Firefox alternative?

[Kansas Boiled Beef]

Since Firefox has betrayed us by becoming "googleware" (betrayalware?)
it's time to move on and find an alternative non-IE browser. Should
we, freeware fans, support K-Meleon? But, wait a minute, that's Gecko
to, and can that still be trusted? What to do?
Perhaps this pc veteran will have to switch to Linux.

KBB

 

[Azzman]

Since Firefox has betrayed us by becoming "googleware" (betrayalware?)
it's time to move on and find an alternative non-IE browser. Should
we, freeware fans, support K-Meleon? But, wait a minute, that's Gecko
to, and can that still be trusted? What to do?
Perhaps this pc veteran will have to switch to Linux.

Take a look at this thread:

http://tinyurl.com/8o47a

 

[Daniel Mandic]

Since Firefox has betrayed us by becoming "googleware" (betrayalware?)
it's time to move on and find an alternative non-IE browser. Should
we, freeware fans, support K-Meleon? But, wait a minute, that's Gecko
to, and can that still be trusted? What to do?
Perhaps this pc veteran will have to switch to Linux.

KBB

Hi Kansas!



I go well with K-Meleon.


It´s very good for unsizeable Sites, as IE cannot size any webpage ;-(
Nice small and fast Browser, with good diversity.


Why can K-Meleon not be trusted?




Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

 

[Roger G]

Perhaps this pc veteran will have to switch to Linux.

Be carefull, more and more linux distros are "betraying" us with Corel, IBM,
Netware, etc. ))))

 

[wald]

Since Firefox has betrayed us by becoming "googleware"
(betrayalware?) it's time to move on and find an alternative
non-IE browser. Should we, freeware fans, support K-Meleon? But,
wait a minute, that's Gecko to, and can that still be trusted?
What to do? Perhaps this pc veteran will have to switch to
Linux.

I must have missed something. What's the deal with FF & Google?

Wald

 

[pohsite]

Since Firefox has betrayed us by becoming "googleware" (betrayalware?)
it's time to move on and find an alternative non-IE browser. Should
we, freeware fans, support K-Meleon? But, wait a minute, that's Gecko
to, and can that still be trusted? What to do?
Perhaps this pc veteran will have to switch to Linux.

Welcome to Moron City.
Population: You.

 

[El Gee]

Since Firefox has betrayed us by becoming "googleware" (betrayalware?)
it's time to move on and find an alternative non-IE browser. Should
we, freeware fans, support K-Meleon? But, wait a minute, that's Gecko
to, and can that still be trusted? What to do?
Perhaps this pc veteran will have to switch to Linux.

KBB

Hi!

Would you be kind and explain to me what is the problem? While I admit
Google is trying to become the next M$, I have no problem with their
asociation with OO.o or Firefox.

Help me understand.

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[Fedz]

Since Firefox has betrayed us by becoming "googleware" (betrayalware?)
it's time to move on and find an alternative non-IE browser. Should
we, freeware fans, support K-Meleon? But, wait a minute, that's Gecko
to, and can that still be trusted? What to do?
Perhaps this pc veteran will have to switch to Linux.

Gecko is the rendering engine of the browsers (Firefox, K-Meleon ...) and
not the actual browser gui itself.

To my understanding K-Meleon can't be used to put the likes of Google
toolbar in it like Firefox can (plug-in) but, you can use Google or any
other eg: http://Clusty.com in K-meleon if you (the user) manually does
this.

I myself use and prefer K-Meleon (http://kmeleon.sorceforge.net) over any
other browser - in fact K-Meleon is my main 99.99% used browser - due to
it's speed, security, user-friendly and highly configurable user interface.

Browser like OB1 (http://OffByOne.com)are goog/nice but not really suited
for mass browsing - different sub-category of browser.

Kind regards

Fedz - http://encoderX.co.uk

 

[Fedz]

(http://kmeleon.sorceforge.net)

Sincere apologies, I mis-typed the K-Meleon URL.
Should read: http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net

Kind regards

 

[Nadeem]

Since Firefox has betrayed us by becoming "googleware" (betrayalware?)
it's time to move on and find an alternative non-IE browser. Should
we, freeware fans, support K-Meleon? But, wait a minute, that's Gecko
to, and can that still be trusted? What to do?
Perhaps this pc veteran will have to switch to Linux.

Easy - switch to Opera much better than either IE or Firefox

www.opera.com

 

[Conor]

Since Firefox has betrayed us by becoming "googleware" (betrayalware?)
it's time to move on and find an alternative non-IE browser.

What utter and complete ****ing stupidity. If you're that ****ing
pathetic why are you using a Yahoo e-mail address as they're a
commercial operation?

Should
we, freeware fans, support K-Meleon? But, wait a minute, that's Gecko
to, and can that still be trusted? What to do?
Perhaps this pc veteran will have to switch to Linux.

