Great secure OS you designed Microsoft

[Gladiator]

Vista is so secure that I can't even do a simple thing like watch
videos at youtube. You locked the gates but you also locked me out in
the process. Linux is a more secure OS too and I have no problem
viewing youtube on that OS. Get rid of that DRM crap too as it is
already causing issues with memory address space allocation. In the
meantime I will use XP as my main OS until Vista is ready for prime
time. By then I expect I will have to buy a new version of the OS. As
it is now Vista is just a novelty OS to me.

 

[Mike Brannigan]

Vista is so secure that I can't even do a simple thing like watch
videos at youtube. You locked the gates but you also locked me out in
the process. Linux is a more secure OS too and I have no problem
viewing youtube on that OS. Get rid of that DRM crap too as it is
already causing issues with memory address space allocation. In the
meantime I will use XP as my main OS until Vista is ready for prime
time. By then I expect I will have to buy a new version of the OS. As
it is now Vista is just a novelty OS to me.

I have no problem watching anything on YouTube on my Visa machines. There
is no problem with the OS that prevents youtube.
Maybe you should learn a little more about it and understand how the
security model works.

Please feel free to provide details of YOUR memory alloc issues with DRM.

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

Youtube videos play ok here.. do you have Adobe Flash installed?

DRM is a product of the music industry.. complain to them..

Vista is so secure that I can't even do a simple thing like watch
videos at youtube. You locked the gates but you also locked me out in
the process. Linux is a more secure OS too and I have no problem
viewing youtube on that OS. Get rid of that DRM crap too as it is
already causing issues with memory address space allocation. In the
meantime I will use XP as my main OS until Vista is ready for prime
time. By then I expect I will have to buy a new version of the OS. As
it is now Vista is just a novelty OS to me.

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Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[Alias]

Youtube videos play ok here.. do you have Adobe Flash installed?

DRM is a product of the music industry.. complain to them..

Um, the music industry, specifically EMI, is learning that DRM is not a
good thing. When will MS wake up?

Alias

 

[Mike Brannigan]

Um, the music industry, specifically EMI, is learning that DRM is not a
good thing. When will MS wake up?

Alias

Microsoft will respond when the entire media publishing industry (music,
movie etc) all no longer wish to use DRM.
Until that time DRM is a technology that a publisher CHOOSES to use to
protect THEIR content.
This is not a Microsoft issue - it is one entirely of the media industry and
the piracy of their products making.

 

[Richard Urban]

When the music industry drops DRM, Microsoft will likely be "glad" to offer
a patch to remove or disable it in Vista.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

 

[Alias]

Microsoft will respond when the entire media publishing industry (music,
movie etc) all no longer wish to use DRM.
Until that time DRM is a technology that a publisher CHOOSES to use to
protect THEIR content.
This is not a Microsoft issue - it is one entirely of the media industry
and the piracy of their products making.

Yet another good reason to wait on Vista. I suppose the music and film
industry put a gun up to MS' head and forced them to include DRM in
Vista ...

Alias

 

[Alias]

When the music industry drops DRM, Microsoft will likely be "glad" to
offer a patch to remove or disable it in Vista.

The question is not what they may or may not do in the future but why
they included it in the first place. Did the music and film industry
hold a gun to their head or what?

Alias

 

[Anando [MVP]]

Go away, troll !

--
Anando
Microsoft MVP- Windows Shell/User
http://www.microsoft.com/mvp

Microsoft Certified Professional
http://www.microsoft.com/mcp

My Blog
http://www.anando.org/blog

 

[Richard Urban]

For Microsoft to include the technologies they did, yes, a gun was held to
their head. Comply or don't offer HD video. BTW, video card manufacturers
had to comply also - so why don't you rail against them?

But you already knew, this as it was addressed in one of your mile long
threads many months ago.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

 

[Gladiator]

I have no problem watching anything on YouTube on my Visa machines. There
is no problem with the OS that prevents youtube.
Maybe you should learn a little more about it and understand how the
security model works.

Maybe you should look up issues with Flash Player in Vista. Google is
your friend.

Please feel free to provide details of YOUR memory alloc issues with DRM.

You're an MVP and you don't even know what I am talking about? Time
for you to hit google then.

 

[Gladiator]

DRM is a product of the music industry.. complain to them..

Microsoft is the one playing patsy to the RIAA.

 

[Gladiator]

This is not a Microsoft issue - it is one entirely of the media industry and
the piracy of their products making.

This is the issue I am talking about.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3044&p=2

This post seems to sum it up pretty nicely.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1210609&page=4

"On whether this is a feature or a bug, and why this is happening. I
think Anand has a decent handle on it. It is a security feature,
essentially for DRM, the video memory is remapped to user application
space, this is the only allowable programming access to the video
card. Why this is done is to prevent a second application from
checking the memory while playing protected streams (DRM's Video,
bluRay etc) so they can't be copied. The problem is the massive loss
of address space. MS is choosing DRM security over user memory space
in Vista."

 

[Gladiator]

For Microsoft to include the technologies they did, yes, a gun was held to
their head. Comply or don't offer HD video. BTW, video card manufacturers
had to comply also - so why don't you rail against them?

I bought an LCD projector and wanted to upscale the DVD's from my PC
to 1280x720 onto the projector. Both WMP11 and Cyberlink PowerDVD
wouldn't allow me to do this due to Macrovision. No problem. VLC to
the rescue. All DRM methods will be defeated so they may as well give
up now and stop wasting money and users time with their BS. We are
getting sick of the RIAA. They are scumbags.

 

[Gladiator]

Go away, troll !

Another MVP abusing the customers. Even Microsoft has trouble finding
good help these days. Hope they pay you what you are worth. Oh, right,
they don't pay you.

 

[Alias]

For Microsoft to include the technologies they did, yes, a gun was held
to their head. Comply or don't offer HD video. BTW, video card
manufacturers had to comply also - so why don't you rail against them?

But you already knew, this as it was addressed in one of your mile long
threads many months ago.

Please learn how to post in Usenet. The way you post makes it so when
one uses a real news reader, everything below your sig gets nuked.
Either bottom post or get rid of your sig.

I haven't seen any DRM in any video cards. Can you prove that?

MS could have said they won't include HD if the music and film industry
insists on DRM. That would mean millions of computers that couldn't even
pay to see content put out by these music and film shysters.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Microsoft is the one playing patsy to the RIAA.

Yeah, they could just say "no".

Alias

 

[Alias]

This is the issue I am talking about.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3044&p=2

This post seems to sum it up pretty nicely.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1210609&page=4

"On whether this is a feature or a bug, and why this is happening. I
think Anand has a decent handle on it. It is a security feature,
essentially for DRM, the video memory is remapped to user application
space, this is the only allowable programming access to the video
card. Why this is done is to prevent a second application from
checking the memory while playing protected streams (DRM's Video,
bluRay etc) so they can't be copied. The problem is the massive loss
of address space. MS is choosing DRM security over user memory space
in Vista."

Another good reason to go Open Source.

Alias

 

[Richard Urban]

You see how I post. If you don't like the Microsoft default, go away. I will
not change and I **like** top posting.

I know what I am responding to. Why should others have to read through the
same previous verbiage two, three or twenty times to get to my response?

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

 

[Richard Urban]

YOU are ***NOT*** a customer.

YOU are a ***TROLL***.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)