Deleting mails from server

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Blinky the Shark

FYIS.org/estore said:
In Malev posted:
"> But...some sucker (or is it maybe because of this virus thing going
But just fine to meet this individuals one-time cry for help.

There's probably FREEware that will do this. I doubt that you've looked
for any. Am I wrong?
Lighten up, you anal retentive freeware police are starting to get on
my/others nerves, and are going to wind up driving everyone away!

Only the shareware/adware/spyware peddlers.
 
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Antoine

mike ring said:
I don't believe trying to help anyone is OT anywhere; if it is
here due to some political correctness I, and I think a lot of
other subscribers, are in the wrong place.

It is up to the poster to decide what to use - or will you allow
ONLY freeware on *your* computer?

Anyone who knows of good freeware will say so, but should there
chance to be none, should we all sit mumchance while someone
twists in the breeze?

This has already been discussed here. What I found pretty misplaced
in the post I first answered too is that there are several very good
*freeware* alternatives to the shareware product that was
recommended. Hence, there was no particular reason to suggest a free
for trial product.
 
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Blinky the Shark

FYIS.org/estore said:
In Antoine posted:
As is free trials apparently?

No, that's not the group's definition. Heard of something called a FAQ?

If you've even *lurked* here for more than a few days, you've been
exposed to it, even if you didn't care to read it. You can lead a horse
to water, but you can't make him give a shit. If you *haven't* even
lurked here that long, then you're probably not in a strong position to
argue about what the group's criteria are for freeware.
 
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Blinky the Shark

mike said:
193.252.19.141:
I don't believe trying to help anyone is OT anywhere; if it is here due to
some political correctness I, and I think a lot of other subscribers, are
in the wrong place.
It is up to the poster to decide what to use - or will you allow ONLY
freeware on *your* computer?
Anyone who knows of good freeware will say so, but should there chance to
be none, should we all sit mumchance while someone twists in the breeze?

So prove that there is no freeware for this, thereby making shareware on
topic...
 
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Vic Dura

I don't believe trying to help anyone is OT anywhere; if it is here due to
some political correctness I, and I think a lot of other subscribers, are
in the wrong place.

It is up to the poster to decide what to use - or will you allow ONLY
freeware on *your* computer?

Anyone who knows of good freeware will say so, but should there chance to
be none, should we all sit mumchance while someone twists in the breeze?


Well said Mike
 
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Bob Adams

In Blinky the Shark <[email protected]> typed:

No, that's not the group's definition. Heard of something called a
FAQ?

If you've even *lurked* here for more than a few days, you've been
exposed to it, even if you didn't care to read it. You can lead a
horse to water, but you can't make him give a shit.
<snip>

Hi Blinky.
I think you meant:
"You can lead a horticulture, but you can't make her think." ;O)
--
regards,
bob

Anarchism is founded on the observation that since few men are wise
enough to rule themselves, even fewer are wise enough to rule others. -
Edward Abbey
 
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mike ring

So prove that there is no freeware for this, thereby making shareware
on topic...
Blinky, I always respected you.

You should know about the difficulties of *proving* a negative.

If I don't know a politically correct answer, and help is required, does
that mean I must withhold one that isn't.

Someone else may come steaming to the rescue, OTOH, they may not.

There is an overriding concern, to help someone, and I will try to do that
while you check up on *proving* negatives

mike r
 
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Brian Pipa

diofan1980 said:
Iwant to delete
those messages. Is there any application which could do this, without
downloading headers? I mean...just put info about pop server, password and then
Hasta la vista messages?
I could write a Java comamndline tool that would do this. Would only
take me about about 10 minutes to write it. I almost hesitate to do it
though - deleting EVERY message in a mailbox is a dangerous thing. Seems
like it would be worth it to at least make sure there is no important
email in the box.

I use K9 ( http://keir.net/k9.html ) for SPAM checking. It has a check
server option which will get all the headers. You can do that then
delete them all without downloading them.

If anyone does want a freeware Java app that will do it, email me.
--
--------------------------
My freeware:
MACCC - MP3 Automagic CD Cover Creator
http://maccc.filenabber.com
NAtor - retrieves email permanently from mailinator.com
http://nator.filenabber.com
 
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Blinky the Shark

Blinky, I always respected you.
Thanks.

You should know about the difficulties of *proving* a negative.

Yes, I went to school. :)

But, it was your theory, Mike, not mine. I don't buy the "oh, *I*
didn't know any freeware, so it must be nobody else does, either"
thing. Especially from someone I don't recognize from being around
here before (or very long if at all). (Not you -- the shareware
peddler.)
If I don't know a politically correct answer, and help is required, does
that mean I must withhold one that isn't.

As all of the Usenet Troll And Freedom Fighter Association crowd will tell
you, you're free to post whatever you want, Mike. Binaries, HTML...nobody
can stop you.
 
