (primary
one).

I ran chkdsk a few times outside and inside of Windows and ran HD
Tune's error scan, but found no new problems. Speed looked good
too.

Any ideas? Maybe I am not testing enough? Thank you in advance.
--
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R

Rod Speed

(e-mail address removed) wrote
Sorry, I meant the bad caps. Man, I have been a computer user since
TI 99/4A and they sure don't make quality computers anymore. :(

It was a serious problem there for a while, basically some massive
brain fart by someone in taiwan that affected a hell of a lot of electronics.

Not just motherboards, I've seen it with Humax satellite TV STBs, seen
with most of the Humaxes I know about, just one cap in the power supply.
Nope, that motherboard totally die (wouldn't boot up and had burned
marks) and out of warranty. So, I got a refurbished MSI KT4AV-L
(Socket A/Socket 462; VIA KT400A) motherboard.

Bugger, there goes that theory.

Corse its possible that motherboard always did have a fault and
thats why it was refurbished and they never did resolve it properly.

Yeah, the only winners from class action suits are the legal parasites.
--------------------------------------
There are two categories of benefits with respect to each Qualifying
Deskstar 75 GXP, and each Class Member may request and is eligible
to receive only one of these categories of benefits. The categories
are: (1) all Class Members who purchased a Qualifying Deskstar 75GXP
and have experienced a ?disk drive failure? (an actual material
problem with its performance, as evidenced by a record either in (a)
IBM?s Technical Support Center database; (b) IBM?s Return Material
Authorization database; or (c) the ?IBM 75GXP? database maintained
by the Sheller Ludwig & Badey law firm as of February 15, 2005) and
meet the other Settlement eligibility criteria are eligible to
receive a check for $100; and (2) all Class Members who purchased a
Qualifying Deskstar 75GXP and have not experienced disk drive
failure are eligible to receive their choice of either 25 blank
CD-ROMs (with jewel cases) or a 15% Discount Certificate for a
future purchase at IBM.com. Could be a problem, but its academic anyway
since the settlement is only for the 75GXP.
Were 60 and 75 models identical with the symptoms,
Yes.

failure rates, etc.?

Nope, the 60gxp failure rate wasnt as
utterly obscene as was seen with the 75gxp.
I assume 75 is the newer and bigger model.

Nope, the reverse.
 
R

Rod Speed

(e-mail address removed) wrote
Well, it is cooler now (77 F degrees in my room;
CPU: 61C/141F;
Mobo: 42/107F).
HD Tune says:
1. Quantum FireballP LM (15 GB) has no temperature sensors (probably too old)

Yep, they never had them.
2. IBM IC35L040AVER07-0 (41 GB) says 56C/132F

Urk thats very high with that room temp.
3. Seagate ST3120026A (120 GB) says 45C/113F

Thats a bit on the high side with that room temp too,
bet its pretty obscene with a room temp of say 30C/86F

Less clear on that now tho.
Actually, that was my other machine (Enlight 340 watts PSU after 250
watts). This one (SeaSonic PSU) is using a refurbished ASUS K8V SE
Deluxe (had to send in my original one because its BIOS firmware
upgrade failed even though it said success!)..
OK.
Crap, I forgot to run that, but I doubt it will tell me about Seagate
drive which is a prime suspect to me. Again, I doubt I can get that
information if SpinRite, HD Tune, etc. can't get the information.

I havent seen smartctl fail yet, be interesting to see.
See http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt
that I haev two desktops. Don't get both mixxed up. :)

Yeah, I now realise that thats the one the ants use |-)
 
R

Rod Speed

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Rod Speed



Really. Are there any Windows programs or DOS programs that can do it
too (if smartcl can do it)? I will have to check that out. I hope
v4.0.2 can do it. I don't have 5.x since it is not publicly released
yet.




Uhh, that's the other computer. :) You're getting confused with my
two machines:
http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt ...
Interesting. I wonder why??

Its always been the controller the drive is on.
I havent looked too closely at that, just use smartctl when
necessary.
Yeah, might be a workaround for a partially failed motherboard.
<end of mine too>

:) [again end of reply]

Ditto in spades |-)
In alt.comp.periphs.hdd (e-mail address removed) wrote:
I need some other opinions from you HDD experts since I don't
know about HDD issues. I would think it is dying, but I can't
seem to get the symptoms:

