Aus. PC World: No good reason to upgrade to Vista

[dennis@home]

Also, I never had a problem with Windows until Vista came along. I
was content to pay a license fee and join the herd. But I'm not
willing to pay a license fee to lease an OS that must remain
permanently tethered to a license server,

Rubbish. more cr@p spread by linux users.

 

[Matt]

Which is exactly the Vista situation today. XP needed MUCH more
hardware than 98 - try running XP on a 300 MHz Pentium 2 with 64 megs RAM!

You describe hardware that was run-of-of-mill three years before XP came
out.

Vista wouldn't run well on hardware that was run-of-the-mill _at the
time_ Vista came out.

Now there are hundreds of thousands claiming they were deceived
regarding Vista's hardware requirements.

 

[dennis@home]

No, they prefer to pay for something that runs the apps/games they want to
run rather than use a "free OS" that does not run the apps/games they want
to run.

If Linux ever gets some compelling, MUST HAVE Linux-only apps/games that
Windows does not have, you might see a migration. Until then, Linux will
remain a geek toy.

If linux ever gets a compelling MUST HAVE application, someone will port it
to windows. Most of the good open source "linux" software has already been
ported to windows.

 

[dennis@home]

Bonjour/soir, le Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:38:48 +0100, *Hadron* a caressé son
clavier pour nous dire dans le message suivant:


Free and open source programs are making the same stuff than these
expensive programs

Where do I download my open source copy of bioshock or civ 4 then?
I really would like some free software.

 

[VistaMan]

We all know this guy lives in his parents basement and plays w/ linux. Just
because its free means just that...you get what you pay for. The general
consumer do not like the geekness of linux nor its ability to not run just
about every app people like to use daily. They dont want some P.O.S open
source app.

 

[Michel Doucet]

Bonjour/soir, le Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:33:03 -0700, *VistaMan* a caressé son
clavier pour nous dire dans le message suivant:

We all know this guy lives in his parents basement and plays w/ linux.
Just because its free means just that...you get what you pay for.

Of course when you pay you get something better !

 

[Michel Doucet]

Bonjour/soir, le Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:32:49 +0000, *dennis@home* a caressé
son clavier pour nous dire dans le message suivant:

Where do I download my open source copy of bioshock or civ 4 then? I
really would like some free software.

I never heard about these rubbish programs !

 

[DarkSentinel]

Sure. It works, or can be made to work, if you don't mind taking a huge
performance whack and putting up with some fluky behavior here and
there.

What performance whack? Things that I run that choked XP almost to a
standstill, runs extremely well. No fluky behavior, not one BSOD. It hasn't
even burped at anything I have thrown at it so far.

That's exactly what the article I am quoting from has concluded. They
don't say Vista is impossible to use, just that it's not worth it.

But you have to remember that these articles are the opinion of the writers.
They can skew things to appear any way they please. I can do an XP sucks
post on my blog, twist a few numbers here and there, but that doesn't make
it true does it?

Of course not. No one keeps such statistics at a macro level. It's all
anecdotal, but there are a lot of anecdotes floating around. And there
are a lot of XP users who aren't planning to "upgrade" to Vista, now or
anytime.

I hadn't planned to upgrade either, but the Acer I got shipped with it. I'm
now glad it did. Yes there are a few things I dislike in it. I can say the
same about any OS I ever used. Bottom line is for me, this is the most
stable OS I used to date. I have none of the problems reported here. It just
works.

 

[DarkSentinel]

Bonjour/soir, le Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:38:48 +0100, *Hadron* a caressé son
clavier pour nous dire dans le message suivant:


Free and open source programs are making the same stuff than these
expensive programs

Name them. Blender is the only thing that comes close to Bryce. There is no
alternative for Poser. Open Office is not even close to ANY of the Windows
offerings. So which programs are you talking about exactly?

 

[DarkSentinel]

Bonjour/soir, le Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:59:00 +0100, *Hadron* a caressé son
clavier pour nous dire dans le message suivant:


I'm telling the truth !

