how to conserv ink on Canon ip3000?

[drc023]

The ip3000 is a fantastic little printer and probably the least expensive
inkjet printer to use on a daily basis. No one here disputes the fact that
you can get excellent print quality by using oem Canon ink, but the problem
is the cost as you've already noted. The really good news is that the print
cartridges (oem or third party) are very easy to refill and the cost is so
low that ink becomes a non-issue, except for the lying troll who continually
posts garbage about any non-oem product. Use a quality bulk ink formulated
specifically for your printer - NEVER use universal, one size fits all
printers inks. Refilling BCI-3 and BCI-6 tanks is so easy that anyone with
abilities greater than that of the booger eating moron troll can refill an
entire set of cartridges in less than (way less) ten minutes. Since you will
be new to refilling I suggest that you look into the refill kits from
www.hobbicolors.com. These kits come complete with the correct ink for your
printer, empty refillable cartridges and a refill syringe. You can order the
refill set from his eBay store or by contacting him (David) directly at
(e-mail address removed) . A complete refill kit with shipping is less
than the cost of two oem cartridges and that kit will give you quite a few
refills. You can also get larger size containers of ink from them. I firmly
believe that once you've done business with them, you'll be a long term
customer, just as all the rest of us who do business with them are. I use
their ink in several different Canon printers and the results are
outstanding. Just a side note about Hobbicolors ink in the ip3000. My oldest
daughter is heavily into digital photography and prints hundreds of photos
each month. I gave her a H/C refill kit for her ip3000 and she was amazed at
how well the photos look. She reprinted a stack of photos which had been
originally done with oem Canon ink. The only difference she can tell between
the two stacks of prints is that the H/C prints cost almost nothing to print
and the oem Canon ink prints would have broken the bank. Visually, there is
no difference in the prints. Good luck with your studies.

 

[measekite]

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Like OEM, there are
NO

reputable aftermarket resellers that sell quality ink
that will work perfectly well for most users, and refilling is usually

SNIP


VERY

messy at all. And id you are talking of not knowing what something is, you
don't know the OEM formualtion either.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO. THEY INVENTED IT

 

[measekite]

There is Hobbicolors. And don't forget, OEM doesn't disclose, so there is
no real reason aftermarket needs to if OEM doesn't.

VERY DUMB STATEMENT. THE OEM INVENTED THE STUFF ALONG WITH THE
PRINTER. IT IS THE FLY BY NITES THAT ARE TRYING TO SELL THE CRAP AND
NOT DISCLOSE.
I WOULD NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH THEM.

 

[Frank]

There is Hobbicolors. And don't forget, OEM doesn't disclose, so there is
no real reason aftermarket needs to if OEM doesn't.




That is your personal choice. There is no general reason others should
not.

Gary stand by for an all cap piece of crap diatribe from that
know-nothing lying bullshit idiot of moron.
Frank

 

[ashwin.chn]

Thanks for the wonderfull reply.

 

[zakezuke]

The ip3000 is a fantastic little printer and probably the least expensive

Thanks for the wonderfull reply.

While I own the ip3000 and use MIS ink my self, I can not agree 100%
there is visually no difference. It's harder for me to judge color as
my other printer with OEM ink is the mp760 with the extra black. But
text I do notice that OEM bci-3e black does look better than MIS. I
get a pooling effect, as in each character has one spot that is heavier
than the rest. Drytime is longer with MIS as well. It is quite
acceptable, more than happy to use it, but I have to admit there is a
reason to go OEM. The OEM bci-3e is reasonable in price and worth
considering using. You like my self might choose to use another
option... or keep some OEM onhand for special documents.

 

[Gary Tait]

VERY DUMB STATEMENT. THE OEM INVENTED THE STUFF ALONG WITH THE
PRINTER. IT IS THE FLY BY NITES THAT ARE TRYING TO SELL THE CRAP AND
NOT DISCLOSE.

But it is the good vendors that sell good ink, and don't need to disclose
because they have earned the trust of their customers.

 

[Gary Tait]

SNIP

ED Not

VERY

Typical troll games.

And id you are talking of not knowing what something is,
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO. THEY INVENTED IT

Its a two way game. If OEM doesn't have to disclose their formualtion,
aftermarket doesn't have to either. The same way as OEM can gain the
trust of their users to produce quality ink, so do the aftermarket ink
manufacturers and their vendors.

 

[zakezuke]

Measkite said <the oem invented the stuff along with the printer>

Did they? How do you really know when they won't disclose that info?

