firewire problem

J

Jimjay

I have 2 x 6 pin and a 4 pin firewire connections (IEEE1394) which are
factory installed . These aren't able to find my Samsung digital camcorder
VP-D361 which according to my instructions is a plug & play camera and
doesn't require any drivers. Would it help if I reverted back to "factory
settings". I am using XP home edition with service pack 3 installed. I have
tried my camera on another computer and everything works fine.
Many thanks
 
P

Paul

Jimjay said:
I have 2 x 6 pin and a 4 pin firewire connections (IEEE1394) which are
factory installed . These aren't able to find my Samsung digital camcorder
VP-D361 which according to my instructions is a plug & play camera and
doesn't require any drivers. Would it help if I reverted back to "factory
settings". I am using XP home edition with service pack 3 installed. I have
tried my camera on another computer and everything works fine.
Many thanks

Does the camera have a mode to enable streaming to the computer ?
Maybe that needs to be enabled. Like "Player" mode.

http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/200606/20060619132203484_00970G_VPD363_UK_.pdf

Firewire drivers are built into the OS, and the Firewire chips
are supposed to be standards compliant. So that shouldn't be
a problem.

Paul
 
B

Bob Harris

The camera must be turned on to access its video content.

If it has a separate flash memory chip (like a still-camera), that might
need to be removed for access via a flash memory reader.

Does the XP device manager see any firewire devices at all? In this case,
perhaps an unknown device with a question mark next to it? If so, that
might be a question of drivers, although usually firewire does not require
drivers beyond those provided with XP. But, it is possible that the camera
requires something special.

Has any firewire device ever worked on this PC? If not, borrow another and
try it. For example, a firewire hard drive; these are very common on MACs.
If formated as FAT32 both XP and a MAC can read it. If firewire has never
worked, or does not work now with any device, look into the BIOS. It could
be turned off there.
 
J

Jimjay

Thanks for both of your contributions.The device manager had a yellow sign
over other devices. As far as I am aware no other firewire devices have been
used on the computer.The manufacturers - Medion have said that I need to
revert back to factory settings. Wish me luck
 
P

Paul

Jimjay said:
Thanks for both of your contributions.The device manager had a yellow sign
over other devices. As far as I am aware no other firewire devices have been
used on the computer.The manufacturers - Medion have said that I need to
revert back to factory settings. Wish me luck

Firewire or IEEE1394, has a number of protocol stacks that rest on
top of it. SBP2 might be SCSI Bus Protocol for Firewire storage
devices. IEC 61883 or just 61883 for short, may have something to
do with digital video and camcorders. For example

"Camcorder not being detected"
http://www.siig.com/FAQ.aspx?faqid=10050383

I don't know to what extent, other software is needed to
enable streaming.

Also, be careful with some of those articles, because they
may be for Win98SE. I would have expected WinXP to be
in better shape.

Things like this, should already be rolled into a Service Pack.
This one is from 2002.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...FamilyID=9e8df3f3-cd0c-4edb-936a-5f0043e88bb2

If you "revert back to factory settings", does that give you
Service Pack 3 or not ?

Maybe you could examine the thing with the yellow mark in
more detail, check properties and see what it is. It
may have some enumeration info of some sort.

In the past, it was quite popular to blame certain brands
of Firewire chips for the troubles. I don't know if that is
still necessary or not. The whole idea was, if the companies
followed standards, than one set of drivers could control them.
In the past, you might have seen suggestions to use a TI or
Lucent/Agere chip on a Firewire/1394 card, rather than VIA. But
those opinions now might very well be ancient history. My previous
computer had a VIA, and at least Firewire SBP2 worked OK for
a storage device. I don't have any DV to test with.

The manual for the camera also makes reference to a CODEC
on the CD that came with the camera. That may not fix the
current connectivity issues, but may be necessary to
decode video from the camera or something. You might look
through the driver and software links here.

http://www.samsung.com/ie/support/d...=D&vType=R&prd_ia_cd=03110600&disp_nm=VP-D361

Paul
 

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