The last week, I noticed my Windows XP Pro. SP2 (all updates; VIA
4in1 drivers) acting funny. I checked the event viewer logs and
saw:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 5/18/2006
Time: 10:00:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a
paging operation.For more information, see Help and Support
Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 68 00 01 00 b6 00 ..h...?.
0008: 00 00 00 00 33 00 04 80 ....3..?
0010: 2d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 -.......
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 10 33 06 00 00 00 00 00 .3......
0030: ff ff ff ff 03 00 00 00 ????....
0038: 40 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 @.......
0040: ff 20 0a 12 80 03 20 40 ? ..?. @
0048: 00 00 01 00 0a 00 00 00 ........
0050: 00 00 00 00 a8 6f 3d 87 ....?o=?
0058: 00 00 00 00 d0 99 45 87 ....??E?
0060: 00 00 00 00 6e ff 93 0c ....n??.
0068: 2a 00 0c 93 ff 6e 00 00 *..??n..
0070: 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0078: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Event Type: Error
Event Source: viamraid
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/18/2006
Time: 10:00:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
The device, \Device\Scsi\viamraid1, did not respond within the
timeout period.For more information, see Help and Support Center
at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 0f 00 10 00 01 00 6a 00 ......j.
0008: 00 00 00 00 09 00 04 c0 .......?
0010: 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 94 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0030: 00 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 ........


Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 5/17/2006
Time: 7:56:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a
paging operation.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 68 00 01 00 b6 00 ..h...?.
0008: 00 00 00 00 33 00 04 80 ....3..?
0010: 2d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 -.......
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 53 97 54 00 00 00 00 00 S?T.....
0030: ff ff ff ff 03 00 00 00 ????....
0038: 40 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 @.......
0040: ff 20 0a 12 80 03 20 40 ? ..?. @
0048: 00 00 01 00 0a 00 00 00 ........
0050: 00 00 00 00 68 46 55 87 ....hFU?
0058: 00 00 00 00 a0 d2 30 87 .... ?0?
0060: 00 00 00 00 16 55 e2 0a .....U?.
0068: 2a 00 0a e2 55 16 00 00 *..?U...
0070: 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0078: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Event Type: Error
Event Source: viamraid
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/17/2006
Time: 7:56:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
The device, \Device\Scsi\viamraid1, did not respond within the
timeout period.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 0f 00 10 00 01 00 6a 00 ......j.
0008: 00 00 00 00 09 00 04 c0 .......?
0010: 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8.......
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0030: 00 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 ........

Note: Yes, I have a paging file here.


HDD Tune v2.51 said on 5/18/2006 10:45 PM PDT:

HD Tune: IC35L040AVER07-0 Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData
Status (01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 60
65536 Ok (02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50
0 Ok (03) Spin Up Time 113 113 24
12910783 Ok (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0
784 Ok (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5
3 Ok (07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67
0 Ok (08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20
0 Ok (09) Power On Hours Count 99 99 0
13487 Ok (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60
0 Ok (0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0
740 Ok (C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50
784 Ok (C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50
784 Ok (C2) Temperature 98 98 0
1179704 Ok (C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0
3 Ok (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0
1 Ok (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0
0 Ok (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0
0 Ok

Power On Time : 13487
Health Status : Ok

Note: 05 was highlighted yellow.

--

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\>chkdsk d:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is AFA64-D.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Security descriptor verification completed.

10490412 KB total disk space.
5964844 KB in 9376 files.
3392 KB in 570 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
30828 KB in use by the system.
4096 KB occupied by the log file.
4491348 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
2622603 total allocation units on disk.
1122837 allocation units available on disk.

C:\>chkdsk g:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is AFA64-G.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Security descriptor verification completed.

9229308 KB total disk space.
2797308 KB in 6018 files.
2792 KB in 294 indexes.
4 KB in bad sectors.
27548 KB in use by the system.
4096 KB occupied by the log file.
6401656 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
2307327 total allocation units on disk.
1600414 allocation units available on disk.

Notes: This 4 KB was from last year (don't remember when
exactly). D and G: are two partitions on this
physical HDD.

My computer specifications can be found here:
http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt (primary
one).

I ran chkdsk a few times outside and inside of Windows and ran HD
Tune's error scan, but found no new problems. Speed looked good
too.

Any ideas? Maybe I am not testing enough? Thank you in advance.
o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL):
http://aqfl.net
\ _ / Please remove ANT if replying by
e-mail. ( )
 
A

ANTant

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Rod Speed said:
(e-mail address removed) wrote
Yep, they never had them.
Urk thats very high with that room temp.
Thats a bit on the high side with that room temp too,
bet its pretty obscene with a room temp of say 30C/86F

Yeah, it's hard to cool this upstair room (heat rises too). I can't seem to add more cooling unless I want to be
crazy to do water/liquid cooling. :) But that won't happen. I am not that crazy nor do I want to maintain the
computers that often.

Less clear on that now tho.
I havent seen smartctl fail yet, be interesting to see.
Yeah, I now realise that thats the one the ants use |-)

Heh.
--
"Be thine enemy an ant, see in him an elephant." --Turkish Proverb
/\___/\
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