IDE+Ethernet controller?

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Peter Hucker

Peter Hucker said:
Stop using gaming websites as your source. Read the ATA standards.

I read it on Maxtor.
128GB. 100 controllers always screw up when you fill the drive up.
Clueless. Intel never supported ATA-133, and supports LBA-48 on all ICH IDE.

Who mentioned Intel? I've never used their shite.
You are quickly becoming the resident troll. Stop posting so much crap, and
listen to the experts for a change.

You have just made yourself one by starting pointless insults. How many killfiles you in?


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Folkert Rienstra

Fabien LE LEZ said:
BTW, what's the difference between 100 and 133?

33 MB/s difference?
I mean, is there a situation where a 133 MBps IDE bus speed really
makes any program faster?

No. Neither did any other increase in busspeed.

Why didn't you ask this question when we went from PIO-0 to PIO-1 to PIO-2 to ...
to MW-DMA-0 to DMA-1 to ..... to Ultra DMA mode 2 ... etc.

IDE Bus speed is increased every time that 2 drives on a channel can fill that channel.
 
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Folkert Rienstra

Peter Hucker said:
Not what I read on websites when it came out.

And obviously the websites are correct and the standard is trash.

Live with parrots, become a parrot.
And every time I've bought a 133 controller, it'sa taken large drives over 128GB.
100 controllers always screw up when you fill the drive up.

Utterly clueless.
 
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John Turco

Folkert said:
Obviously that depends on what you think it means.
To most people all it means is that the maximum IDE bus speed is 100 or 133 MB/s.

What do you think that it means?


Actually, ATA-6 defines LBA-48 (end 2000) and ATA-7 defines
UDMA 133 (begin 2002). So there is at least a year between them.


Let's put that around: why should that be impossible?


Hello, Folkert:

Peter Hucker's cutesy signature lines are far more interesting, than
any of his "contributions" to this newsgroup; that's not really saying
anything, alas.


Cordially,
John Turco <[email protected]>
 
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Peter Hucker

And obviously the websites are correct and the standard is trash.

Maxtor lied?
Live with parrots, become a parrot.

Cheap (oh dear) insults will get you nowhere you childish moron.
Utterly clueless.

Utterly experience. What happened happened. Exceed 128GB, overwrites the first sector again.



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Acupuncturists do it with a small prick.
 
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Peter Hucker

Hello, Folkert:

Peter Hucker's cutesy signature lines are far more interesting, than
any of his "contributions" to this newsgroup; that's not really saying
anything, alas.

Unusual, normally I get more complaints about the signatures. Wait till you spot a dodgy/rude/libellous/un-politically-correct/exceeding 4 lines one.



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"The Ten Commandments contain 297 words.
The Bill of Rights is stated in 463 words.
Lincoln's Gettysburg Address contains 266 words.
A recent federal directive to regulate the price of cabbage contains 26,911 words." -- Atlanta Journal
 
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J. Clarke

Peter said:
Unusual, normally I get more complaints about the signatures.  Wait till
you spot a dodgy/rude/libellous/un-politically-correct/exceeding 4 lines
one.



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"The Ten Commandments contain 297 words.
The Bill of Rights is stated in 463 words.
Lincoln's Gettysburg Address contains 266 words.
A recent federal directive to regulate the price of cabbage contains
26,911 words." -- Atlanta Journal

Since the sig is under discussion, I'm of the opinion that we need a
Constitutional Amendment to the effect that all elected officials _must_
carry with them at all times a copy of the US Code and the Code of Federal
Regulations, printed on 20 pound paper in 12 point Times Roman, with no
electronic equivalents or offloading to flunkies allowed. Even better
would be that they be required to recite the whole thing verbatim from
memory before being allowed to run for a second term.
 
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Peter Hucker

Since the sig is under discussion, I'm of the opinion that we need a
Constitutional Amendment to the effect that all elected officials _must_
carry with them at all times a copy of the US Code and the Code of Federal
Regulations, printed on 20 pound paper in 12 point Times Roman,

That'll be why Schwarzenegger is applying (did he succeed?)
with no
electronic equivalents or offloading to flunkies allowed. Even better
would be that they be required to recite the whole thing verbatim from
memory before being allowed to run for a second term.



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It's not what you wear. It's how you take it off.
 
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Peter Hucker

Peter Hucker said:
thought of it as a "struggling squeaking noise", and assumed imminent death.
It sounds to me like it is having difficulty doing something - although
there is no delay in reading data at this point, and the PC appears happy.
quiet, and don't let any heat out.

I think this works for many people..

