Canon CLI-8/PGI-5 resetter question

[TJ]

Do auto manufacturers give out specifications, or do they build a
product based on the specifications of the consumables on the market?


Did you know your warranty could have been voided if you used
aftermarket oil in your car? It's true. That's one thing that the
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act covered.

The whole concept is certainly nothing new. I don't have an auto
warranty handy, but the following quote is from the warranty of a J.I.
Case Model SC Tractor, model year 1941. However, It was written several
years before that, and is the standard warranty for all Case equipment
of that time.

6. The placing upon any Case machine or implement of any part,
attachment or equipment not manufactured or sold by J.I. Case Company
or authorized by it, shall operate to void and waive any warranty
whatsoever by J.I. Case Company.

The language sounds familiar, doesn't it? Now of course it pertains to
parts and attachments, but this was 70 or so years ago, before everybody
got clever. Just suppose Case developed a special cartridge to hold and
dispense the engine oil, and designed the engine so that oil could only
be added by changing this cartridge - which of course was only available
from authorized dealers.

That's what printer manufacturers are doing now, and the governments are
letting them get away with it.

TJ

 

[measekite]

Do auto manufacturers give out specifications, or do they build a
product based on the specifications of the consumables on the
market?

Did you know your warranty could have been voided if you used
aftermarket oil in your car? It's true. That's one thing that the
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act covered.

As for specifications, canon is required to by law to release MSDS,
which include a basic list of what is in the ink.

Glycerin 5-10%
Ethylene glycol 5-10%
Substituted naphthalene
sulfonic acid 1-3%
Heterocyclic compound 5-10 %
Water 60-80%

This is the ink base. No secrets, nothing all that complex. Matching
the viscosity is trial work for a company who makes inks. Color
matching, well, spectrum analyzers are common place. Boiling point?
Heat it, measure it when it boils. But making aftermarket ink is
rather trivial since the ink base is ****ing water.

But regardless, what evidence do you have that Canon designed the inks
for the printer? Why not the other way around? Don't get me wrong,
canon has made little changes in their ink in the past decade. You
would need the patents in order to justify your assertion. I'm not
saying you are wrong, I'm saying I don't know.

What is really nice is I make a short statement and then jerks write a
whole bunch of drivel.

ha ha ha ha

 

[IntergalacticExpandingPanda]

What is really nice is I make a short statement and then jerks write a
whole bunch of drivel.

ha ha ha ha

Well, it disproves your point. Canon uses a standard ink base, mostly
water. It's nothing unusual or patented. The dye is, but you can
obviously use different dye.

But you claim canon doesn't release the "specifications". They list
the damn ingredients.

 

[measekite]

Well, it disproves your point. Canon uses a standard ink base, mostly
water. It's nothing unusual or patented. The dye is, but you can
obviously use different dye.

But you claim canon doesn't release the "specifications". They list
the damn ingredients.

Good trade

2 lines for 5 lines.

Keep up the good work.

 

[IntergalacticExpandingPanda]

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I just received the Sudhaus chip re-setter and am confused by the
instructions for the CLI-8 cartridge. I bought it to keep in case one
of my OEM cartridges fails electronically. I do not plan on refilling
them .. just want them to function properly. The Sudhaus instructions
seem to imply that one needs to insert the cartridge twice.

No, just once. Insert cartridge until you see light blink, wait until
you get steady light, remove cartridge. Exit port should be at top of
slope. You can't reset if you have the orange caps in place.

 

[measekite]

No, just once. Insert cartridge until you see light blink, wait until
you get steady light, remove cartridge. Exit port should be at top of
slope. You can't reset if you have the orange caps in place.

Sounds like a waste of time.

 

[IntergalacticExpandingPanda]

Sounds like a waste of time.

It's faster than going to the store. Far faster than costco!

 

[measekite]

It's faster than going to the store. Far faster than costco!

That is foolish and you know that is not true.

www.costco.com

 

[IntergalacticExpandingPanda]

That is foolish and you know that is not true.

www.costco.com

Refilling a set of cartridges takes under 15min. I can't drive to
Costco in under 15min. Office depot would be faster, but that's like
an hour at best. Sorry, it's faster to refill with bulk ink.

 

[LF]

I bought mine herehttp://www.inkfilling.com/printer-ink-canon-resetter-cli8-pgi5.html

It looks like either Sudhaus's redsetter, or a clone of Sudhaus's
redsetter.

***
IGE Panda ...
Let the resetting begin.
Thanks for the suggestion. I purchased one today for <$27 delivered
(after my friend, google, gave me some coupon codes).

Best,
Larry

 

[IntergalacticExpandingPanda]

***
IGE Panda ...
 Let the resetting begin.
Thanks for the suggestion.  I purchased one today for <$27 delivered
(after my friend, google, gave me some coupon codes).

Great, keep in mind I don't have any connection to the place, other
than it happened to be the place I bought my resetter from. It's the
only item I've ever bought from them, so I can say nothing bad about
them, and the only thing good is I gave them money I got resetter.


It's totally screwless so it does rattle a tad, but it's a solid pc
board. The only thing of "some" concern is the switch is basically a
rod that goes to a leaver. This is one of those cases where you have
to wonder how reliable it is, but obviously it works.

 

[measekite]

Refilling a set of cartridges takes under 15min. I can't drive to
Costco in under 15min. Office depot would be faster, but that's like
an hour at best. Sorry, it's faster to refill with bulk ink.

Not true.

 

[measekite]

Great, keep in mind I don't have any connection to the place, other
than it happened to be the place I bought my resetter from. It's the
only item I've ever bought from them, so I can say nothing bad about
them, and the only thing good is I gave them money I got resetter.


It's totally screwless so it does rattle a tad, but it's a solid pc

Probably a piece of crap from China with the left over melamine.

board. The only thing of "some" concern is the switch is basically a
rod that goes to a leaver. This is one of those cases where you have

That is junk also.

 

[LF]

Panda Anon said:

Great, keep in mind I don't have any connection to the place ...<snip>

***
I reply,

IGE Panda anon,
Understood.
Thanks for your many positive and thoughtful anon. suggestions in this
group.

Best,
Larry

 

[Taliesyn]

It's faster than going to the store. Far faster than costco!

Faster and cheaper in the long, and most likely, short run too.

It takes but seconds to reset the chip with a resetter (five seconds to be
precise) and a couple of hours & many dollars spent and lost by choosing to
go to Costco, which by the way, doesn't even carry the cartridges the last
time I checked.

The resetter is not a waste of time but a "gift of time" - and money not
wasted replacing cartridges that are still half full but which the chip
monitoring system - suddenly exhibiting signs of Alzheimers - declares
a cartridge of its choice (both cyans on our two printers) lost and
confused: "Please replace me." ;-)

-Taliesyn

 

[shadoko]

Re: Canon CLI-8/PGI-5 resetter question

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