No, you are not.

 

[dennis@home]

Bonjour/soir, le Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:32:49 +0000, *dennis@home* a caressé
son clavier pour nous dire dans le message suivant:


I never heard about these rubbish programs !

So stop telling everyone that linux is the better solution when it plainly
isn't. It maybe for some users but its *useless* for others. You may as well
recommend a toaster if linux doesn't run the software the user wants.

 

[smbdymf]

Michel Doucet a écrit :
Vous n'en avez pas marre de prendre les gens pour des cons monsieur le
trolleur international bouffi de suffisance ?

I can't read fwench but I think you said that you are a troll, you cross
posting piece of sh*t.

 

[smbdymf]

Bonjour/soir, le Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:09:42 -0400, *Bob Campbell* a caressé
son clavier pour nous dire dans le message suivant:


People are really idiot ... they prefer to pay an OS which is bad rather
than using a free OS that works !

Wow, you're English is really bad. You should go the fwench newsgroups so
all the frogs there can understand you. You cross posting piece of sh*t.

 

[smbdymf]

Bonjour/soir, le Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:02:57 +0000, *AZ Nomad* a caressé son
clavier pour nous dire dans le message suivant:


For sure

ribbit

 

[Michel Doucet]

Bonjour/soir, le Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:04:23 -0700, *DarkSentinel* a caressé
son clavier pour nous dire dans le message suivant:

Open Office is not even close to ANY of the Windows offerings.

Of course it's not close it's far away ahead and open source and free

 

[DarkSentinel]

Bonjour/soir, le Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:04:23 -0700, *DarkSentinel* a caressé
son clavier pour nous dire dans le message suivant:


Of course it's not close it's far away ahead and open source and free

And on what planet would that be? As said, being free, you get what you pay
for, it's not even close. So keep on dreaming there.

 

[Moshe Goldfarb]

You mean snip the evidence you and your kind are perpetual whining idiots
who bleat the same stupid song with each new version of Windows:

"Windows <version> is a disaster!"
"MS is dying!"
"MS is doomed!"
"MS is dead!"
"Nobody is buying Windows <version>!"

Repeat ad nauseum for 10 years. Meanwhile Windows maintains 90%+ desktop,
and Linux stays below 1%.

You wacks need to change your tune (or learn how to write better software).

Isn't 2008 supposed to be the year of Linux?

 

[Lang Murphy]

You may quibble as you see fit. The larger point the authors are making
is that Vista doesn't deliver benefits that justify the cost of buying a
new OS and deploying it across an enterprise. Microsoft's strategy for
Vista has been to market it to consumers as eye candy and hope that
businesses fall in line. This has led to a lot of resentment.

Charlie

Well, I guess we'll continue to agree to disagree... Vista's improved (no,
not perfect, no such thing...) security, improved memory management, and the
"mainly discoupled from the CPU" video support are reason enough for me to
take the plunge. I've never had any of the boxes I'm running Vista on blue
screen. Not once.

And as to "eye candy..." I'm not all that interested in it... I like Aero's
translucent window borders, but don't use the Flip-3D thing at all. Both OS
X and Linux have their own eye candy... (Some nix fans have gone bonkers
over some nix video thang that has a 3D virtual desktop UI... yawn...)

As to ROI on deploying Vista across an Enterprise system... well, that's up
to the Enterprise. Some have apps that may not work in Vista. Well, yah,
they won't want to deploy Vista in that case. Some have old HW that won't
support Vista... another, well, yah, no brainer. And... I guess it depends
on how large an Enterprise. Some of the larger MS customers may be getting
"real good deals" from MS, cost-wise, to upgrade to Vista. That's outta my
purview, though...

To claim that any Vista article, pro or con, "...will..." prove -anything-
about Vista, and to post links to same article in this NG, is just, well...
I don't subscribe to posting links to news stories... like I said, pro or
con... just my personal opinion...

Lang

 

[Denis Levesque]

Hi Lang

Maybe but you don't have a choice

bye

Denis