People who live in Antarctica.



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rstlne

Peter Hucker said:
You have calmed my nerves slightly - is that what mine are doing? I
thought of it as a "struggling squeaking noise", and assumed imminent death.
It sounds to me like it is having difficulty doing something - although
there is no delay in reading data at this point, and the PC appears happy.
And very unreliable! Great idea - shove them in sponge to make them
quiet, and don't let any heat out.
I think this works for many people..
 
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rstlne

I think this works for many people..
People who live in Antarctica.
I have seen it where they have removed the HD from the case, fed the wires
through the back of the pc and then put it in a box, stack'd foam on top and
bottom and then taped the box up..
Fairly sure it wasnt in Antarctica.. I dont think it's a wise move but I
think that you could def do it if you bought the right kind of drives and
took care to make sure that it wasnt too hot.
 
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J. Clarke

rstlne said:
I have seen it where they have removed the HD from the case, fed the wires
through the back of the pc and then put it in a box, stack'd foam on top
and bottom and then taped the box up..
Fairly sure it wasnt in Antarctica.. I dont think it's a wise move but I
think that you could def do it if you bought the right kind of drives and
took care to make sure that it wasnt too hot.

Just remember, pick any brand of drive and someone will claim that in his
experience it is horribly unreliable. Simple fact is they all need clean
power, proper mounting, and adequate airflow.
 
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Folkert Rienstra

Peter Hucker said:
It thought it also meant you can't use anything over 128GB - so how do we know if the board does or not?

We don't if they don't say.
Maxtor invented ATA-133, and in it included the 48-bit model.

Nope. ATA133 is not a standard. It is part of a standard. So is 48-bit LBA.

LBA-48 was proposed to the ATA comittee for inclusion to the ATA/ATAPI-6 standard
by Pete McLean in September 2000.
Additions to ATA/ATAPI-7 for Ultra DMA mode 6 was proposed by Mark Evans in
September 2001
Both gentlemen happen to work for Maxtor, although I think mister Evans happened to
work for Quantum before that and Maxtor took over Quantum.
It seems people are misadvertising again.

Yes, indeed you are.
As above, ATA-133 as specified by Maxtor states it can take large drives.
Nope.


As above, ATA-133 as specified by Maxtor states it can take large drives.

Clueless. Parrot lover, parrot brain.
 
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Eric Gisin

Peter Hucker said:
I read it on Maxtor.

Nonsense. Learn to interpret what you read.
IDE.

Who mentioned Intel? I've never used their shite.

Retard. It's called a logical argument.
You have just made yourself one by starting pointless insults. How many
killfiles you in?

I assure you no one killfiles the experts.

Calling an idiot a troll is not pointless. How many others have called you an
idiot?
 
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Peter Hucker

Peter Hucker said:
Nonsense. Learn to interpret what you read.

I read it just fine. Since then they must have seperated the two. People don't stick to standards.
Retard. It's called a logical argument.

Using irrelevant items.
killfiles you in?

I assure you no one killfiles the experts.

Ludmouthed know it alls would be more appropriate. Your ego is inflated to 57psi and will soon burst.
Calling an idiot a troll is not pointless. How many others have called you an
idiot?

Only one, and 90% of the people in that group have him killfiled.


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unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck;more;yes;fsck;fsck;fsck;umount;sleep
 
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Eric Gisin

Peter Hucker said:
I read it just fine. Since then they must have seperated the two. People don't stick to standards.
What bullshit. Typical troll response when they lose an argument.

You claim that UDMA-133 is somehow tied to LBA-48, but cannot give any reason
why. You claim there is a web page to back this up, but cannot give the URL.

You are just another ****ing retard who figured out how to post to usenet. You
have never posted anything useful to this newsgroup. Go back to the kiddie
gamer groups.
 
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Peter Hucker

Peter Hucker said:
What bullshit. Typical troll response when they lose an argument.

You claim that UDMA-133 is somehow tied to LBA-48, but cannot give any reason
why. You claim there is a web page to back this up, but cannot give the URL.

You are just another ****ing retard who figured out how to post to usenet. You
have never posted anything useful to this newsgroup. Go back to the kiddie
gamer groups.

It's always amusing to see people write like that, claiming that someone else is the retard! Can you write a sentence without losing your temper?

When it first came out, Maxtor made a big song and dance about how they had invented it - the 133 speed and the 48 bit addressing - it was all in one paper. And no I am not a sad little speccy git like you that sits with his face in the screen all day eating only pizza and beer and remembers every single URL he visited 3 years ago.



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