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Mike

.... Is there any application which could do this, without
downloading headers? I mean...just put info about pop server, password and
then

I don't think you can filter messages without downloading the headers. Seems
to me any program that
runs on your machine will have to download the headers, apply the filter,
then tell the server to delete the message
without downloading the body of the message. That should still save
considerable time.
 
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Blinky the Shark

Mike said:
I don't think you can filter messages without downloading the headers. Seems
to me any program that
runs on your machine will have to download the headers, apply the filter,
then tell the server to delete the message
without downloading the body of the message. That should still save
considerable time.

To be sure. Headers aren't going to take long.

At the same time, though, while *I* can't write it, I'd think a script
to delete everything in a specific box on the server would be trivial
for someone who knows POP.
 
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Mel

Glenn said:
I am amazes how much span is being generated. My isp had a filter that I
have him put on my mail and do to a mistake on setup, they were putting the
junk into a directory under my account but one I never knew was there
instead of just killing it.

There were 930 spams there from just 6 weeks. Only about 3 - 4 a week slip
through their filter and I had no idea spam had gotten so bad.

Glenn


I had my spam problem after my email address (with an old ISP) was published
on a website.

Fortunately I intended to abandon it, trouble was about 3 months later I had to use
it to be emailed a forgotten password ...


A new anti-spam law has just been passed in the UK, although its going to
have no real effect, I guess it is a step in the right direction -
http://www.ananova.com/business/story/sm_820632.html
 
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pcboardsbbs

diofan1980 said:
Hello everyone

'm using PopTray for previewing email on pop3 accounts that I own.
But...some sucker (or is it maybe because of this virus thing going around)
bombed me. There is 5000+ mails on my pop account. It takes shitload of time to
read headers in PopTray and such programs.

Iwant to delete
those messages. Is there any application which could do this, without
downloading headers? I mean...just put info about pop server, password and then
Hasta la vista messages?
<snip>

ok, now for the answer since no one was polite enough to stop wasting
bandwidth and arguing worse than my 2 young'uns.

ok, step number 1.

goto start -> run and type in:

telnet ->select ok

when telnet application launches, click ->CONNECT ->REMOTESYSTEM

in the hostname field you enter your POP hostname, such as
pop.freeserve.net for example.

in the port field, enter 110

leave the term type to vt100

click on connect, you should now be connected to your pop host.

now for the best part.

type in

user username

where username is of course your username then hit return / enter.

You should get an ok message pop up.
now you need to enter your password thus:

pass password

and of course get the OK prompt.

You will not see any of this on the screen as you type it in, dont
worry, just type it in nice and slow.

You can of course get your settings from your existing mail reader
program if you are not sure.

if all goes well, you should now be able to type the command
LIST

and a list of available mail numbers and size come up in the telnet
window. something like this...

1 798
2 74364
3 7354345
4 3543
5 636

left hand number is the email count and the right hand number is the
size of the email in bytes.


you can display any of the messages directly from the server by using
the command RETR X where X is the number of the email to be RETuRned

You can use the DELE command to delete the messages.

Such as: DELE 1-300

deletes from 1 to number 300.

if you do delete ALL your messages, make sure you use the QUIT command
when you have finished, simply quitting the telnet application will
restore the emails you have deleted !!


any other proiblems, get back to me via here or (if off topic) use my
email.

regards,
tim
(e-mail address removed)
 
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mike ring

But, it was your theory, Mike, not mine. I don't buy the "oh, *I*
didn't know any freeware, so it must be nobody else does, either"
thing. Especially from someone I don't recognize from being around
here before (or very long if at all). (Not you -- the shareware
peddler.)
You may well be right on motivation, Blinky, but there's my conscience, and
there's the others.

If doing what I feel is right leads to getting a little bit scammed, so be
it.

And if the OP and the first responder are a trolling double act, well, they
got past me, but they're not the first - or I *really* hope, the last ;-)

mike r
 
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diofan1980

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:40:37 GMT, you [ (e-mail address removed) ] wrote...
If anyone does want a freeware Java app that will do it, email me.

I already got some applications, but if you have spare time (10 minutes or so),
I think it would be interesting to try it. So it's up to you to decide.
 
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mike ring

I use K9 ( http://keir.net/k9.html ) for SPAM checking. It has a check
server option which will get all the headers. You can do that then
delete them all without downloading them.
I didn't realise that when I checked out K9 - did it always do that? I'm
quite thick enough not to have noticed, trying to cope with the rules and
all.

I'm trying it again (haven't even had spam yet), it's the reason I always
stuck with mailwasher, I hate to fetch all the bodies and then have all the
hassle of deteting them, (and some turn even this old stomach); I also will
not delete anything without inspecting it, as I'm waiting on several
million squid from Nigeria.

But K9 has the feel of goodness -solid, fast, YKWIM, so I'd like to keep
it, specially if it pre- marks most spam for deletion like mailwasher does
and keeps a blacklist

mike r
 

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