How DARE MS shut down my PC automatically to install updates!!

C

Cal Bear '66

Anybody that allows Windows Updates to download anything that they haven't
reviewed (especially hardware driver updates) deserves what they get.


I Bleed Blue and Gold
GO BEARS!
 
D

David

search the NG for other complaints of this nature. seems you arent as
all-knowing as you think you are. there is INDEED a timer for some
Vista updates. it will reboot your machine. it must be so nice to be
ignorant of these issues,
 
L

Leythos

wrong, wrong, wrong. i don't even want to waste further typing (my arm
hurts) any further explanation to you--you are being deliberately
obtuse, or you just can't comprehend the issue.

Well, you've done a good job ranting, but not explained how your
computer restarted. If you didn't have automatic updates enabled, if you
didn't apply updates manually, then you have to be saying that your
computer downloaded and installed updates and rebooted without you doing
anything at all.

Maybe if you could learn to communicate instead of rant, your message
might be clearer.

--

Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
(e-mail address removed) (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
D

David

Leythos said:
Well, you've done a good job ranting, but not explained how your
computer restarted. If you didn't have automatic updates enabled, if you
didn't apply updates manually, then you have to be saying that your
computer downloaded and installed updates and rebooted without you doing
anything at all.

Maybe if you could learn to communicate instead of rant, your message
might be clearer.
what part of "today's update used a timer to restart my pc
automatically" can't u understand? google the issue. i'm done.
 
L

Leythos

what part of "today's update used a timer to restart my pc
automatically" can't u understand? google the issue. i'm done.

So, how come you can't answer what I asked:

1) Did the update auto install and reboot your computer?

2) Did you install the update manually and it reboot your computer?

3) Did you disable updates, not manually update it, and it installed
without auto-updates being enabled and reboot your computer?

Try answering Yes/No to each one.

--

Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
(e-mail address removed) (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
Q

Qiuness

lol funny... either the restart is enforced by GPO or you have some
stupid ass 3rd party app causing the rr

you get the yellow triangle telling you to reboot nothing is done
autamatically
 
A

Adam Albright

you are so clueless. there is indeed a timer for some updates in vista
that will auto reboot. just because u haven't seen that happen on your
machine(s) yet, doesnt mean it isn't happening.

Remember you can't argue with idiots and this newsgroup is overflowing
with idiots. I can confirm SOME updates DO go to auto install and
reboot your system without asking.

It happened to me a couple years ago and I was damn pissed-off too
because I was nearing the end of a over night render of a video I had
been working on that had been going 14 hours and was about 97%
finished. I saw the usual there's new updates or whatever it says, pop
up on the desktop, I got up to get a cup of coffee and when I came
back a couple minutes later to my horror I saw the system was just
finishing booting up. I assumed Windows (was XP) just crashed and
restarted. Bad enough. Later than night I was looking around and sure
enough the updates had installed by themselves never asking for my
permission to do it and of course I wouldn't with that much time
invested in a project knowing if I would have stopped it it would be
lost during the reboot. I DIDN'T do it, Windows did by itself.

I did follow up and finally got to talk to somebody at Microsoft and
read them the riot act explaining their moronic software just cost me
14 hours work. They naturally denied such a thing could happen at
first, the first guy handed me off to another person, then another and
FINALLY yea, some guy admitted, oops. They also said they would look
into it and get back to me. Still waiting.

The main problem with the clueless fanboy camp is most are computer
illiterate crybabies and Microsoft ass kissers then wouldn't know how
to do anything involved on their computer if their life depended on
it. They only know how to whine, bitch and try to deny every problem
anyone reports on the most absurd of all excuses... they personally
never saw it, ergo, it can't happen. What a bunch of rummies. I could
write a book on all the half-ass stupid things I've seen Windows do
over the years.
 
A

Adam Albright

what part of "today's update used a timer to restart my pc
automatically" can't u understand? google the issue. i'm done.

Ignore Leythos, he never knows what he jabbering about. Way back
twenty years ago when I was working I would let some dummy like him
put paper in a printer.
 
D

David

Leythos said:
So, how come you can't answer what I asked:

1) Did the update auto install and reboot your computer?

2) Did you install the update manually and it reboot your computer?

3) Did you disable updates, not manually update it, and it installed
without auto-updates being enabled and reboot your computer?

Try answering Yes/No to each one.
1. yes

2. no
3. i just disabled updating TODAY after vista rebooted me automatically
for the first time ever.

does that make sense to you? hope so. my arm still hurts and its hard
to type,

Dave
 
D

David

Qiuness said:
lol funny... either the restart is enforced by GPO or you have some
stupid ass 3rd party app causing the rr

you get the yellow triangle telling you to reboot nothing is done
autamatically
oh for gawd's sakes!! you dont get it either! some updates WILL auto
reboot your vista pc. just wait.. your time will come/ when it happens
dont say i didnt warn u.
 
S

Stephan Rose

You agreed to it and this has been ranted about before. You don't have
to allow automatic updates - it's an OPTION YOU AGREE TOO.

Personally, I think there is a distinct difference between "Automatic
Update" and "Automatic Reboot".

Just generally speaking, having software automatically update itself if I
wish it to do so is fine but having it automatically *reboot*, with
potential disastrous results, my computer is not.

To me, something like that applies as much to Windows as it does to any
other piece of software.