Really there are a number of printers who have heads made by other
companies. It's your motto to not think at all and go by what's
reccomended on the box. This is known as blind faith.

 

[measekite]

ED Not




Typical troll games.





Its a two way game. If OEM doesn't have to disclose their formualtion,
aftermarket doesn't have to either.

ILLOGICAL THINKING

The same way as OEM can gain the
trust of their users to produce quality ink, so do the aftermarket ink
manufacturers and their vendors.

FALSE

 

[measekite]

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But it is the good vendors that sell good ink, and don't need to disclose
because they have earned the trust of their customers.

BEDCAUSE THEY DO NOT LABEL WHAT THEY SELL PROPERLY AND DO NOT ADVERTISE
PROPERLY THEY ARE NOT GOOD.

 

[zakezuke]

What is the paper brand and paper setting you are using when observing this problem?

Setting, plain paper.
Paper Georgia-Pacific Advantage (acid free) inkjet paper 24lb 0 36500
09374 7 as seen at costco.
http://www.gp.com/officeproducts/inkjet.html

 

[drc023]

While I own the ip3000 and use MIS ink my self, I can not agree 100%
there is visually no difference. It's harder for me to judge color as
my other printer with OEM ink is the mp760 with the extra black. But
text I do notice that OEM bci-3e black does look better than MIS. I
get a pooling effect, as in each character has one spot that is heavier
than the rest. Drytime is longer with MIS as well. It is quite
acceptable, more than happy to use it, but I have to admit there is a
reason to go OEM. The OEM bci-3e is reasonable in price and worth
considering using. You like my self might choose to use another
option... or keep some OEM onhand for special documents.

You are comparing two different ink products. You are referring to MIS ink
and I'm discussing HobbiColors. HobbiColors ink is manufactured by a
different formulator than the supplier to MIS (Image Specialists). I haven't
seen the problem you describe with MIS inks. Paper selection is also
critical to the problem you describe. What is the paper brand and paper
setting you are using when observing this problem?

 

[drc023]

According to GP, that sheet has a special treatment (coating) to enhance
drying- that could result in ink pooling. I doubt you would see the problem
on plain, uncoated paper. From the description you provided it appears to
me that the you should be using a high resolution paper setting - which
bypasses the BCI-3ebk ink and only uses the photo ink setting instead. You
also might try lowering the ink intensity level for the pigment black. There
could be just a little too much ink being squirted onto the paper. Less ink
= less pooling.

 

[Frank]

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Why even bother to answer that piece of shit moron. He's just a ****wit
loser idiot.
Kill file him!
Frank

 

[Frank]

ED Not




Typical troll games.





Its a two way game. If OEM doesn't have to disclose their formualtion,
aftermarket doesn't have to either. The same way as OEM can gain the
trust of their users to produce quality ink, so do the aftermarket ink
manufacturers and their vendors.

That dumb ass actually thinks that printer manufacturers invented ink!
Idiot!
rank

 

[zakezuke]

According to GP, that sheet has a special treatment (coating) to enhance

drying- that could result in ink pooling. I doubt you would see the problem
on plain, uncoated paper. From the description you provided it appears to
me that the you should be using a high resolution paper setting - which
bypasses the BCI-3ebk ink and only uses the photo ink setting instead.

Except I don't have a bci-6 black. It's the ip3000 after all. However
you are correct, using duplex mode works better on the MIS inks. Using
canon's ink it's simply not an issue. I'll double check on other
papers, I wasn't actually aware this stuff was coated.

 

[Gary Tait]

BEDCAUSE THEY DO NOT LABEL WHAT THEY SELL PROPERLY AND DO NOT
ADVERTISE PROPERLY THEY ARE Snip
GOOD.

They market and label their product to the satisfaction of their
customers, and presumably regulators. If the customers feel it is okay
not to disclose the formulation or manufacturer of the product, that's
their business.

If that doesn't suit you then you need to find an ink vendor that does
disclose, to your satisfaction, either the formulation or actual
manufacturer of the ink you wish to use.

 

[Gary Tait]

ILLOGICAL THINKING

Nope, perfectly logical. If you feel the quality of ink is as good as
their disclosure, then OEM ink must be crap, as they disclose even less
than the worst aftermarket ink vendors.

 

[measekite]

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Nope, perfectly logical. If you feel the quality of ink is as good as
their disclosure, then OEM ink must be crap, as they disclose even less
than the worst aftermarket ink vendors.

THIS THINKING IS CIRCULAR