Installation of New IDE Hard Disk Drive

[Ian Brown]

I've just ordered a new 200GB IDE hard disk drive to replace an aging 80GB
which has been giving me problems (see post below).

My question is simple. How Can I format the full 200GB?

My copy of Microsoft Windows XP Professional is a very earlier version and
doesn't include luxuries like SP1 or SP2.

I've heard that there is a way of creating a new disc myself which can
incorporate the Service Packs. I think it's called slipstreaming, or
something like that. I did try this once but it didn't work. When tried a
re-install there were problems with the disk I had created. I don't know
why there were problems I followed the instructions exactly.

The disk I've ordered is a Samsung. On their web site
http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/utilities/index.htm there is a
Disk Manager utility. Do you think that this would enable me to format the
whole 200GB using the NTFS filing system?

Thank you

Ian.

 

[Jerry]

One, your BIOS must support harddrives larger than 137Gb. If necessary check
the motherboard's web site and update the BIOS.

Two, you must install XP w/SP1 to see that larger drive. (Obviously SP2 will
work also.) See KB303013 on enabling 48bit LBA.

Three, slipstream the original XP CD with the SP2 download using
AutoStreamer 1.0.3.3 from here
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showforum=89

Have fun.

 

[Kerry Brown]

I've just ordered a new 200GB IDE hard disk drive to replace an aging 80GB
which has been giving me problems (see post below).

My question is simple. How Can I format the full 200GB?

My copy of Microsoft Windows XP Professional is a very earlier version and
doesn't include luxuries like SP1 or SP2.

I've heard that there is a way of creating a new disc myself which can
incorporate the Service Packs. I think it's called slipstreaming, or
something like that. I did try this once but it didn't work. When tried
a re-install there were problems with the disk I had created. I don't
know why there were problems I followed the instructions exactly.

The disk I've ordered is a Samsung. On their web site
http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/utilities/index.htm there is
a Disk Manager utility. Do you think that this would enable me to format
the whole 200GB using the NTFS filing system?

The Disk Manager utility can clone the old drive to the new one as long as
your motherboard supports 48 bit LBA. If the motherboard does not support 48
bit LBA then I don't recommend proceeding any further. The drive overlay
software you would need to use causes many problems with XP. Once the disk
is cloned do not boot until the old drive is removed from the system and the
new drive is the primary master. If you had SP1 or SP2 installed on the old
drive everything should work fine. Once you have booted successfully from
the new drive the old drive can be re-installed if you want. If your old
drive didn't have SP1 or SP2 installed then you would need some 3rd party
software which I don't recommend. You would be much better off to install
SP1 or SP2 before cloning the new drive

Kerry

 

[Brian A.]

What did you use to create a slipstreamed CD? The best IMO is AutoStreamer
from Neowin:
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=223562

Nice tut with pixs:
http://www.simplyguides.net/guides/using_autostreamer/using_autostreamer.html

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How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

 

[Ian Brown]

Yes my BIOS will support drives larger than 137GB. I have 1 x 80GB and 1 x
200GB drive at the moment.

I knew I would have to install SP1 or SP2, but unless my install CD contains
these Service Packs the new drive will not be fully formatted.

I'm gonna try AutoStreamer and see if I can make a new install CD. My last
attempt at this failed but I didn't use a utility like AutoStreamer.

Thanks

Ian.

 

[Ian Brown]

The Disk Manager utility can clone the old drive to the new one as long as
your motherboard supports 48 bit LBA. If the motherboard does not support
48 bit LBA then I don't recommend proceeding any further. The drive
overlay software you would need to use causes many problems with XP. Once
the disk is cloned do not boot until the old drive is removed from the
system and the new drive is the primary master. If you had SP1 or SP2
installed on the old drive everything should work fine. Once you have
booted successfully from the new drive the old drive can be re-installed
if you want. If your old drive didn't have SP1 or SP2 installed then you
would need some 3rd party software which I don't recommend. You would be
much better off to install SP1 or SP2 before cloning the new drive

Kerry

Kerry

Thanks for the information. Your suggestion sounds to complicated for me to
attempt, I'm only a novice after all. I have no idea if my motherboard
supports '48 bit LBA', but I won't bother with the overlay software if it is
likely to cause problems with XP.

I think I'll try to slipstream a new install disc which will have SP2, and
do a fresh re-install on the nice new drive (which I'm expecting to be
delivered today). That's if I can create a new slipstreamed disc. Of
course I won't know if the new disc works until I try the re-install )
Hmm.

Thank you

Ian.

 

[Ian Brown]

Brian

Thanks for the second link, I already had the first. It shows me how to
create a slipstreamed disc in nice easy steps. Although I followed
instruction before and it didn't work, of course I didn't use AutoStreamer.
Perhaps it will work this time.

Thank you

Ian.

 

[Kerry Brown]

Kerry

Thanks for the information. Your suggestion sounds to complicated for me
to attempt, I'm only a novice after all. I have no idea if my motherboard
supports '48 bit LBA', but I won't bother with the overlay software if it
is likely to cause problems with XP.

I think I'll try to slipstream a new install disc which will have SP2, and
do a fresh re-install on the nice new drive (which I'm expecting to be
delivered today). That's if I can create a new slipstreamed disc. Of
course I won't know if the new disc works until I try the re-install )
Hmm.

Ian

48 bit LBA is used by drives larger than 137 GB. If you already have a 200
GB drive then your motherboard uses 48 bit LBA. If your current XP install
is working fine you can use the Samsung Disk Manager software to clone the
old drive to the new drive. There is no need to do a clean install unless
your current configuration is not working right or you want to change the
configuration for some reason. It is worthwhile to create the XP CD
slipstreamed with SP2 in any case. It can be used for repairs if needed.

Kerry

 

[S. Taylor]

The manufacturer's utilities should be able, but thier's no to be sure,
unless you ask them.

As an alternate, you can install the new hdd as a second drive, and use your
current version of
xp (i'm assuming you're using xp, since this is an xp ng) to setup the
drive.