Most people don't equate "Automatic Update" with "Automatic reboot".

No software should ever automatically reboot the computer unless
explicitly being allowed to do so and this permission only being valid
for that one single-time.

On a home computer an automatic reboot may not be all that disastrous
(though still most certainly could be). No extended harm is going to come
from someone losing their solitaire high score. But on an office computer
however, such results could be extremely disastrous and result in severe
data loss.

Now with regard to microsoft, on one hand they majorly push people to
activate automatic update. Vista will whine and moan and bitch in the
systray if you don't (and don't turn off it's moaning as well) and when
the user is presented with the choices, the wording is meant to make the
user choose automatic updates. Essentially I see where Microsoft is
coming from and that's all good and fine.

However, what is not fine is MS then going ahead and having it
automatically reboot the machine as the results are going to be
unpredictable and could cause severe data loss. It also doesn't state
anything about automatically rebooting when you make this choice. It just
simply states automatic updates.

So as far as I am concerned, the original poster has every single right
to be pissed off about this.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

å›ã®ã“ã¨æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯
å›ã®ã“ã¨å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰
 
D

Dave Cox

oh for gawd's sakes!! you dont get it either! some updates WILL
auto reboot your vista pc. just wait.. your time will come/ when
it happens dont say i didnt warn u.

Yes some updates do reboot your PC with a timer if your not around
to reboot and finish configuring the updates.

But you yourself said you seen the timer icon in the task bar and
you ignored it until it was to late to cancel it (2 seconds were left
on the timer, I think you said)

So what I am curious about is why your so upset you lost your
solitaire scores.


There are options for Windows updates. Type 'windows update' in the
search box of the start menu, run the program, in the left pane you
will see 'Change settings' select that option and configure how you
want updates to be handled. Granted there have been updates that
installed even with auto updates turned off but those did not reboot
your system and that topic has been covered in here already and was
almost unanimous that people were not happy.
 
D

David

Dave said:
Yes some updates do reboot your PC with a timer if your not around
to reboot and finish configuring the updates.

But you yourself said you seen the timer icon in the task bar and
you ignored it until it was to late to cancel it (2 seconds were left
on the timer, I think you said)

So what I am curious about is why your so upset you lost your
solitaire scores.


There are options for Windows updates. Type 'windows update' in the
search box of the start menu, run the program, in the left pane you
will see 'Change settings' select that option and configure how you
want updates to be handled. Granted there have been updates that
installed even with auto updates turned off but those did not reboot
your system and that topic has been covered in here already and was
almost unanimous that people were not happy.
are u confused? (HINT: I know you are confused). I don't play
solitare. someone else here does... try replying to the proper post if
u wish to carry on a convo with someone else.
'
Dave
 
A

Alias

David said:
oh for gawd's sakes!! you dont get it either! some updates WILL auto
reboot your vista pc. just wait.. your time will come/ when it happens
dont say i didnt warn u.

Which is why I never do Auto Updates.
 
G

Greg Rozelle

Remember you can't argue with idiots and this newsgroup is overflowing
with idiots. I can confirm SOME updates DO go to auto install and
reboot your system without asking.

It happened to me a couple years ago and I was damn pissed-off too
because I was nearing the end of a over night render of a video I had
been working on that had been going 14 hours and was about 97%
finished. I saw the usual there's new updates or whatever it says, pop
up on the desktop, I got up to get a cup of coffee and when I came
back a couple minutes later to my horror I saw the system was just
finishing booting up. I assumed Windows (was XP) just crashed and
restarted. Bad enough. Later than night I was looking around and sure
enough the updates had installed by themselves never asking for my
permission to do it and of course I wouldn't with that much time
invested in a project knowing if I would have stopped it it would be
lost during the reboot. I DIDN'T do it, Windows did by itself.

I did follow up and finally got to talk to somebody at Microsoft and
read them the riot act explaining their moronic software just cost me
14 hours work. They naturally denied such a thing could happen at
first, the first guy handed me off to another person, then another and
FINALLY yea, some guy admitted, oops. They also said they would look
into it and get back to me. Still waiting.

The main problem with the clueless fanboy camp is most are computer
illiterate crybabies and Microsoft ass kissers then wouldn't know how
to do anything involved on their computer if their life depended on
it. They only know how to whine, bitch and try to deny every problem
anyone reports on the most absurd of all excuses... they personally
never saw it, ergo, it can't happen. What a bunch of rummies. I could
write a book on all the half-ass stupid things I've seen Windows do
over the years.


See my other post
 
G

Greg Rozelle

There's no timer that auto shuts down after an update. A windows pops up
and informs you that a reboot is necessary, but you can wait and do it later
at your convenience
This idiot is merely spouting FUD.


If he is telling the truth. He could have a virus. Now, that
does do a count down, I have seen that with xp.


Greg Rozelle
 
D

David

Greg said:
If he is telling the truth. He could have a virus. Now, that
does do a count down, I have seen that with xp.


Greg Rozelle
google the issue. its been mentioned here before. no viruses. sheesh.
 
C

caver1

David said:
google the issue. its been mentioned here before. no viruses. sheesh.


There is an article, I believe it is on PCMAG.com, about this issue.
There is an easy work around.
Either always do your updates with administrator privileges or give the
standard user privileges to stop the reboot.
caver1
 

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments. After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.

Ask a Question

Top