IDE+Ethernet controller?

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Fabien LE LEZ

Yes. Damn thing got too hot even with it's cover off, so I modified
it to use two Zalman CPU water heatsinks connected to my reserator.

Well, if you're rich enough, you can always buy a fanless PSU:

<http://www.silentmaxx.net/catalog/ps_prosilence_comparison.php>
<http://www.pcsilent.de/en_group_yesico_power_supplies.asp>

Zalman also offers quiet PSUs, but only up to 400W (which may not be
enough for you), and not perfectly silent.
<http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/code_list.asp?code=015>
 
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Peter Hucker


Well considering I have two zalman cpu heatsinks in there at 30 quid each, I may aswell.....

BLOODY HELL they are expensive!!! Thye shouldn't cost that.
Zalman also offers quiet PSUs, but only up to 400W (which may not be
enough for you), and not perfectly silent.
<http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/code_list.asp?code=015>

PERFECTION ONLY!

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TV takes over your life when you could be doing useful things like smoking crack and stealing car stereos.
 
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Peter Hucker

Is your water pump perfectly silent?

Put it this way, I can only hear it if I put my ear against it. The pump is underwater, inside the radiator, no noise gets out.


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What happens if you install windows 98 on a system with 2 processors?
It crashes twice.
 
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Peter Hucker

BTW, do all modern motherboards (i.e. motherboard that you can buy
right now) support 48 bit hard drive?

I see a lot (for example my Gigabyte dual athlon GA-7Dpxdw+) that have ATA-100! Surely everything should be 133 by now? Does this mean it won't do over 128GB? It is happy with a 160GB, but it may just corrupt everything when you write past 128GB. Also, I've seen drives that are 160GB aTA-100 - how is this possible?



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In the beginning, there was nothing, which exploded.
 
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Eric Gisin

ATA-6 is a standard, which defines but does not require UDMA-133 and LBA-48.

I see a lot (for example my Gigabyte dual athlon GA-7Dpxdw+) that have
ATA-100! Surely everything should be 133 by now? Does this mean it won't do
over 128GB? It is happy with a 160GB, but it may just corrupt everything when
you write past 128GB. Also, I've seen drives that are 160GB aTA-100 - how is
this possible?
 
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CJT

Peter said:
I see a lot (for example my Gigabyte dual athlon GA-7Dpxdw+) that have
ATA-100! Surely everything should be 133 by now? Does this mean it
won't do over 128GB? It is happy with a 160GB, but it may just corrupt
everything when you write past 128GB. Also, I've seen drives that are
160GB aTA-100 - how is this possible?

Don't confuse speed with addressing.
 
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Peter Hucker

Don't confuse speed with addressing.

So it's half an ATA133 standard? Will my board take 160s on the regular (non promise raid) controller?



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Peter Hucker

So when a board says ATA-133 or ATA-100, this is meaningless?

ATA-6 is a standard, which defines but does not require UDMA-133 and LBA-48.

I see a lot (for example my Gigabyte dual athlon GA-7Dpxdw+) that have
ATA-100! Surely everything should be 133 by now? Does this mean it won't do
over 128GB? It is happy with a 160GB, but it may just corrupt everything when
you write past 128GB. Also, I've seen drives that are 160GB aTA-100 - how is
this possible?



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Condoms should be used on every conceivable occasion.
 
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Fabien LE LEZ

Will my board take 160s on the regular (non promise raid) controller?

You'll have to look in your manual for "48-bit", not the speed (133 vs
100).
Besides, I've got a few low-end recent PCs at work, and I still wonder
if they support 48-bit: I've plugged a Western Digital 250 GB (cut in
three NTFS partitions) on one of them, and the 3 partitions are well
recognized by Linux (which I used to read the files that were on it),
but not at all by Windows 2000 SP4 (the disk manager only sees one 128
GB partition).
 
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Peter Hucker

You'll have to look in your manual for "48-bit", not the speed (133 vs
100).
Besides, I've got a few low-end recent PCs at work, and I still wonder
if they support 48-bit: I've plugged a Western Digital 250 GB (cut in
three NTFS partitions) on one of them, and the 3 partitions are well
recognized by Linux (which I used to read the files that were on it),
but not at all by Windows 2000 SP4 (the disk manager only sees one 128
GB partition).

I've had some old controllers report the disk as smaller than it is, some write over the wrong part fo the disk when they exceed 128GB, and some just don't work at all.


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Mary had a little skirt
With slits right up the sides
And everytime she crossed her legs
The boys could see her thighs

Mary had another skirt
With a slit right up the front
She never wore that one...
 
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Folkert Rienstra

Peter Hucker said:
So when a board says ATA-133 or ATA-100, this is meaningless?

Obviously that depends on what you think it means.
To most people all it means is that the maximum IDE bus speed is 100 or 133 MB/s.

What do you think that it means?

Actually, ATA-6 defines LBA-48 (end 2000) and ATA-7 defines
UDMA 133 (begin 2002). So there is at least a year between them.

Let's put that around: why should that be impossible?
 
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Peter Hucker

Obviously that depends on what you think it means.
To most people all it means is that the maximum IDE bus speed is 100 or 133 MB/s.

What do you think that it means?

It thought it also meant you can;t use anything over 128GB - so how do we know if the board does or not?

Maxtor invented ATA-133, and in it included the 48-bit model. It seems people are misadvertising again.
Actually, ATA-6 defines LBA-48 (end 2000) and ATA-7 defines
UDMA 133 (begin 2002). So there is at least a year between them.

As above, ATA-133 as specified by Maxtor states it can take large drives.
Let's put that around: why should that be impossible?

As above, ATA-133 as specified by Maxtor states it can take large drives.


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The best parliament is a well-hung one?
 
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Fabien LE LEZ

Obviously that depends on what you think it means.
To most people all it means is that the maximum IDE bus speed is 100 or 133 MB/s.

BTW, what's the difference between 100 and 133?
I mean, is there a situation where a 133 MBps IDE bus speed really
makes any program faster?
 
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Peter Hucker

BTW, what's the difference between 100 and 133?
I mean, is there a situation where a 133 MBps IDE bus speed really
makes any program faster?

No idea, but I've seen drives that quote an internal transfer speed of 95MB/s, so it's almost required so as not to limit the drive's ability.

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I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder.
 
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Eric Gisin

Peter Hucker said:
It thought it also meant you can;t use anything over 128GB - so how do we know if the board does or not?

Maxtor invented ATA-133, and in it included the 48-bit model. It seems
people are misadvertising again.Nonsense. Both were independently invented, then included in ATA-6, the
standard.
 
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Peter Hucker

Peter Hucker said:
people are misadvertising again.
Nonsense. Both were independently invented, then included in ATA-6, the
standard.

Not what I read on websites when it came out.

And every time I've bought a 133 controller, it'sa taken large drives over 128GB. 100 controllers always screw up when you fill the drive up.

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Eric Gisin

Peter Hucker said:
Not what I read on websites when it came out.

Stop using gaming websites as your source. Read the ATA standards.
And every time I've bought a 133 controller, it'sa taken large drives over
128GB. 100 controllers always screw up when you fill the drive up.Clueless. Intel never supported ATA-133, and supports LBA-48 on all ICH IDE.

You are quickly becoming the resident troll. Stop posting so much crap, and
listen to the experts for a change.
 

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