How to turn off Avast spam sig?

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freda

How does one turn off that dang spam signature that Avast sends out with
every post & email?
 
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty

How does one turn off that dang spam signature that Avast sends out with
every post & email?

See your multi-posted thread in alt.comp.virus

Please learn to cross-post (if necessary) rather than multi-post. Thanks
for your consideration.
 
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freda

See your multi-posted thread in alt.comp.virus

Please learn to cross-post (if necessary) rather than multi-post. Thanks
for your consideration.

Unfortunately, my isp has the idiotic notion that people should never
crosspost, so they do not send through any crossposts. According to
their "official" policy they allow crossposts to only 2 groups. I have
never had any success in crossposting to but a single group.

You are #1383 to have pointed out my multi-posting. The official
certificate regarding your induction into the "Get A Life Club" is in
the mail.
 
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1PW

Unfortunately, my isp has the idiotic notion that people should never
crosspost, so they do not send through any crossposts. According to
their "official" policy they allow crossposts to only 2 groups. I have
never had any success in crossposting to but a single group.

You are #1383 to have pointed out my multi-posting. The official
certificate regarding your induction into the "Get A Life Club" is in
the mail.

Hello Freda:

OK! You get 10 points for creativity. How many points do we get if we
suggest another ISP? I /think/ we keep score somewhere. :)

BTW - I saw one of your posts where the headers /were/ included and
IMHO, they aren't that objectionable.

If it's Astraweb that's denying your crossposts, perhaps a notice in
your posts will help shield you from us NNTP police cadet wannabes. My
$0.02USD.

Best wishes,

Pete
 
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VanguardLH

Unfortunately, my isp has the idiotic notion that people should never
crosspost, so they do not send through any crossposts. According to
their "official" policy they allow crossposts to only 2 groups. I
have never had any success in crossposting to but a single group.

Got a link to that official policy? They don't say anything about it at
their web site.

Since when did Astraweb, the NSP (newsgroups service provider) that you
use, become an ISP? Your ISP provides the pipe. Astraweb provides the
service at the other end of that pipe. I saw nothing at Astraweb's
site saying that they don't accept cross-posted articles but then their
online help is dismal.

So who is your ISP? Do they contract their newsgroup service from
Astraweb? If Astraweb is not included in your ISP service, you chose
to go with Astraweb but I see nothing where they stipulate a
cross-posting restriction. Even if your ISP is contracting the Usenet
service out to Astraweb, and because I see nothing at Astraweb that
says they do not permit cross-posting, it sure seems like you could
cross-post.

If you only do text newsgroups, there are many much cheaper
alternatives than Astraweb. If, however, you require the inclusion of
binaries, I'm sure the folks in news.software.readers could suggest
cost-effective NSPs.
You are #1383 to have pointed out my multi-posting. The official
certificate regarding your induction into the "Get A Life Club" is in
the mail.

Because you use the "X-No-Archive: Yes" header, no one (that doesn't
operate their own NNTP server and regulate its retention time) can
verify that you even have submitted that many posts. Do you really
feel the need to punch holes or corrupt continuity in your threads to
other users that research your past posts using Google Groups?
Apparently you feel your topic is of no interest to anyone else, or you
aren't interested in letting anyone see the solution after 6 days
(which is Google's retention time but not necessarily by the rare few
other NNTP servers that honor this header).

You might want to submit a support ticket to Astraweb asking them
whether or not they support cross-posting. Their web form is at
http://helpdesk.astraweb.com/index.php?_m=tickets&_a=submit. If they
say no then you know it isn't a problem in how you configured Forte
Agent. I suspect they'll say that they do support cross-posting
(because it reduces disk consumption and bandwidth) and that something
in your newsreader is misconfigured. Users in alt.software.newsreaders
can help you with Forte Agent.

By the way, cross-posting only works when the same NNTP server is used
for all copies of the article. You cannot cross-post across servers.
That is because one copy of the post resides on the server and the
other copies of the article are just pointers in the other newsgroups
to that one copy of the article. A server can only reference its own
articles. Do you have more than one NNTP server defined in Forte
Agent?
 
F

freda

Hello Freda:

OK! You get 10 points for creativity.