ROFLMAO. YOU DON'T EVEN USE LINUX and you're going on about Firefox
selling out?

****ing hypocrite.

 

[Conor]

I must have missed something. What's the deal with FF & Google?

Google gave them some cash with no ties.

The OP is just a dumbfuck.

 

[Conor]

Easy - switch to Opera much better than either IE or Firefox

He can't. Opera are a commercial company. Saying that though, the
stupid hypocrite uses Windows.

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=]

Since Firefox has betrayed us by becoming "googleware"
(betrayalware?) it's time to move on and find an alternative
non-IE browser. Should we, freeware fans, support K-Meleon? But,
wait a minute, that's Gecko to, and can that still be trusted?
What to do? Perhaps this pc veteran will have to switch to Linux.

I missed the betrayal, but I doubt you'd be happy with browsers under
Linux. Galeon uses Gecko, and Konqueror uses KHTML, which has some
ties to Apple's Safari team.

 

[NebuR]

The OP is just a dumbfuck.

What utter and complete ****ing stupidity. If you're that
****ing pathetic

****ing hypocrite.

Welcome to Moron City.
Population: You.

Gentlemen, gentlemen, where are your manners? Not used to discussion
and disagreement, and a wee bit lonely, I presume. Pehaps you could
form your own club: The Rude Buggers.

NebuR

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=]

I must have missed something. What's the deal with FF & Google?

There is a deal, but unfortunately the details aren't public. All
that's known (AFAICT) is that Google pays the Mozilla Foundation (
pays the Mozilla Corporation now, I guess) some money, and all
official builds of Firefox come with Google as the default search
engine.

<http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/applications/0,39020384,39189475,00.htm>

It doesn't seem like much of a betrayal, as any user can change the
default search engine. Mozilla also has partnerships
with Yahoo! search and Answers.com.

<http://news.com.com/Google+stars+in+Firefoxs+new+browser/2100-1032_3-5449172.html>
(toward the bottom, a mention MozCorp President Mitchell Baker about
the Yahoo! deal)

<http://www.mozilla.com/press/mozilla-2005-11-30.html>

The Google and Yahoo! deals go back a year or two; the Answers.com
one seems to be recent.

 

[Daniel Mandic]

What utter and complete ****ing stupidity. If you're that ****ing
pathetic why are you using a Yahoo e-mail address as they're a
commercial operation?

And your Internet Provider is free -)
ROTFL.... I have not heard such unmindful qouteing, for a long time.

ROFLMAO. YOU DON'T EVEN USE LINUX and you're going on about Firefox
selling out?

****ing hypocrite.

Why are so many people in alt.freeware so kindly.... You should try to
write with me in this style.





Best Reagrds,

Daniel Mandic

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=]

There is a deal, but unfortunately the details aren't public. All
that's known (AFAICT) is that Google pays the Mozilla Foundation (
pays the Mozilla Corporation now, I guess) some money, and all
official builds of Firefox come with Google as the default search
engine.

I wrote too soon. A deal with Yahoo! makes it the default search
engine in some Asian locales, and Yahoo! hosts the start pages for
those.

<http://standblog.org/blog/2005/12/0...artnering-with-mozilla-and-nobody-has-noticed>

 

[Harvey Van Sickle]

On 30 Nov 2005, Daniel Mandic wrote

Kansas Boiled Beef wrote:

Hi Kansas!
I go well with K-Meleon.

It´s very good for unsizeable Sites, as IE cannot size any
webpage ;-( Nice small and fast Browser, with good diversity.

Why can K-Meleon not be trusted?

Precisely: all mozilla browsers use the gecko engine, but not all
gecko browsers are part of mozilla. I suspect the OP is confused,
and thinks "if it's gecko it must be mozilla".

I use K-Meleon, too -- it's been my default for about a year. I
love it, but I'm finding that more and more sites don't work in it.

I assume this is due not only to IE-specific code, but also to the
expanding use of XML -- but I could be wrong on that.

 

[Harvey Van Sickle]

On 30 Nov 2005, Fedz wrote

I myself use and prefer K-Meleon
(http://kmeleon.sorceforge.net) over any other browser - in
fact K-Meleon is my main 99.99% used browser - due to it's
speed, security, user-friendly and highly configurable user
interface.

Same here -- I've had K-Meleon as my default for about a year now,
and I love it.

I am, though, finding that more and more sites are not working with
KM. What usually happens with these is that I click on a link, and
nothing happens -- but it's not an IE-specific thing, as the sites
work in FF and Opera. (XML or something? Dunno.)

It's not become a big enough problem to make me change my browser
default away from KM, but it's happening enough for me to notice
it, and to start thinking about what I might have to switch to in
the future.