Well, you get 10 points for having a sense of humor - unlike most others
in these parts.
How many points do we get if we
suggest another ISP? I /think/ we keep score somewhere. :)
\

Many, many months ago, March of 2008, I paid about $25 for 90 gigs of
downloads from Astraweb. (They're now giving 120 gigs for that same
price.) It was a much better deal than having to pay that much each
month for other ISPs who don't have half the retention rate. It's a
good deal. I've downloaded tons of MP3s since then and still have
something like 20 gigs more of downloads to go. Despite the
crossposting problem, iI'm sticking with them.
BTW - I saw one of your posts where the headers /were/ included and
IMHO, they aren't that objectionable.

To me they are.
If it's Astraweb that's denying your crossposts, perhaps a notice in
your posts will help shield you from us NNTP police cadet wannabes. My
$0.02USD.

But then what would I have to bitch about?
Best wishes,

Pete

- freda - :blush:)
 
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freda

Got a link to that official policy? They don't say anything about it at
their web site.

Since when did Astraweb, the NSP (newsgroups service provider) that you
use, become an ISP? Your ISP provides the pipe. Astraweb provides the
service at the other end of that pipe. I saw nothing at Astraweb's
site saying that they don't accept cross-posted articles but then their
online help is dismal.

My misstatement. Verizon DSL is my provider. Astraweb is my news
provider.

No they do not have it on their site. I only became aware of it when I
called their support to complain about the inability to crosspost. It
was only then I learned of their "hidden" policy.

- freda -
 
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VanguardLH

My misstatement. Verizon DSL is my provider. Astraweb is my news
provider.

No they do not have it on their site. I only became aware of it when I
called their support to complain about the inability to crosspost. It
was only then I learned of their "hidden" policy.

- freda -

If Astraweb is going to make bonehead decisions like this (regarding
cross-posting), it might be time to pick a different NSP.

I heard that Verizon had choked their Usenet service by eliminating the
alt.* groups and no longer permitting binary posts (see
http://policyblog.verizon.com/Polic...g-Changes-in-Verizon-s-Newsgroup-Service.aspx).
But that would make it appear that Verizon still does have Usenet
service although now more limited than before. That means you went to
Astraweb to get back what Verizon removed. Okay, but you could just as
well pick a different NSP than Astraweb and one that doesn't put some
unexplained and stupid restriction on cross-posting.

Apparently Verizon removed alt.* groups and forbade binaries and you
wanted those and went to Astraweb to get them. Okay, but Astraweb isn't
the only NSP that carries alt.* and binary groups. I haven't looked
around for paid NSPs because I only do text groups and Motzarella is
good for that (and they carry alt.* groups, too, but not binaries which
I don't care about). You could ask over in the alt.free.newsservers if
there are any free NNTP servers that carry binaries (highly unlikely) or
ask which ones are cheap (you could even buy non-expiring allotments
rather than pay a fixed monthly charge for a quota that you may never
fully consume).
 
F

freda

If Astraweb is going to make bonehead decisions like this (regarding
cross-posting), it might be time to pick a different NSP.

I heard that Verizon had choked their Usenet service by eliminating the
alt.* groups and no longer permitting binary posts (see
http://policyblog.verizon.com/Polic...g-Changes-in-Verizon-s-Newsgroup-Service.aspx).
But that would make it appear that Verizon still does have Usenet
service although now more limited than before. That means you went to
Astraweb to get back what Verizon removed. Okay, but you could just as
well pick a different NSP than Astraweb and one that doesn't put some
unexplained and stupid restriction on cross-posting.

Apparently Verizon removed alt.* groups and forbade binaries and you
wanted those and went to Astraweb to get them. Okay, but Astraweb isn't
the only NSP that carries alt.* and binary groups. I haven't looked
around for paid NSPs because I only do text groups and Motzarella is
good for that (and they carry alt.* groups, too, but not binaries which
I don't care about). You could ask over in the alt.free.newsservers if
there are any free NNTP servers that carry binaries (highly unlikely) or
ask which ones are cheap (you could even buy non-expiring allotments
rather than pay a fixed monthly charge for a quota that you may never
fully consume).

I guess you didn't read one of my previous replies:

"Many, many months ago, March of 2008, I paid about $25 for 90 gigs of
downloads from Astraweb. (They're now giving 120 gigs for that same
price.) It was a much better deal than having to pay that much each
month for other ISPs who don't have half the retention rate. It's a
good deal. I've downloaded tons of MP3s since then and still have
something like 20 gigs more of downloads to go. Despite the
crossposting problem, iI'm sticking with them."

Astraweb is the only news provider I've ever had that wasn't riddled
with problems. I've been on the Web when it was DOS. That doesn't mean I
know a whole lot, it just means I've had a multitude different ISPs and
news providers and a multitude of problems with both. Astraweb's
eccentricity regarding crossposting I can live with, because in every
other way they're the best I've ever had. As for using Verizon, which
like cable, throttles it's users in relation to how many are using it,
I'm kinda stuck with them because they are our phone providers for both
our landline and cell phones. And, as someone who operated dialup for
one heck of a long time, I really don't care if the speed isn't up that
of some other companies. Things move fast enuf for me with Verizon - and
I've never had a problem with them.

- freda -
 
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VanguardLH

I guess you didn't read one of my previous replies:

"Many, many months ago, March of 2008, I paid about $25 for 90 gigs of
downloads from Astraweb. (They're now giving 120 gigs for that same
price.) It was a much better deal than having to pay that much each
month for other ISPs who don't have half the retention rate. It's a
good deal. ..."

I see from your other post (yep, I didn't read it before posting) that
you have 20GB of bandwidth left at AstraWeb. Well, you could do your
binary downloads from Astraweb and use Motzarella for reading and
posting to eliminate the cross-posting problem with AstraWeb. It's not
like you lose any money adding Motzarella as another NNTP server to your
newsreader.
 
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freda

(e-mail address removed) wrote:
snip
I see from your other post (yep, I didn't read it before posting) that
you have 20GB of bandwidth left at AstraWeb. Well, you could do your
binary downloads from Astraweb and use Motzarella for reading and
posting to eliminate the cross-posting problem with AstraWeb. It's not
like you lose any money adding Motzarella as another NNTP server to your
newsreader.

This is from Motzarella. I guess I'll take your advice and do it this
way. No, I use an older version of Agent that only accommodates a
single server. I ain't that fancy on Usenet and rarely post, so I don't
need multi server capability.

As for the original problem with Avast, I guess I'll just turn it off
when I post.

Thanks for the info.

P.S. Did test it. It crossposts nicely. :blush:)
 
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1PW


Hello Freda:

No one free solution is without its occasional drawbacks but some of us
like Motzarella.

In Germany, Mr. Wolfgang Weyand has some free NNTP servers that he keeps
up to date and filtered from spam. He has a method for accepting
strictly voluntary PayPal donations for which he is thankful.

<http://motzarella.org/>

Of course others will have their own personal favorites. ...and yes,
crossposting is OK there.

HTH

Pete
 
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freda

Hello Freda:

I skipped over one of your posts.

It appears as if I'm a half day late and a dollar short.

Good luck with Motzarella. I like it too.

Pete

You're doing better than me. I'm usually 48-72 hours late and much more
than just a dollar short. :blush:)
 
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VanguardLH

This is from Motzarella. I guess I'll take your advice and do it this
way. No, I use an older version of Agent that only accommodates a
single server. I ain't that fancy on Usenet and rarely post, so I don't
need multi server capability.

Yikes. I thought that only FreeAgent forced you to use separate config
files. I recall using batch files for each NNTP server or a shortcut
for each one that loaded a different config file. Was why I didn't
bother with their FreeAgent product. I also thought the free version
wasn't available anymore and that the paid version now does allow
multiple servers in one instance of Forte Agent. Sucks if all you have
is the old FreeAgent that could only handle one NNTP server per instance
of FreeAgent. Before the cleaner 3-pane view got adopted by Forte
Agent, that product was looking pretty antiquated for its UI, like it
was still the same one developed back for use under Windows 3.1.
 
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freda

Yikes. I thought that only FreeAgent forced you to use separate config
files.

Nope, the paid for versions of 1.xx also had only single nntp
capabilities also. I'm still using 1.93.
I recall using batch files for each NNTP server or a shortcut
for each one that loaded a different config file. Was why I didn't
bother with their FreeAgent product.

A few times I was forced to set up more than one Agent in order to use
two different news/isp accounts.
I also thought the free version
wasn't available anymore and that the paid version now does allow
multiple servers in one instance of Forte Agent.

I think the newer versions can be setup for more than a single server. I
don't know for sure. I have tried to use X-news a few times, but simply
disliked it too much to continue with it, even though its filtering was
much more versatile than that of Agent.
Sucks if all you have
is the old FreeAgent that could only handle one NNTP server per instance
of FreeAgent. Before the cleaner 3-pane view got adopted by Forte
Agent, that product was looking pretty antiquated for its UI, like it
was still the same one developed back for use under Windows 3.1.

Yes, I guess the 1.93 version I'm using would look and feel antiquated
when compared to the new stuff. However, as I said, I ain't a power
user. I just keep things simple for the few things I do on Usenet, which
mainly is downloading Mp3 files. I have little use for Usenet outside
of that. Things have gotten really mean in the past decade or so. Sure,
there were always some meanies around in the ancient days, but not near
the number there are now.

As for Windows 3.1, that was the Windows version that finally pulled me
away from plain DOS. And, like everyone else, I got spoiled rotten and
stayed with the GUI bit.
 
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freda

At the icon in the system tray right click and click "On Access
Protection Control." When it opens, on the left find and click
"Internet Mail." Click "Customize" and go to the SMTP tab. Uncheck
"Insert Note into Clean Message."

Click the NNTP tab and uncheck "Insert Note into Clean outbound News."
Click "OK" and again "OK." This will affect only your outbound mail and
news. No more dumb notes proclaiming the cleanliness of the message.

Nope. All those were already unchecked. I went through as many
permutations of settings as I could, but keep seeing that dang sig file.

I hate this Avast. It's menu system was designed by a rabid rat.
Kaspersky's menu items were so easy to find and worded so clearly.

I tried installing my paid-for Kaspersky again last night, figuring that
maybe the blue screens might have been simply a bad install. Nope. Same
blue screens came back again. I'm seriously considering another AV
product. The menu system in this Avast is an exercise in guesswork and
frustration.

Unfortunately, I got that LSP stack error when trying to install Avira.
I did find info on how to fix that in a few places on the Web, but many
others with the same problem say it didn't help them, so I'm not going
to get involved going weird with Avira. I have had it on my wife's
machine for almost a year, and it's a heck of a lot more user friendly
than this Avast nonsense. There's a German AV that is tops in the
ratings, but it isn't available in English. Again - unfortunately,
when you get past Kaspersky, Avast and Avira, the other AVs don't do so
well in the various tests found on the Web. All I know is that I have
used Kaspersky/AVP almost since its inception and have never had a virus
despite some risky surfing on my part in regard to the Web and Usenet.
As for most other AVs, I read about people getting infected all the
time.

Oh, well, I have about 50 days left on the Avast trial, so I have some
time to make up my mind. BitDefender is about the only other one I
consider trustworthy due it's ratings in various tests. It might seem
unreasonable to some as to how I feel about Avast's spamming sig tagged
onto every post. I HATE pushy outfits that try to take over one's
choices after their product is installed. Redmond is bad enuf with that
nonsense, but its all there really is, so I have to stick with them.
(PLEASE - NO ONE start that "Unix" proselytizing crap!)

Thanks for answering. (I'll just have to keep turning off Avast when I
post.)
 
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty

I hate this Avast. It's menu system was designed by a rabid rat.
Kaspersky's menu items were so easy to find and worded so clearly.
[and]
I tried installing my paid-for Kaspersky again last night, figuring
that maybe the blue screens might have been simply a bad install.
Nope. Same blue screens came back again.

So .. if the Kaspersky won't even install, why don't you use the Avast
and not worry about the 'scanned' message in your outgoing messages?

What does Kaspersky have to say about the failures?
(PLEASE - NO ONE start that "Unix" proselytizing crap!)

<lol>
 
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Lars-Erik Østerud

I hate this Avast. It's menu system was designed by a rabid rat.

Turn of the skin. Without the skin it looks much better.
I have used avast! for several years I just love it.
But the default skin is terrible. Much better without.
 

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